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I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Wrong
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Actually, not having a big buyout on Kiffin was the mistake, not Kiffin himself. Second, panicking and hiring Dooley so quick to try and save a few recruits was the biggest mistake. Should have slowed down and made a solid hire instead of panicking.
 
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Firing a legend, NC winning coach THE WEEK OF HOMECOMING and Lane Kiffin was your big "step forward" plan was the beginning of the end.

Lane is fine now. The original firing of Fulmer/hiring a nobody was the problem.
 
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The downhill spiral started under Phil. We couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Kiffin was a great hire. Dooley and Butch were not. There’s lots of blame to go around.
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Actually it started when Phil got complacent, stopped recruiting, hired Clawson, and started looking bad on a national stage. Then Mike Hamilton wrote the worst contract of all time, and panicked and hired Derek Dooley after that. Kiffin didn't destroy this program. Cut leaving and Clawson being hired did.
 
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He left for his dream job, can’t blame him for that. He has learned and grown up since. Just take a scroll through his twitter and if you wouldn’t want that kind of cockiness running our program you are crazy. Recruits will eat that up not to mention he can flat out coach. Find a solid DC and we are rising to the top fast. Much better option than all of these other retreads, unknowns, or coaches with no HC experience. Give me him Leach all day baby.
 
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fatvol said:
Firing a legend, NC winning coach THE WEEK OF HOMECOMING and Lane Kiffin was your big "step forward" plan was the beginning of the end.

Lane is fine now. The original firing of Fulmer/hiring a nobody was the problem.
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Yep
 
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dbr25 said:
Actually, not having a big buyout on Kiffin was the mistake, not Kiffin himself. Second, panicking and hiring Dooley so quick to try and save a few recruits was the biggest mistake. Should have slowed down and made a solid hire instead of panicking.
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This.
 
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Stupid to blame Lane. He did ok while he was here (7-6?). Had a great recruiting class - but they left or jailed a year later.
Hindsight, the admin should have given keys to Kippy after Lane bolted (again no surprise since he had told Hamilton he would go to USC if offered - no one thought it would come open a year later). Kippy could have held recruiting class together and prolly have done alright as coach, but buys us a year to figure it out and decide the next step instead of panic hiring Dooley.

Horrible ADs since Doug Dickey and Bob Woodruff have dug this hole. I wish Currie would lay down the shovel for a minute.
 
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We’re hiring a football coach, not a preacher or mail-order bride. Let him come coach and p!ss off the rest of the SEC. if he p!sses on our leg again, it will wash off. If he doesn’t it could be something special.
The man can coach offense and the man can recruit.
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Nice try junior, but you are totally wrong. As seen in this search, the coach isn't the problem, they come and go. Look a little higher on the totem poll. That's where the problem is. But nice try.
 
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fatvol said:
Firing a legend, NC winning coach THE WEEK OF HOMECOMING and Lane Kiffin was your big "step forward" plan was the beginning of the end.

Lane is fine now. The original firing of Fulmer/hiring a nobody was the problem.
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Fulmer was done, the program was going nowhere but down and he was leading the way.
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.
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Let me tell you why that’s BS....

1. Kiffin inherited Fulmers guys. And even though it was his first and only season did two things both Dooley and butch did not: Nearly defeat Alabama, and reach Bowl eligibility. Once again, both done year one.

2. Dooley had zero recruiting success. There is a reason former players call him “Derek-Dolittle”. Nobody wanted to play for him, and he barely even tried to recruit at all.

3. Butch did not evolve his offensive scheme, making it highly predictable. This resulted in numerous line collapses, offense injuries, and some of the worst QB stats in school history.

You don’t have to like Kiffin. But you should get your facts straight. Just openly say you’re mad about him leaving abruptly and that’s why you don’t want him. He’s not responsible for any of the garbage we’ve dealt with in terms of crappy players and bad admin choices.
 
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Kiffin has not succeed anywhere. That is why he is at FAU. He has his "dream job" for what three years. How did that work out? Not much of a dream. Al Davis said it and it happened. Kiffin destroyed the program. Fulmer was in the SECCG the year before he was fired. That is not a downward spiral. That is as good as it has been, and Sumlin sure has not been in the SECCG.
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Boy, you are reaching deep on this one. So one coach who was here one year caused all this? About as ridiculous a statement as i have heard. This is about one bad decision after another, and an admin that is more concerned with being in power than trying to win.
 
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volme said:
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Give me facts why. He left in January, a time when it was impossible to do a coaching search. Then he and his cronies called the recruits and told them to come to USC instead (the good ones) and told the EE not to go to class, Juwaun James to be exact.
 
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VOLED said:
Boy, you are reaching deep on this one. So one coach who was here one year caused all this? About as ridiculous a statement as i have heard. This is about one bad decision after another, and an admin that is more concerned with being in power than trying to win.
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Correct, one bad decision after another that HAD to be made because of WHO?

You just proved my point. Lane started this. THAT isn’t debatable.
 
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secking said:
I have one question, you do realize that the reason Tn is where it is today is because of Kiffin, right? No Kiffin, no Dooley and no Butch. HE is the reason Tn is under .500 since Lane stepped foot on campus.

Don’t blame Hart, Dooley, Butch, Hamilton, or Currie.

One man caused this. He’s not been anywhere longer than 3 years and has been fired at every job, in 3 or less years.

Are you mad today? And you want to start the next decade the same way this one started? You sure?
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Pride can be a terrible thing. So, let the man come back and fix "his" mess. Stop holding grudges. Everybody wants to win. Sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit.
 
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anthorain said:
Let me tell you why that’s BS....

1. Kiffin inherited Fulmers guys. And even though it was his first and only season did two things both Dooley and butch did not: Nearly defeat Alabama, and reach Bowl eligibility. Once again, both done year one.

2. Dooley had zero recruiting success. There is a reason former players call him “Derek-Dolittle”. Nobody wanted to play for him, and he barely even tried to recruit at all.

3. Butch did not evolve his offensive scheme, making it highly predictable. This resulted in numerous line collapses, offense injuries, and some of the worst QB stats in school history.

You don’t have to like Kiffin. But you should get your facts straight. Just openly say you’re mad about him leaving abruptly and that’s why you don’t want him. He’s not responsible for any of the garbage we’ve dealt with in terms of crappy players and bad admin choices.
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First, he did inherit Fulmers guys, same guys that were in the SECCG two years earlier.

2 and 3 don’t even happen if no Lane, that isn’t hard to understand.
 
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