Lane Kiffin (Head football coach of the University of Tennessee)

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about Al Davis screwing him and making him keep the mullet man as his D-coordinator on his staff... get a clue.
 
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In my personal opinion let this guy go to Washington or Syracuse and fail but get a pass because hes younger than other coaches but stay far far away from Rocky Top.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Al Davis screwing him and making him keep the mullet made as his D-coordinator on his staff... get a clue.
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Rob Ryan is possibly the most intense DC in the NFL,the guy can flat out coach and is respected by every single player on that defense.

How did Al Davis screw him?
Explain to me how Davis screwed him,please go on because you don't know what you're talking about at all you're just another guy chiming in on the situation in Oakland believing it was wrong and letting Kiffin get a pass for being a horrible coach.
 
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I'm trying to understand the infatuation with Lane as well. I think he might make a great HC someday, but do we really think he can get it done on Rocky Top now?
 
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NFL= Not for long if you aint winning. Especially in Oakland. Kiffin knew this.
 
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Lane Kiffin should never be given another head coaching job. This guy is a total goof. He first off can't coach. He is a joke when it comes to offensive coaching.

He was given way too much credit at USC when Steve Sarkisian shared duties.

We shouldn't even be talking about Kiffin cause he should never have gotten the NFL job.

He won't be the HC at UT.
 
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RNVol said:
Rob Ryan is possibly the most intense DC in the NFL,the guy can flat out coach and is respected by every single player on that defense.

How did Al Davis screw him?
Explain to me how Davis screwed him,please go on because you don't know what you're talking about at all you're just another guy chiming in on the situation in Oakland believing it was wrong and letting Kiffin get a pass for being a horrible coach.
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You have got to be kidding me. You're not even worth the time if you believe ANY of that garbage you just spewed out on to your keyboard.

Congrats - Fulmer obviously has the respect of all his player. Doesn't give him the pass for being a bad coach. Oaklands defenses have been horrible lately - that may not be all on Rob - but it is on the senile Al Davis.

I don't know how good of a coach Kiffin would be - it would be risky - but he definitely stepped in to a lose/lose situation at Oakland. Guy couldn't even pick his freakin' staff least of all.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
You have got to be kidding me. You're not even worth the time if you believe ANY of that garbage you just spewed out on to your keyboard.

Congrats - Fulmer obviously has the respect of all his player. Doesn't give him the pass for being a bad coach. Oaklands defenses have been horrible lately - that may not be all on Rob - but it is on the senile Al Davis.

I don't know how good of a coach Kiffin would be - it would be risky - but he definitely stepped in to a lose/lose situation at Oakland. Guy couldn't even pick his freakin' staff least of all.
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Kiffin stepped into it. And he lost. Fair or not he didn't prove anything and that's how he will be judged.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
You have got to be kidding me. You're not even worth the time if you believe ANY of that garbage you just spewed out on to your keyboard.

Congrats - Fulmer obviously has the respect of all his player. Doesn't give him the pass of being a bad coach. Oaklands defenses have been horrible lately - that may not be all on Rob - but it is on the senile Al Davis.

I don't know how good of a coach Kiffin would be - it would be risky - but he definitely stepped in to a lose/lose situation at Oakland. Guy can't even pick his freakin' staff least of all.
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Gruden couldn't pick his staff either when he started in Oakland,but after he showed he could coach the Raiders to a win he was awarded with more and more trust from Al Davis.

That's not neccesarily how coaching should be but when it comes to young first time coaches like that in the NFL you have to see if they have what it takes before giving them control to make those decisions.

The fact you even consider Fulmer a bad coach shows me that im talking to a troll.
 
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Before joining the Silver and Black, Kiffin presided over the vaunted offensive attack at the University of Southern California that featured a long, medium and short-range passing game coupled with a power running attack. His tutoring helped the Trojans capture back-to-back National College Football Championships in 2003 and 2004. Kiffin’s play-calling, structure and offensive design helped the Trojans produce two HeismanTrophy winners: Reggie Bush in 2005 and Matt Leinart in 2004.


Kiffin completed his sixth year at USC in 2006. He joined the Trojan staff in 2001, handling the tight ends and coached wide receivers from 2002-03. In 2004, he added the responsibility of passing game coordinator in addition to coaching wide receivers.


In 2005, he was promoted to offensive and recruiting coordinator while continuing as the wide receivers coach. In Kiffin’s three years as recruiting coordinator at USC, the Trojans had the No. 1-ranked recruiting class in college football every year. Under Kiffin’s leadership in 2006, the Trojans finished first in the Pac-10 in passing efficiency
by averaging 142.8 yards per game, produced two, 1,000-yard receivers (Dwayne Jarrett — 1,105, Steve Smith — 1,083) and a 3,000-yard passer (John David Booty — 3,347).


In 2005, Kiffin was named one of the nation’s top-25 recruiters and served as offensive coordinator of an offense that ranked in the top six nationally in every offensive category — including first in total offense (579.8 yards per game), second in scoring offense (49.1) and set Pac-10 records for total yardage, first downs, points scored, touchdowns and PATs. The Trojans, who scored 50 points a school-record seven times, won games by an average of 26.2 points. Kiffin’s play-calling and offensive design enabled Bush to capture the 2005 Heisman and the Trojans to become the first school to have a 3,000-yard passer (Leinart — 3,815), a pair of 1,000-yard runners (Bush — 1,777, LenDale White — 1,319) and a 1,000-yard receiver (Jarrett — 1,274) in a season.


In 2004, Kiffin coached on a staff that led Southern California to its second straight National Championship. He was in charge of a passing attack that helped Leinart win the Heisman Trophy with 3,322 yards passing and 33 touchdowns.

He also mentored the Trojan wide receivers — including Tennessee’s Mike Williams, a consensus All-American first teamer and a finalist for the Biletnikoff Award in 2003, who set Southern California career (30) and season (16) touchdown reception records. Kiffin also coached Denver’s Keary Colbert, who set the Southern California career reception record (207) and was a NFL second round pick and Jarrett, who’s in his second season with Carolina.

In 2002, Kiffin coached the Southern California wide receivers that included Williams, who was Freshman All-American first team and the Pac-10 Freshman of the Year, and Colbert, who combined with Williams to become Southern California’s first pair of 1,000-yard receivers. He also coached Kareem Kelly, who was the Trojans career reception leader during 2002 and a2003 sixth round NFL Draft pick by New Orleans. With Kiffin on the coaching staff, Southern California played in the 2001 Las Vegas Bowl, 2003 Orange Bowl, 2004 Rose Bowl, 2005 Orange Bowl (BCS Championship Game) and 2006 Rose Bowl (BCS Championship Game) and the 2007 Rose Bowl.

NUFF SAID
 
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RNVol said:
Gruden couldn't pick his staff either when he started in Oakland,but after he showed he could coach the Raiders to a win he was awarded with more and more trust from Al Davis.

That's not neccesarily how coaching should be but when it comes to young first time coaches like that in the NFL you have to see if they have what it takes before giving them control to make those decisions.

The fact you even consider Fulmer a bad coach shows me that im talking to a troll.
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Gruden had it better than Kiffin (although I would take Gruden over him anyday) when it comes to personnel.

Yep, a troll with over 4,000 posts. Good try though.

Fulmer is a bad coach. Was he always in his coaching career here? No.
 
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UC Vol, did'nt want to quote your whole post, but in his first stint as a HC he failed. So he proved he is a good OC and not a good HC. I wouldn't want to take a chance on him just yet.
 
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VolsSmoke said:
Lane Kiffin should never be given another head coaching job. This guy is a total goof. He first off can't coach. He is a joke when it comes to offensive coaching.

He was given way too much credit at USC when Steve Sarkisian shared duties.

We shouldn't even be talking about Kiffin cause he should never have gotten the NFL job.

He won't be the HC at UT.
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Amen.

He was given way too much credit at USC,but to be noted that USC hasn't won a NC since Sark/Kiffin began calling plays.Kiffin has been given way too much credit when it comes to recruiting at SC,because he didn't recruit the top talent there;Ken Norton Jr is an excpetional recruiter.

Davis thought he could get lucky with hiring Kiffin like he did with Jon Gruden.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Gruden had it better than Kiffin (although I would take Gruden over him anyday) when it comes to personnel.

Yep, a troll with over 4,000 posts. Good try though.

Fulmer is a bad coach. Was he always in his coaching career here? No.
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Gruden & Kiffin had the same decision making over personnel when they began in Oakland,do your research.
Kiffin had better personnel than Gruden did in their first year.

Gruden had Donald Hollas at QB:eek:lol: and they ended up winning 8 games because he could actually coach and motivate,something Kiffin has never shown he can do.

Fulmer isn't a bad coach.

He's a good coach with a great legacy,he couldn't live up to his past accomplishments anymore.
But for you to believe he's a bad coach is laughable.

You know a coach created a legacy of success when 10-3 and 9-4 is unacceptable for him.
 
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3-6 is a bad. He was great in his prime and just bad in his worst times, specifically without Coach Cutt. And Oakland's core player personnel when Gruden was there and Al wasn't extremely senile yet >>>>>>>>>> Lane's bunch.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
3-6 is a bad. He was great in his prime and just bad in his worst times and without Coach Cutt. Sorry to tell you. And Oakland's player personnel when Gruden was there and Al wasn't extremely senile yet >>>>>>>>>> Lane's bunch.
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We went 5-6 in 2005 and after that we went 9-4 and 10-4 with a trip to the SEC Championship.
How this season justifies Fulmer as being a bad coach is rubbish,every school in the SEC has a down season once every couple of years.

Jon Gruden was HC for 4 seasons.

Lane Kiffin was HC for 1 1/2 seasons.

Eventually Gruden's personnel got better but in comparison to when both began,Kiffin had the better personnel but Gruden showed that he was a better coach when it came to play calling,motivating his players,and game preperation than Kiffin did.

Gruden also had better NFL coaching pedigree learning under Mike Holmgren and Ray Rhodes compared to Kiffin learning under Pete Carroll.
 
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I dont understand the Kiffin infatuation by some either.

I dont know why a top tier program (I know that is debatable at the moment but that is what this hire is about) like UT would take a chance with a coach that has not proven anything as a head coach and is questionable about his entire role as an assistant.

To me it looks like he inherited a great program from Norm Chow. (Although he was the tight ends/Rec coach) Then did not win a title during that time. He also shared duties so it seems unsure about who gets the credit for the good.

Then as far as the Raiders go...

So what he has proven is...he is good at position coach but unproven beyond that. And with the problems there may be some baggage there.

Too much of a chance for Tennessee as far as I see.
 
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RNVol said:
We went 5-6 in 2005 and after that we went 9-4 and 10-4 with a trip to the SEC Championship.
How this season justifies Fulmer as being a bad coach is rubbish,every school in the SEC has a down season once every couple of years.

Jon Gruden was HC for 4 seasons.

Lane Kiffin was HC for 1 1/2 seasons.

Eventually Gruden's personnel got better but in comparison to when both began,Kiffin had the better personnel but Gruden showed that he was a better coach when it came to play calling,motivating his players,and game preperation than Kiffin did.

Gruden also had better NFL coaching pedigree learning under Mike Holmgren and Ray Rhodes compared to Kiffin learning under Pete Carroll.
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Answer me this, do you believe CPF deserved to be let go?
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Answer me this, do you believe CPF deserved to be let go?
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Yes.

A change needed to be made for some time now,it's not because he wasn't having success at UT it's just because we weren't excited any more about the seasons.
 
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Bump....

Surprised to see the Kiffen thread on page 3 of the board today.

Who's the favorite now?
 
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I live with an East Carolina football player that played high school football with Keith Rivers(USC linebacker that went to the cincinnati bengals in the first round last year). I asked the ECU player about Kiffen and he told me that he meet Kiffen when him Keith went to a camp at USC. Kiffen was in charge of taking care of the two Florida players(my freind and Keith). Apparently Kiffen walked up to my freind the first day and knew his name told him if he needed anything throughout the camp or the recruiting process to let him know and gave him his business card so he could call him anytime. Throughout the camp Kiffen drove my freind around in his car when the rest of the players had to ride a bus and just went the extra mile the whole week. He said that he really appreciated Kiffen making him feel like he was a Parade All-American even though he knew he was never going to USC. He told me that Kiffen was the best recruiter he delt with period. That is saying a lot because he was offered scholarships and recruited by Steve Spurrier, Ed Orgeron, Lou Holtz, Skip Holtz, and Jim Leavitz. I asked him if Lane Kiffen was the offensive genious at USC he said no and that Steve Sarkisian the OC there now at USC is but that Sarkisian is a total jerk and was actually making fun of Matt Lienart the whole week. This was before Matt was Matt at USC. Apperantly Sarkisian was all over John David Booty and thought he was going to be the second coming of Palmer. But anyways take this story for what its worth personally I think Hamilton is a very smart guy and will make the right decision and I dont prefer one candidate over another.
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read this on another board
 
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I feel like Kiffin is going to be the coach. He's young, can recruit and has something to prove after the Raiders fiasco.
 
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I think Kiffen would be a great choice...risky but I just feel like he is getting a bad rap from his BS stint at Oakland...I don't know if he is the best we could do, but I think he will be better then most of yall think
 
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