Last time Tennessee was a powerhouse for the National Title.

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WesternKyVol said:
Why are you posting one of the top 2 worst losses in UT history? (1940 Rose)
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Why is the Rose Bowl Tennessee's worst loss?

Too late to win the AP Poll, and I'm not sure one of the other selectors at the time chose after the bowl games or if they would have selected Tennessee. Either way, I'm not even sure we sent our full team.
 
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olerusty22 said:
The thing about that earlier season game was that on two of those long catches the safety and corner both bit on the throws. Years after the CCG Fulmer admitted they were looking ahead to Miami. But, for the life of me how can you take the starting quarterback AND starting runningback out of the game and still get hammered? That was the begining of the end of the dominating era of Tennessee Football.
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We couldn't tackle the backup QB Matt Mauck. He looked like Vince Young running through us. They just gave him the ball and let him create plays.

Sigh. :sad:
 
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tvolsfan said:
Why is the Rose Bowl Tennessee's worst loss?

Too late to win the AP Poll, and I'm not sure one of the other selectors at the time chose after the bowl games or if they would have selected Tennessee. Either way, I'm not even sure we sent our full team.
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We lost because we had the best player in America (George Cafego, who was the No. 1 NFL draft pick a few months later), and he was hurt and played just one minute of the Rose Bowl. Taking Cafego away from our team was like taking Cam Newton away from the 2010 Auburn team.

USC was as good as anybody year-in and year-out, anyway. In the '39 Rose Bowl, the Trojans upset a Duke team that had done the exact same thing, gone unbeaten and unscored-upon during an entire regular season. And we can't complain. The fact that they did that made Tennessee the 1938 national champion in a majority of the selection services.

That LSU game was only bad because the program never seemed to quite recover from it. If we had won, we would have been beaten soundly by Miami and finished ranked in the same spot we did anyway, albeit with an SEC championship trophy. It hurt because Fulmer didn't learn anything from it and make changes to his coaching staff.
 
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jsc1973 said:
We lost because we had the best player in America (George Cafego, who was the No. 1 NFL draft pick a few months later), and he was hurt and played just one minute of the Rose Bowl. Taking Cafego away from our team was like taking Cam Newton away from the 2010 Auburn team.

USC was as good as anybody year-in and year-out, anyway. In the '39 Rose Bowl, the Trojans upset a Duke team that had done the exact same thing, gone unbeaten and unscored-upon during an entire regular season. And we can't complain. The fact that they did that made Tennessee the 1938 national champion in a majority of the selection services.

That LSU game was only bad because the program never seemed to quite recover from it. If we had won, we would have been beaten soundly by Miami and finished ranked in the same spot we did anyway, albeit with an SEC championship trophy. It hurt because Fulmer didn't learn anything from it and make changes to his coaching staff.
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Sanders was never ready and shouldn't have been promoted. Larry Slade never should have been hired. Front seven would get us to 3rd and 7 and then Willie Miles or Teddy Gaines or Gerald Griffin would give up 10 yards on 3rd down. 99 thru 01 we had SEC titile front sevens and no secondary. Jimmy Ray Stephens was a joke. Pat Washington started good but stayed too long and produced nothing the last couple years. Don't know what was up with McCorvey either. Certainly wasn't NFL backs. Bad staff decisions doomed Fulmer's tenure and legacy. He has to have the best record and most accomplishments for a coach that is hated and ridculed by his own people.
 
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PimpVol said:
Sanders was never ready and shouldn't have been promoted. Larry Slade never should have been hired. Bad staff decisions doomed Fulmer's tenure and legacy.
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you can say that again.

but time heals all wounds, and people will rebound on CPF eventually. look at how johnny majors and casey clausen are faring these days.
 
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Sanders was not ready. The only reason his play calling worked in the fiesta bowl was because other teams were like WTF did he just call? This Be Stupid!
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
Sanders was not ready. The only reason his play calling worked in the fiesta bowl was because other teams were like WTF did he just call? This Be Stupid!
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Now, that was funny! But what really happened was Phil let Sanders call the plays in the NC game because if we lost he had a fall guy. The rest of Sanders tenure was awful because Phil wouldn't let him be a true coordinator and call the plays he wanted. That was alright with Foolmer though because Sanders got the heat! All of the worst plays called during that era was Foolmers starting with the Jamual Lewis sweep in the 99 Florida game.
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DjCrenshaw said:
Sanders was not ready. The only reason his play calling worked in the fiesta bowl was because other teams were like WTF did he just call? This Be Stupid!
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The problem was not play-caling under Sanders, it was stupidity and ineptitude, lack of focus and lack of pride. IMO Sanders was a better play-caller than Cutcliffe and did an EXCELLENT job in the Championship game. FSU had a good defense.
 
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Not all was lost.

The previous week, Fulmer beat Spurrier in his last game in the Swamp and knocked Florida out of the BCS NC game.
 
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olerusty22 said:
The thing about that earlier season game was that on two of those long catches the safety and corner both bit on the throws. Years after the CCG Fulmer admitted they were looking ahead to Miami. But, for the life of me how can you take the starting quarterback AND starting runningback out of the game and still get hammered? That was the begining of the end of the dominating era of Tennessee Football.
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When the backups are more talented than the starters. Both "backups" rotated in all year for LSU.
 
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81Bubbavol said:
I remember another time we knocked out AL's starting tailback early in one game @ Neyland, and some backup named Siran Stacy came in and lit us up for over 200 yards. We lost that one too.

Sorry to add insult to injury.
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I remember when we had a backup RB in ourselves for most of a season; oh yeah, that was Travis Henry, and we won a national title that year.
 
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olerusty22 said:
Don't you guys remember 2005?
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Based on the 2004 Cotton Bowl, Rick Clausen should have started at Qb and Ainge should have redshirted in 2005. Fulmer wanted Ainge cuz it looked like he should be an all SEC QB for the next 3 years. Wrong. Did not work and did not study. Death nells for a Qb to be sure. Sanders wanted Clausen to start and let Ainge come on when he proved he was ready. Did not happen that way. It was a cheap win for Florida, they only scored 16 points that game. Should have been a SEC title team that year. Hindsight is easy though. :rock::rock:
 
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81Bubbavol said:
We couldn't tackle the backup QB Matt Mauck. He looked like Vince Young running through us. They just gave him the ball and let him create plays.

Sigh. :sad:
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That's my point! The running back did damage too.
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VegasVol said:
When the backups are more talented than the starters. Both "backups" rotated in all year for LSU.
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Toefield was excellent that year and Mauck was young and extremely limited at that point. Dominique Davis didn't have that many carries that year. Mauck wasn't "rotating" in either. He played in one other game when Davey got hurt which was a loss. He also came in for the closing minutes of the Kentucky game.
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