Lance Thompson's Contract Not Extended

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Fullfillmer said:
Think about it - there is a reason someone hasn't snatched up Kirby Smart as their head coach. There's a reason somebody hasn't snatched up Phil Fulmer as their head coach. These things are not just an oversight by every college in America with an opening. These guys seldom if ever are even mentioned much less getting an interview.
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Smart was reported to have interviewed at Texas A&M this year and their message board said he turned down their offer. I think he is just waiting on the job he wants rather than just taking a job to be a HC. JMO
 
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It was a no brainer good for him.You have to look out for yourself.He was probably our best recruiter.And Kirby Smart if you know anything will be at a good HC job in the next couple of years.The good news bad news is Alabama is already loaded with top notch recruits so he can't take many with him but they can go elsewhere
 
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AllVolYall said:
You're funny. If UT hired him as HC, you would be saying how great a hire it wa
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Doubtful, troll. I see nothing that tells me he would be a great hire.

And I notice YOU didn't mention anything.

Mr.Fister said:
people are going off on here like its the second coming of jesus when we hired sabans linebacker coach but you dont think anybody would want to hire smart as a hc?...
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I'm sure Smart would make a great LB coach, too.

Just not HC.
 
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I thought Thompson left Bama because Saban pissed him off about working on Christmas and new years?
 
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rcrrcr said:
Dooley and Thompson did not get along. Thompson was not going to be the DC. But Dooley should have at least interviewed him. That would have been the decent thing to to do. Lance Thompson felt disrespected by not receiving at least an interview so he left. He did not get a contract extension more security at Bama so he left. Means only one hangover from Kiffin's coaching staff.
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Dooley doesnt get along with any of his coaches, not just Lance
 
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IMO it was:

1) Contract extension related to the role he was in.
2) No interview for DC.
3) Less than harmonious relationship with Dooley/Hart - Hart has put an end to the profanity laced tirades for which CLT is famous, as well as Dooley's trash talking players in the media.
4) OK, not great, performance as DL position coach making $400 K per year - see #1 above.
5) Lateral move back to a HC that still respects his work. Doubtful heir to the DC role when Smart leaves. Probably a discussion was held on "expectations" personally and professionally.

Kirby Smart could decide to stay at Bama until either Richt is terminated/quits at UGA, or until Saban leaves/retires. Or he could be the coach in waiting at UT if CDD doesn't make it.
 
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Vols4us said:
IMO it was:

1) Contract extension related to the role he was in.
2) No interview for DC.
3) Less than harmonious relationship with Dooley/Hart - Hart has put an end to the profanity laced tirades for which CLT is famous, as well as Dooley's trash talking players in the media.
4) OK, not great, performance as DL position coach making $400 K per year - see #1 above.
5) Lateral move back to a HC that still respects his work. Doubtful heir to the DC role when Smart leaves. Probably a discussion was held on "expectations" personally and professionally.

Kirby Smart could decide to stay at Bama until either Richt is terminated/quits at UGA, or until Saban leaves/retires. Or he could be the coach in waiting at UT if CDD doesn't make it.
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i agree with this but i also have to think that all the coaches that left are use to being with winning programs...we seemed to have no offensive game plan other than hope that bray can win it for us going into last season and when he went out we were lost...the lack of a second half game plan in every game should have been proof that the changes needed to take place on the offensive side of the ball, so it kinda sucks seeing all the defensive coaches jumping ship. college is a lot faster than high school so just signing a good high school player and hoping for the best with a bunch of guys that are good recruiters but no coaching experience sounds like a bad idea to me. we can get all the "sabans assistants" in the world but if you dont have saban telling them what to do its kinda pointless.
 
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Mr.Fister said:
i agree with this but i also have to think that all the coaches that left are use to being with winning programs...we seemed to have no offensive game plan other than hope that bray can win it for us going into last season and when he went out we were lost...the lack of a second half game plan in every game should have been proof that the changes needed to take place on the offensive side of the ball, so it kinda sucks seeing all the defensive coaches jumping ship. college is a lot faster than high school so just signing a good high school player and hoping for the best with a bunch of guys that are good recruiters but no coaching experience sounds like a bad idea to me. we can get all the "sabans assistants" in the world but if you dont have saban telling them what to do its kinda pointless.
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Bingo :thumbsup:
 
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Why would anyone want Smart as HC?

can someone list his qualifications? What HC experience does he have?
 
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Mr.Fister said:
i agree with this but i also have to think that all the coaches that left are use to being with winning programs...we seemed to have no offensive game plan other than hope that bray can win it for us going into last season and when he went out we were lost...the lack of a second half game plan in every game should have been proof that the changes needed to take place on the offensive side of the ball, so it kinda sucks seeing all the defensive coaches jumping ship. college is a lot faster than high school so just signing a good high school player and hoping for the best with a bunch of guys that are good recruiters but no coaching experience sounds like a bad idea to me. we can get all the "sabans assistants" in the world but if you dont have saban telling them what to do its kinda pointless.
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Saban has proved himself as a coach and there is NO argument there, but it sticks in my craw(sp) that we at TENNESSEE want to be like him and take the Alabama rejects

To H*** with the entire state of Alabama and let's build a Tennessee program.... but that is just an old man's rant
 
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According to wikipedia's bio he has zero HC experience.

So he needs to go somewhere else first, some lower-tier school, and get some experience before thinking he can coach at the U of T.
 
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Vol2424 said:
"The school has yet to provide defensive line coach Lance Thompson's contract." Andrew Gribble 12-13-11

UT has strength in numbers with Ron McKeefery's contract : govolsxtra.com

It makes me wonder if we parted ways. The players don't seem shocked. Did they know ahead of time? The recruits don't either. Maybe Dooley had other plans. I don't think they will come out and say they let him go , sort of the way Steele left Clemson. I liked Thompson and wanted him to stay. I'm just starting to think it was our choice and not his. If this is the case , I hope the media picks up on it. Even if they do they will still probably drag us through the dirt as usual.
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I guess I'm not reading it the same way as you do, or as I think you do.

Just because UT didn't provide CLT's contract to the press, the way it did the other coaches' contracts, doesn't mean that they didn't extend it.

Or by "didn't extend it", did you mean that he would only be getting a one-year contract from Hart, as did the others?

Sorry, not enough coffee yet. :hi:
 
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AllVolYall said:
You're funny. If UT hired him as HC, you would be saying how great a hire it was, and he was the best up and coming HC, and blah..blah..blah (insert your sheepish, uninformed comments here) :lolabove:
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Ok, I will.

Kirby Smart is Derek Dooley if he hadn't taken the La. Tech job and went to Alabama with Saban.
 
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rcrrcr said:
Dooley and Thompson did not get along. Thompson was not going to be the DC. But Dooley should have at least interviewed him. That would have been the decent thing to to do. Lance Thompson felt disrespected by not receiving at least an interview so he left. He did not get a contract extension more security at Bama so he left. Means only one hangover from Kiffin's coaching staff.
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If he leaves that is one less person remaining from the mess that was Lane Kiffin. That means the Chaney is the only one left from Kiffin. The sooner we clean up the mess he created the better. Dooley is dealing with the mess Kiffin left. Had he inherited what Fulmer left I do not think there would be the anti-Dooley talk with VolNation.
 
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cbbowlingmd said:
Well, if you believe some of the stupid posts on this board, we would.
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Kirby Smartt will have a good head coaching position soon. I would say in the SEC or anywhere else that he wants. If Florida is bad this year it may be that he ends up there. He would never leave Alabama to be head coach at Austin Peay.
 
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LT came here to learn under Monte Kiffin, not because he wanted a change of scenery. He got a full year under Monte's wing, and I thought Monte was grooming him to be his successor in a few years. Since Dooley came aboard, there was a chance to be the DC before Wilcox was named the guy. He got passed over. Tried to show a little patience and got passed over again two years later, by a guy in the very same position he was in 3yrs earlier.

Sunseri has shown nothing that LT hasn't, in regard to being promoted. I would go back if I were in his shoes. He'd be more of a proven commodity under Saban, than here. Smart move on his part. It's all about making the perceived "Splash" hire. So, LT went where he'll be perceived as such in the next few years.
 
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Is it for sure that LT is leaving UT? Less than a week after Coach Sal being hired, people are already saying we need to replace LT. There are several threads on this topic. It seems people are never happy, first they wanted to keep Lance and now all of a sudden we are better off with out him.

Maybe I missed it but where was it said that he is officially leaving? I guess it is time for Skeeter or OCI to clear this up for us.
 
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TnAngler said:
Is it for sure that LT is leaving UT? Less than a week after Coach Sal being hired, people are already saying we need to replace LT. There are several threads on this topic. It seems people are never happy, first they wanted to keep Lance and now all of a sudden we are better off with out him.

Maybe I missed it but where was it said that he is officially leaving? I guess it is time for Skeeter or OCI to clear this up for us.
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Lance Thompson appears headed back to Alabama » GoVolsXtra
 
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honestly he was a great guy but it was time to part ways.... we got the better end of the deal i would trade Wilcoxs and LT for Sal in a heartbeat plus we got another coach coming in!! Things are looking up for Tennessee
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
LT came here to learn under Monte Kiffin, not because he wanted a change of scenery. He got a full year under Monte's wing, and I thought Monte was grooming him to be his successor in a few years. Since Dooley came aboard, there was a chance to be the DC before Wilcox was named the guy. He got passed over. Tried to show a little patience and got passed over again two years later, by a guy in the very same position he was in 3yrs earlier.
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Reasonable recap.

Sunseri has shown nothing that LT hasn't, in regard to being promoted.
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You simply do not know that. You have not worked with him on a daily basis to know what his potential as a DC is. Having checkmarks on your resume isn't all that's involved. Hart has experience with both men. Dooley has experience with both men. They chose Sunseri. Dooley passed over Thompson twice.

I can't tell you why although some have hinted at personal issues in the past. I definitely wanted him to stay but his possible departure was definitely part of the calculation when others were being considered....
I would go back if I were in his shoes. He'd be more of a proven commodity under Saban, than here. Smart move on his part. It's all about making the perceived "Splash" hire. So, LT went where he'll be perceived as such in the next few years.
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That's fair. Now UT has to go out and make their own splash hire to replace him. There are some very good names out there right now.
 
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