Last Play - UT Defense

#51
#51
The last play is all on the coaching staff, but I wonder how a safety with Abernathy's experience can take such a bad angle and get beat that bad.
 
#52
#52
Fijivol72 said:
The last play is all on the coaching staff, but I wonder how a safety with Abernathy's experience can take such a bad angle and get beat that bad.
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Especially with only one guy threatening his area of the field. It's unconscionable to let a guy behind the defense in that situation... and we've done it twice in the past 8 games or so. We've had the absolute worst secondary play I can ever remember the past few years.
 
#53
#53
GAVol said:
Please people.

You can't play an out and out prevent there as if it's a Hail mary. They were 20 yards from a FG attempt. They had to cover the intermediate stuff. They were trying to complete a pass and then kick it. The bomb was an afterthought that just happened to work because of a bust.
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THIS!

If you live by the sword, be prepared to die by the sword. I'm pretty sure FL was hoping for 20-30 yard completion near the sideline for a field goal attempt. The winning pass was a last second desperation that, unfortunately, worked out for the Gators...just like our Hail Mary last year versus GA worked out for us. A pure prevent formation could have allowed that FG attempt easily, and they have a heck of a kicker. Granted, Once the play broke down, our safeties should have been deep and never let the receivers behind them, but when the QB started scrambling, all bets are off. It sucks, and it hurts, but it's football.
 
#54
#54
Why are people saying we should have had everyone on the goal line? They only needed like 25 yards for a FG attempt and still had a TO.
 
#56
#56
Was Micah Abernathy the same person last year that got beat the exact same way at the end of the Georgia game before we threw the Hail Mary?
 
#57
#57
Shouldnt we have called TO and gone over the acenario with our db's? We did have to worry about an intermediate throw but once the play was a scramble and no time is left, we only had to keep them from getting in endzone. Not sure if our staff is that "game aware" in these type of situations. We've seen this movie before.
 
#59
#59
I kind of think it's player error more than play call error. You have to defend the lone receiver in the end zone. Abernathy froze and game over. It's called blowing it.
 
#60
#60
Cover 2 doesnt protect the outside. All you have to is run a smash concept and you have a corner route all day
 
#61
#61
GAVol said:
Please people.

You can't play an out and out prevent there as if it's a Hail mary. They were 20 yards from a FG attempt. They had to cover the intermediate stuff. They were trying to complete a pass and then kick it. The bomb was an afterthought that just happened to work because of a bust.
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Agreed. Its a crap sandwich... But you're right.

It just worked out for Florida. Again.
 
#62
#62
madbamahater said:
Butch Jones literally corrected or argued the fact that they were in nickel not dime on last play. Reporter said they were in dime and butch said no we were in nickel. We don't have a dime because of injuries.

He's missing the whole ****ing point and this proves he's in over his head and literally doesn't know what he's doing.

The point is why were you in ANY defensive set other than a prevent were you literally have everyone back near the 10 yard line and endzone.

THIS DUDE LITERALLY JUST DOESN'T GET IT
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Shoop told us he would not play prevent, thats actually the defense that lost the UF game in 2015. Just saying, sometimes the play call doesn't matter. If Abernathy doesn't realize he can't get beat deep its on him as a safety.
 
#63
#63
jonnon111 said:
Shoop told us he would not play prevent, thats actually the defense that lost the UF game in 2015. Just saying, sometimes the play call doesn't matter. If Abernathy doesn't realize he can't get beat deep its on him as a safety.
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Abernathy stays inside. Cleveland cuts out and no ones there. I can see why he mightve done what he did
 
#64
#64
GAVol said:
Yeah...Those are the same people that think every pass under 5 yards is a screen and all running plays are the same. :)

Butch screwed up a lot tonight, but the last play was just a bust after the play broke down.
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Call it what you want, cover 2 is the dumbest **** ever.
 
#65
#65
What's hard for me to swallow is knowing that the Vols have been at least by two touchdowns the better team for the last several years. Maybe the Florida coach was right when he said two years ago, "Florida just doesn't lose to Tennessee".
 
#66
#66
It was a tie game they were not going for the hail Mary 60 yards out. The play was to set up a fg opportunity... And call timeout.

No way you play deep.

The result of the play had nothing to do with defense called.
 
#67
#67
jakez4ut said:
It was a tie game they were not going for the hail Mary 60 yards out. The okay was to set up a fg opportunity... And call timeout.

No way you play deep.

The result of the play had nothing to do with defense called.
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What are you talking about? They needed to go 30 yards to get into FG range and they only had 9 seconds. You play man under and 2 deep or you play cover 3 and you tell the safeties under no circumstances does anybody get deeper than you.
 
#68
#68
BOB in GA said:
THIS!

If you live by the sword, be prepared to die by the sword. I'm pretty sure FL was hoping for 20-30 yard completion near the sideline for a field goal attempt. The winning pass was a last second desperation that, unfortunately, worked out for the Gators...just like our Hail Mary last year versus GA worked out for us. A pure prevent formation could have allowed that FG attempt easily, and they have a heck of a kicker. Granted, Once the play broke down, our safeties should have been deep and never let the receivers behind them, but when the QB started scrambling, all bets are off. It sucks, and it hurts, but it's football.
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Well there is a happy medium on this. There is no excuse to be in base defense in that situation. You have to get 6 dbs on the field run a cover 4, and keep it underneath you. They needed 20 yards in 9 seconds to just have a chance at a 60 yard field goal. Abernathy screwed up, but why in the hell would you be in a cover 2 in that situation. Your even more likely to give up a 20 yard pass in that defense. Our lbs are playing 5 yards off the ball. We have a safety at 10 yards off, and a corner 4 yards off the ball. Same thing happened at uga last year and we got lucky.
 
#69
#69
n_huffhines said:
What are you talking about? They needed to go 30 yards to get into FG range and they only had 9 seconds. You play man under and 2 deep or you play cover 3 and you tell the safeties under no circumstances does anybody get deeper than you.
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Isnt that exactly what they did.... play 2 deep?
 
#71
#71
BigOrange04 said:
Well there is a happy medium on this. There is no excuse to be in base defense in that situation. You have to get 6 dbs on the field run a cover 4, and keep it underneath you. They needed 20 yards in 9 seconds to just have a chance at a 60 yard field goal. Abernathy screwed up, but why in the hell would you be in a cover 2 in that situation. Your even more likely to give up a 20 yard pass in that defense. Our lbs are playing 5 yards off the ball. We have a safety at 10 yards off, and a corner 4 yards off the ball. Same thing happened at uga last year and we got lucky.
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I agree with you about the alignment. It was a little odd to have LBs up there, but I think it was more a product of being limited in what they could call with so many DBs hurt.
 
#73
#73
GAVol said:
Isnt that exactly what they did.... play 2 deep?
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Cover 2 - safety is on his own to cover a deep half of the field

2 deep man under - corner stays with WR and the safety watches the QB and stays deep in his half.
 
#74
#74
Fijivol72 said:
The last play is all on the coaching staff, but I wonder how a safety with Abernathy's experience can take such a bad angle and get beat that bad.
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The defensive alignment was not the problem; the DB's blew it! Abernathy turned toward his right shoulder when the trajectory of the ball was to his left; there was no way to correct his angle.
 
#75
#75
Should have never come down to that play. Bad clock management and offensive scheme on two separate red zone trips and third and inches a separate time doomed this game.

Defense played well enough to win. Offense played well enough to win. Offensive play calling was the worst I have seen aince Pete Carroll in the super bowl.

You have a guy finish with almost 150 yards rushing, is arguably one of the best SEC RBs this year, and he got zero touches in goal to go or inches to go the entire game???!?

Last play of the game was just a symptom of a much bigger disease.
 
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