Larry Scott = Tee Martin?

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Tidal Surge said:
Maybe I'm just missing your point, but your statement doesn't make sense to me.

There's so much more to coaching the QB position than developing and practicing QB footwork, throwing mechanics, timing, etc.

Knowing the playbook inside out is huge.

A college QB has to know not only his own role in the play, but also everyone else's. He has to also be able to read pass rush/blitz and pass coverage schemes (pre & post-snap) and call blocking schemes, route trees, progression adjustments, hot routes, play checkoffs, etc. accordingly.

Canales and his QBs have to not only know UT's playbook like the back of their hand, they also to apply it in live games vs various opposing defensive schemes and tendencies.

Fortunately, Canales is a veteran offensive coach with a wealth of knowledge and experience far beyond just coaching QB fundamentals and practice drills.
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If you cannot discern the message regarding him not playing calls then I don't know what to tell you. The guy has been a position coach for 20+ years. He may be a great QB coach, but he hasn't shown he's a very good OC
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
If you cannot discern the message regarding him not playing calls then I don't know what to tell you. The guy has been a position coach for 20+ years. He may be a great QB coach, but he hasn't shown he's a very good OC
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He responded to a post about game planning by committee. But his response said Canales should not go anywhere near the play book.

A game plan and play book are two different things. A game plan is the plan of what optional plays (from your play book) you want to call in various situations in a specific game. The playbook is the catalog of your plays, with the Xs&Os diagrams.

It's typical for the HC and offesive stsff to participate in some game planning meetings, but the OC typically "writes" the plan.

Sometimes during games, the eyes in the booth, or the HC will offer their thoughts about what play to call, but generally the OC calls the plays.
 
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Burger said:
Lame. Has Scott ever called plays before?
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He has in high school. However he has never gotten the opportunity to do so in College. BUT from everything I've read, heard, and seen he has had his hands MAJORLY in BOTH Miami's and UT's offensive game plans and play books. He was Co-OC at Miami. Literally did EVERYTHING but call the plays. I'm happy to give him a shot.
 
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Burger said:
Lame. Has Scott ever called plays before?
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People always forget such obvious things...EVERY single guy that's a OC now was never a OC until given their 1st OC opportunity.

Some learn fast and do well and others never learn and fail miserably.

The same can be said about a DC or a Head coach or any other coaching position that they've never held before in their coaching career.

There's exactly NOBODY that knows for a fact how this will turn out over the next year or 3 but 1 thing we do know, CLS has been coaching for several years, he's a smart coach and a very good recruiter and he's worked hard and earned his opportunity to prove what he can do.

Promoting from within is also a good thing because it makes hot up and coming coaches want to come to Tennessee to learn and work their way up and ALL coaches always want to learn and work their way up.

1 thing I'm optomistic about is that a bad Head Coach has a hard time firing his friends and will go down with the ship.

buTch has fired some of his best friends that have been with him several years in order to try to make his coaching staff and our footVol Team improve and get better and that's a solid positive in my opinion.

VFL...GBO!!
 
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musolfmj said:
Freak, could we please have a DOUBLE SECRET IGNORE button. I have guys like Dudley 87 on the current regular ignore, but then people quote them and I have to read what they said anyway.

Oh, I don't have to read what they said anyway? Show some inner strength? If I had that I wouldn't have put them on ignore in the first place. It's a real quandary.
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:lolabove:funny:good!:
 
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Scott may be a guy who was never given the chance to be an OC because he doesn't play politics well enough. Could be a diamond in the rough.

He also may be a guy who was never given the chance to be an OC because his previous bosses (or other programs with openings) didn't think he had what it takes based on evidence. Could be in over his head.

We will see. Boom or bust, Butch either going to nail this and keep his job or it will blow up and he will be back in the AAC.
 
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Using the Tee Martin logic means we can't overreact if the offense doesn't look so hot the first few games........agreed?
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Think about it. Tee had never called a play before he took over OC duties at USC and look at how successful he was in his first year. I'm not shouting hooray at the Larry Scott hire, but he could end up being our Tee Martin.
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I think it is incredibly reasonable to believe that Larry Scott will be just as good if not better than Tee Martin the traitor.
 
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allvol17 said:
Most of those 48 years they only played 10 regular season games (or less) a season, so we should be winning 80% of our games.

So in a 12 game season we should be winning 9.6 games a year on average.

So the norm should be 10 win seasons most years.
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His numbers are a couple of games off. Go do the math instead of regaling everyone with expectations of vast improvement over the norm.
 
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dbarker said:
He has in high school. However he has never gotten the opportunity to do so in College. BUT from everything I've read, heard, and seen he has had his hands MAJORLY in BOTH Miami's and UT's offensive game plans and play books. He was Co-OC at Miami. Literally did EVERYTHING but call the plays. I'm happy to give him a shot.
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So he's drove go karts when he was little, is great at racing games on XBox, and his dad has let him sit in his lap and drive. Yep, he's ready to drive NASCAR at Daytona next month
 
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allvol17 said:
Most of those 48 years they only played 10 regular season games (or less) a season, so we should be winning 80% of our games.

So in a 12 game season we should be winning 9.6 games a year on average.

So the norm should be 10 win seasons most years.
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This is just completely false.
The majority of our seasons are .750% which equates to 8 out of 12 games. The most mind-boggling thing is, this isn't a mathematical error. They already have the percentages on our win last.
 
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This is a great hire..trust me what the hell else we got to lose..im a cane fan also i love how he turned that program around..trust me the guy know's what he is doing..every oc had to start from somewhere..just let him do his job..give him a chance
 
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How would fans feel if after the 2017 season that a USC lead Tee offense finished in the Top 5 and UT hired Tee Martin as the next UT HC? Would fans feel it's too soon to give Tee this job, or be happy?

Tee Martin may very well be our next head coach at UT. Two more good seasons at USC, plus two more average to bad seasons for Butch, and you never know.
 
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