Lane Kiffin's Hiring....The Process Revealed.

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orangeblooded2 said:
This is a lengthy article about the In's and outs of what we spent a lot of time trying to find out about.
For me it answers a lot of the questions that I spent untold hours reading the threads searching for.




Rocky Sucession: Kiffin's Clandestine Hiring, Fulmer's Heartache -- NCAA Football FanHouse
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I was just coming here to post this. Troy Calhoun would have been our coach if it didn't work out with Kiffin. It's also interesting that Kiffin did reach out to Fulmer, but has gotten no response.
 
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cwil74` said:
I was just coming here to post this. Troy Calhoun would have been our coach if it didn't work out with Kiffin. It's also interesting that Kiffin did reach out to Fulmer, but has gotten no response.
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I really believe that Fulmer thought the 1998 NC made him untouchable.
 
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When asked which coaches he interviewed for Fulmer's job, Hamilton refuses to give a single name other than Lane Kiffin. But through a variety of other sources, I have pieced together a list that I believe to be accurate. I believe Hamilton met in person with Troy Calhoun of Air Force, Turner Gill of Buffalo, Brian Kelly of Cincinnati, Gary Patterson of TCU, and conducted an interview over the phone with Mike Leach from Texas Tech. Hamilton was also scheduled to meet with Will Muschamp of Texas, but Muschamp signed a coach-in-waiting deal four days before his face-to-face interview with Hamilton. Per sources, Troy Calhoun of Air Force was the number two choice.



Tomorrow on March 10, 2009, Tennessee begins spring football practice with a new coach, Lane Kiffin. I ask Fulmer what he thinks of being replaced by Kiffin. "Well, that's not my place to make a judgment, I don't know him. And I don't know, you know, the guy won five games? I'd won 150." Fulmer laughs, shakes his head, and repeats, "it's not my place."


Asked whether he has an opinion of Kiffin's public comments about Urban Meyer and the Florida Gators cheating and other SEC controversies he's stirred up since his hiring, Fulmer abruptly stands and strides across the room, ponderous footfalls echoing on the hardwood floors. For a moment I believe he's leaving, cutting our interview short. The door opens behind me, the bathroom door. "I don't know him, and I don't really care to comment on any of that and I don't know what context it came out of." He pauses at the bathroom door for a moment, contemplates silence then speaks anew, "It's either immaturity at the very least or poor judgment at the very worst."




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VERY interesting article. :good!:

Hamilton has chosen to drive in a car because he knows that in the age of internet message boards, zealous fans track the plane travel of everyone associated with UT football and eagerly dissect their movements online. Already Volquest (the Rivals UT message board) has reached a fever pitch over the significance of several University of Tennessee plane trips to locations near rumored coaching candidates. But Mike Hamilton would never fly the UT planes, he's aware of the online flight-trackers.
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Good thing we didn't do that here. :ermm:
 
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Asked what his expectations were entering the season, he says, "I think there's no reason that you don't win eight or nine of those ballgames. That's the truth. Auburn's a crappy team that year, we just happened to play crappy. UCLA, I mean we score going in (when Arian Foster fumbled with the Vols leading 14-7) and it may have been 35-7, they'd probably quit or something. Wyoming? I mean that was a joke. My team was drained, it was unbelievably difficult just getting them out there."

I am pro Fulmer don't get me wrong, but sounds like excuses. We just happened to play crappy, they would have probably quit, etc. Don't think you would hear Kiffen take that angle.
 
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lawgator1 said:
When asked which coaches he interviewed for Fulmer's job, Hamilton refuses to give a single name other than Lane Kiffin. But through a variety of other sources, I have pieced together a list that I believe to be accurate. I believe Hamilton met in person with Troy Calhoun of Air Force, Turner Gill of Buffalo, Brian Kelly of Cincinnati, Gary Patterson of TCU, and conducted an interview over the phone with Mike Leach from Texas Tech. Hamilton was also scheduled to meet with Will Muschamp of Texas, but Muschamp signed a coach-in-waiting deal four days before his face-to-face interview with Hamilton. Per sources, Troy Calhoun of Air Force was the number two choice.



Tomorrow on March 10, 2009, Tennessee begins spring football practice with a new coach, Lane Kiffin. I ask Fulmer what he thinks of being replaced by Kiffin. "Well, that's not my place to make a judgment, I don't know him. And I don't know, you know, the guy won five games? I'd won 150." Fulmer laughs, shakes his head, and repeats, "it's not my place."


Asked whether he has an opinion of Kiffin's public comments about Urban Meyer and the Florida Gators cheating and other SEC controversies he's stirred up since his hiring, Fulmer abruptly stands and strides across the room, ponderous footfalls echoing on the hardwood floors. For a moment I believe he's leaving, cutting our interview short. The door opens behind me, the bathroom door. "I don't know him, and I don't really care to comment on any of that and I don't know what context it came out of." He pauses at the bathroom door for a moment, contemplates silence then speaks anew, "It's either immaturity at the very least or poor judgment at the very worst."




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Laughable that Fulmer calls Kiffin immature. Fulmer's whole career smells of immaturity. Not to mention Fulmer not reaching out to Kiffin after Kiffin made an attempt to reach out to him.
 
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"I liked Coach Dickey being there because I knew what was expected and so on, what he expected of me," Fulmer will say later. "He didn't mind one bit coming over there and having a conversation about football or the team or anything. I don't know that I ever didn't trust Mike ... necessarily. He was just different. Much more corporate, much more. Having not played ever, it would be very difficult for him to understand our world, having been from the development world where you stroke the boosters rather than Coach Dickey being a coach. He (Coach Dickey) understood those problems and how to make a stand and how to be tough, if you needed to be tough."
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This is contemptible. What a bitter old POS Fulmer devolved into.
 
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The man is bitter. If indeed CLK has extended his hand and CPF has yet to at least shake it, well...............CLK did nothing to him. Be pissed at Hamilton if that makes you sleep better at night, but come on. Which one was CPF referring to as being immature? The person that stares back at him in the mirror?
 
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Fabulous read. I thought the he's won 5 games I've won 150 comment by Fulmer was ironic. I wonder what the numbers were on him and Majors when he replaced him?

I really liked hearing how the search went down. Hamilton was extremely careful to avoid leaks.
 
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I don't know that I ever didn't trust Mike ... necessarily. He was just different. Much more corporate, much more. Having not played ever, it would be very difficult for him to understand our world, having been from the development world where you stroke the boosters rather than Coach Dickey being a coach. He (Coach Dickey) understood those problems and how to make a stand and how to be tough, if you needed to be tough."
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Fulmer didn't mind Hamilton's corporate background when it's padding his pocket. He comes off looking like a jerk from this excerpt. I can't wait to get to a bookstore and read the entire book.
 
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cwil74` said:
Fulmer didn't mind Hamilton's corporate background when it's padding his pocket. He comes off looking like a jerk from this excerpt. I can't wait to get to a bookstore and read the entire book.
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I would say that by the time this thread has ran it's course. This book will be on most posters to get list. Mine included.
 
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triadvolfan said:
Fabulous read. I thought the he's won 5 games I've won 150 comment by Fulmer was ironic. I wonder what the numbers were on him and Majors when he replaced him?

I really liked hearing how the search went down. Hamilton was extremely careful to avoid leaks.
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VERY good point...probably somewhere about 4 wins to 120 wins for Majors.
 
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I am somewhat intrigued by the subtext here, which is that Fulmer thinks his firing was premature and that Hamilton is too corporate and doesn't understand the game or running a program, and that the hiring of Kiffin seems to be impulisive and flashy, but ultimately doomed.
 
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Great read. When the "girl of your dreams" breaks up with you, you do get mad/upset, I can understand his point. It takes time to reconcile the pain and Fulmer should be given the chance to reconcile it for himself. That being said I'm glad we went with CLK, he was/is needed at UT. Fulmer, even now, didn't realize he lost that "edge" or drive or whatever you want to call it but if he does he will be a good coach again. You don't win 150 games during his tenure by accident. Somebody may get a good coach when they hire him but for now we have a great coach, he hasn't lost any games at UT. Go Vols!
 
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"And I felt like I deserved, with the length of time I'd been there and all that I'd accomplished, that I needed a year to get it fixed and then make a decision if it didn't work."
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How does he not get that he got his do-over after 2005?

The hubris is just unbelievable. He really thought of himself as a legend with a lifetime job.
 
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