KNS reporting Lane Kiffin to become next head coach

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walt2007 said:
I halfway wonder if he did this in the hopes that Kiffin fails so he can bring back Fulmer. QUOTE]

Sure he hired a coach that would fail so he can bring back the coach he just fired in three years.

Makes total sense.
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SavageOrangeJug said:
You are correct.

I think this is a terrible hire. However, I now have no choice but to support Coach Kiffin, and hope we win a lot of football games.

GO VOLS!
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"Terrible" seems a little extreme to me. Is it a slam dunk hire like Saban was? Of course not. But you can only hire somebody who's available and willing to say yes.

I don't pretend to be privy to all this inside information that everyone else on the board claims to be, but it sure seems to me like Hamilton's done what he was supposed to do. He talked to Gruden, who said no. He apparently made repeated offers to Butch Davis, but at some point when he says "no" you have to accept it. At that point Hamilton had no choice but to hire a "lesser" coach. Who was left that compares so favorably to Kiffin that it makes him a "terrible hire"?

The difference between Gruden/Davis and Kiffin is significant, sure. But the difference between Kiffin and Kelly (my preference) or Patterson? Not so much.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
"Terrible" seems a little extreme to me. Is it a slam dunk hire like Saban was? Of course not. But you can only hire somebody who's available and willing to say yes.

I don't pretend to be privy to all this inside information that everyone else on the board claims to be, but it sure seems to me like Hamilton's done what he was supposed to do. He talked to Gruden, who said no. He apparently made repeated offers to Butch Davis, but at some point when he says "no" you have to accept it. At that point Hamilton had no choice but to hire a "lesser" coach. Who was left that compares so favorably to Kiffin that it makes him a "terrible hire"?

The difference between Gruden/Davis and Kiffin is significant, sure. But the difference between Kiffin and Kelly (my preference) or Patterson? Not so much.
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yeah like last call at the bar,,that girl that was ugly a few hours ago is now a home run,,if u get what your after,,LMAO.
 
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#110
we are screwed......no experience in the White House nor on Rocky top.
It will be a long four years!
 
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gemlek said:
we are screwed......no experience in the White House nor on Rocky top.
It will be a long four years!
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I can handle the no experience on Rocky Top, we can fix that faster. Its the no experience in the White House that scares me. Thats not easy to fix or as fast.
 
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walt2007 said:
Amen. And while we're at it, we should start the campaign to fire the idiot responsible for this nonsense. And this isn't being negative - it's being realistic about what we should have been able to expect, but didn't get. Florida and Bama both, in the past, have made hires that were gambles, and which did not pay off; for their latest hires, both schools pulled out the stops (competing with ND and an NFL team, respectively) and went after and got a proven, top-tier coach. We should have been able to expect that with this hire; we didn't get it. If Monte Kiffin shows up in Knoxville a month from now, I will shut up and admit I was wrong; otherwise, this is nothing short of incompetent and negligent on Hamilton's part, and if Kiffin is anything less than wildly successful H. should be summarily fired. I halfway wonder if he did this in the hopes that Kiffin fails so he can bring back Fulmer. This would be wildly delusional on his part, but I just can't fathom why he would do this otherwise, unless it's just laziness on his part, or an unwillingness to spend the money that should have been spent, which is still completely inexcusable (if it was just money, I'd venture a large wager that probably 99% of the students at UTK would agree to pay a separate fee every semester of several dollars, just to make up the difference - but we all know the money was there, H. just didn't spend it - and if he spent it on Kiffin he should be fired tomorrow).

Hamilton just told the entire country that football is no longer as high of a priority at this school as it is at Florida or Bama. I hope I'm wrong, but this is incompetent and negligent. It's a slap in the face to fans who hoped and expected that he truly would do his best to bring us back to prominence.
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This is probably the worst post I have ever read on VolNation.

Who exactly was out there for us to go get? There were not any "top-tier" coaches out there to go pick up.

Thanks for playing though.
 
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Advanced copy of photo to be released in the press.....

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vol_in_ar said:
well Hamilton really went the whold 9 yards with this hire..

Can't believe Tennessee couldn't get an accomplished coach, it's disappointing
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vol_in_ar said:
well Hamilton really went the whole 9 yards with this hire..

Can't believe Tennessee couldn't get an accomplished coach, it's disappointing
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Hmmmmm. I wonder what vol_in_ar thinks about this? :question:
 
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therealUT said:
Yes. Moreover, if you believe that Hamilton has made rational decisions concerning the football team, then you have obviously forgotten about the extensions to CPF and the hiring of Clawson...
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I question you about the hiring of Clawson. I think that was CPF.

So he gets no credit for Pearl?
 
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I don't get how people keep acting like this was something they figured out over lunch at wendy's. There's alot that goes into finding a good coach. I'm sure there were agencies hired to put input into this prior to just getting the big okie dokie from Hamilton. I feel some people here just like to talk to hear themselves talk. Give the guy a chance, he hasn't even been officially announced yet, and people are talking how bad a signing this is. He was hired as an nfl head coach, he was sought after by several other college programs. I'm here for one reason, that's to see the vols turn this mess around. I'm hoping thats what everyone else here has on their agenda.
 
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#123
I'm not going either way on this, I'm just saying how about letting him coach and see what happens? It wasn't going anywhere the past few years except down. The one little pick me up we had was last season with DC coming back...he left and we dropped off the edge of the world. That in itself tells me something about Fulmer.
 
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sMi.Spite said:
This is probably the worst post I have ever read on VolNation.

Who exactly was out there for us to go get? There were not any "top-tier" coaches out there to go pick up.

Thanks for playing though.
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I'm dazzled by the brilliance of your argument. Oh, wait, there isn't one, you just called it a bad post like some two-year-old. Maybe you should go back to your dorm room and sleep off the booze so maybe you can graduate and get a job and enter the world of reality.

Brian Kelly is a top-tier coach. In a whopping two years, he has taken a school that had never been anything other than utterly and completely irrelevant in football, to a BCS bowl. (All he did at his school before that was to take them from the bottom to the top of their conference and a conference championship in three years.) I realize you're probably too mentally challenged to make this leap, so I'm going to help you out: there are only a handful of BCS bowls each year, and you have to be one of the best teams in the country to play in one. For reference, we haven't played in one in ten years. We could have had Kelly, without a doubt. He's not just a proven coach, he's a coach that has completely turned around multiple programs in a very short period of time. If that's not top-tier to you, you're just not very knowledgeable about football.

Kyle Whittingham's team is unbeaten, and is also going to a BCS bowl. He coaches the exact same team, that has the same number of losses, that Urban Meyer coached when he was hired by Florida. And if you think that somehow the team just went on autopilot and his coaching has nothing to do with their record, you obviously are in your first season of college football viewing and know exactly nothing about it.

Chris Petersen is most definitely top-tier. Here again, I'm sure you're so deeply mired in your own reality that to you, two undefeated seasons in three years, and that many BCS bowls in three years, means nothing. And I'm sure that if he came here and had access to vastly superior talent to what he has at Boise State that he would somehow inexplicably become a terrible coach and not be able to do anything with said superior talent.

What it comes down to is that Hamilton, for whatever insane reason, didn't want to spend the money. If Monte shows up in Knoxville, it could be a good hire, though I still don't think a coordinator is as important as the head coach, who is the face of the program and the heart of the team. You can make juvenile ad hominem arguments all day - but then so can any teenager - but unless Monte shows up, and perhaps even then, Hamilton was negligent. But don't just ask me - Mark May said the same thing yesterday on ESPN, and Gary Barnett just echoed him on Sportsouth a few minutes ago. They both commented very specifically on how there were many candidates out there who were far more qualified, coaches who had, as Barnett put it, worked their way up through the ranks and proven themselves, and they seem not to even have been considered seriously.
 
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