Lack of coaching AND Talent

#27
#27
I'll tell you what the difference is. . .S P E E D! UT was known for years as a very quick team. This is the diffference now between us and Florida. . .we can't stay with their skill people. Another big issue is special teams! UT was always known as a great special teams club. Again, not any more!

I'll always be positive on the Vols but our guys are beating themselves with stupid penalties.
 
#28
#28
Volmorning said:
I for one have had it with this program. Yes, it is poorly coached, and a change needs to happen. But... after watching us against Florida the last two years, does anybody else, besides me, think that there is a serious talent deficit too?

I'd never name individual kids, but we looked like a high school team out there today. Coaching can only go so far, and now I definitely think talen is a problem too.
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You hit the nail on the head. We got beat today by the Better Boys:
Better Talent
Better Coaching(top to bottom)
 
#30
#30
anyone who thinks we match up Florida in talent has alot of empty space between their ears. Florida is dipping into a talent pool that Tennessee fishes in once ever 3 or 4 years and it's not even close.
 
#31
#31
I40VOL said:
anyone who thinks we match up Florida in talent has alot of empty space between their ears. Florida is dipping into a talent pool that Tennessee fishes in once ever 3 or 4 years and it's not even close.
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Your right it was on display for all to see. Its not close and the scary part is even the also rans are closing the talent gap on us.
 
#32
#32
Yes we may be a little down on talent, but with proper coaching, dicispline and motivaton a sub par team can compete, ie. Spurrier and SC. There is something missing on the hill............
In the late 90's our talent was so superior to everyone else that the guys didn't need superior coaching they won on talent and when we did get beat it was because someone outcoached us.
Fumbles, penalties, backs running into each other, blown blocking assignments, missed reads, mistakes it all falls back to what have you guys been doing all week with those kids?
 
#33
#33
I think the Vols have the talent, they always do, but they don't have the "head" to go with it. The last few years, Fulmer coached teams have no discipline, no leadership and want an easy way to win by showing up in orange. I guess I'm also disappointed in Clawson. I'm from VA and was quite excited for UT when Clawson was hired from Univ. of Richmond. I thought finally-new blood. Then I watch the UCLA game and it looks so similar from years past. UAB the same thing, then today. I still think they have talent, but as said last year, the Vols need to recruit players that want to play for UT first then the NFL.
 
#34
#34
i really dont think it comes down to our talent as much as people are saying. we have three good runningbacks(as long as we keep arian on the sidelines if we're in the redzone), decent wide receivers, and we were supposed to have one of the best backfields in football.

it all comes back around to coaching. missed tackles, busted routes, defensive misreads and stupid prevent packages...it's all coaching. of course we dont have the best qb in the world right now, but if we had good coaches, they'd realize that and try something else. let gj try to THROW the ball, even if it's a five yard pass, who knows what could happen. it makes me sick that we have the talent that we do and 5% of it is being used. florida didnt look all that good to me today, we played stupid. it's as simple as that.
 
#35
#35
egotisticalmoron said:
i really dont think it comes down to our talent as much as people are saying. we have three good runningbacks(as long as we keep arian on the sidelines if we're in the redzone), decent wide receivers, and we were supposed to have one of the best backfields in football.
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I never heard anyone saying this, unless you meant defensive backfields.
 
#38
#38
We have the talent to compete in the SEC, I firmly believe that.

Coaching is the problem, coaching, coaching, coaching. They don't motivate, they don't game plan well, they don't make game time adjustments well, they don't utilize talent well at all.
 
#39
#39
in the early 90's, fulmer didn't have to compete with saban, richt, miles, meyer, butch davis, bobby bowden for talent in surround states, we were able to pick and choose who we wanted...ummmmm not anymore
 
#40
#40
Look, we hung right in there with FL today. Take away the boneheaded penalties, unforced turnovers, and poor special teams play, and we are right in that game. I believe that we actually had more Total Yards of Offense than they did. I will admit that Florida's speed was a problem for us. Who's job is it to run schemes that can negate some of this advantage? The coaching staff...Our gameplan was all kinds of wrong from the start. We came out trying to go punch for punch with FL always at full speed, which played right into their hands.
 
#41
#41
phi0129 said:
Look, we hung right in there with FL today. Take away the boneheaded penalties, unforced turnovers, and poor special teams play, and we are right in that game. I believe that we actually had more Total Yards of Offense than they did. I will admit that Florida's speed was a problem for us. Who's job is it to run schemes that can negate some of this advantage? The coaching staff...Our gameplan was all kinds of wrong from the start. We came out trying to go punch for punch with FL always at full speed, which played right into their hands.
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Dude, we 'hung in' simply b/c Meyer didnt have to turn it up and go deep.
 
#42
#42
Volmorning said:
Berry and Jones, after taht, I'm not sure we have anything other than decent College football palyers.

Before you start screaming... YES... coaching is the main problem, but talent can overcome awful coaching i the open field. Last year we saw it too much for comfort... this year... not at all...
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Yes. Superior talent that is head and shoulders above the talent level of the opposition can overcome crappy, incompetent coaching. UT has thrived on that fact since Fulmer took over as head coach. However, now that the rest of the SEC has acquired excellent head coaches that can recruit as well or better than Fulmer, Fulmer is being exposed for the loser that he is.
 
#43
#43
sickemsmokey10 said:
my buddy said that the guys on TV were saying that on offense, Tennessee has Gerald Jones and that's it and they weren't even close to the talent level of Florida. did anybody else here this? because if they did say that, they're spot on
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I did hear that since I only watched the second half on TV. But they showed that there are 13 UF players run 4.4 or faster in 40-yard

In terms of offense's talent, don't we return the best O-line in the country, 12 WR rotation, a predicted 2-rd pick RB last year, and the 3rd best hs QB in 05. I can't really blame anybody but the coaches.
 
#44
#44
I for one do not think talent is the issue. This team is full of talent, what they lack is dicipline. And that is the coaches responsibility.

Along with a new defensive co-ordinator, offensive co-ordinator and did I forget... A new coach !!
 
#45
#45
Florida's defense could have ran circles around our offense.

I thought the defense played well today, but Florida looked like they were playing pretty vanilla offensively. It seemed like once they got up 17-0 they knew we couldn't put up that many on them.
 
#47
#47
I don't think talent was the issue. As for defense, our secondary is very talented and we have a pretty good linebacker core and defensive line. As for offense, sure our receivers aren't that fast except for Gerald Jones, but the rest of our offense is talented. Brandon Warren was a freshman All American. Arian Foster was shown on espn before as being the projected 3rd running back picked in the draft. We have 5 returning lineman that only allowed 4 sacks last year. Florida does have faster wide receivers than us, but besides that our talent is pretty much equal. The reason we have been playing so poorly is:
1. Turnovers at key times
2. Penalties
3. Special Teams
4. Prevent Defense (UCLA Game)
 
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