Kippy Brown

[slobberknocker]

Hoss, people thought I was crazy for saying it, but I thought Hamilton should have offered the job to Spurrier the day Kiffin resigned.

Spurrier would have said thanks but no thanks. How many times are people gonna suggest this bs?

 

[zjcvols]

How about let him coach a game at UT. A game with far superior talent than he had at LA Tech. Coach a game at a University with far superior athletic facilities and more money for recruiting.

Every WAC school has that problem.

 

[DD4ME]

Seems to me that there were many on Muschamps tip when they heard Hamilton was in Dallas. Seems like some on here said that Hamilton should not leave Dallas until Hamilton gets a yes from Muschamp, if it meant paying out a bunch of money.

That's a fact Jack. That was one nightmare roller coaster ride. All the look who's being hired, wait, nevermind. Then DD was announced and had us all scratching.
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[DD4ME]

Too bad all those facts are also true about his new competition. No more Idahos, Nevadas, or Utah States. Instead, he gets the last 2 national champions as rivals. Good luck with that.

I just wonder if the SG is short for sour grapes and if Hat is short for hate? DD is short for dumb dolt in case you're wondering. Just a sheep chewing grass around this site. Thankful for all the fortune tellers to help me temper my expectations.
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[volroadwarrior]

Too bad all those facts are also true about his new competition. No more Idahos, Nevadas, or Utah States. Instead, he gets the last 2 national champions as rivals. Good luck with that.

Waaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!

 

[CountVolcula]

Every WAC school has that problem.

No doubt! All some of us are saying is lets see what he can do with what he has to work with at UT.
I'm not saying hes gonna win a NC in the next five years. I'm just saying he is OUR coach and we need to support him.

 

[CountVolcula]

Too bad all those facts are also true about his new competition. No more Idahos, Nevadas, or Utah States. Instead, he gets the last 2 national champions as rivals. Good luck with that.

How many Bobby Bowdens, Joe Paternos, Robert Neylands, Bear Bryants do you think are out there?

NC coaches dont grow on trees. The two best you have now are Saban and Meyer. Guess what? They were not born Head Coaches. They worked there way up, lost games, didnt win 13 games every year, and sure as hell didnt win a NC every year.

 

[zidanefan]

No doubt! All some of us are saying is lets see what he can do with what he has to work with at UT.
I'm not saying hes gonna win a NC in the next five years. I'm just saying he is OUR coach and we need to support him.

Buddy, there's no point. This is mental masturbation for them.
See post directly below this...
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[volwarrior33]

Man, can you just give the man a chance? Whats so hard about that. If he sucks, then you can come on here and proclaim that with a 50% chance, you got something right.

The chances of Dooley failing are much greater than 50.
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[g8terh8ter_eric]

The chances of Dooley failing are much greater than 50.
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He's either going to win or lose. If he wins, the haters will just get louder to try and talk over those that tried to be positive about the whole thing. Either way, the people complaining will still complain. It's what they do.

 

[Volfan8282]

He's either going to win or lose. If he wins, the haters will just get louder to try and talk over those that tried to be positive about the whole thing. Either way, the people complaining will still complain. It's what they do.

That's some deep stuff there.

 

[pastorfreeze]

Kippy interview was after Dooley was hired unofficvally and I think that was wrong no matter whom bone its on! The staff Dooley got is seriously underrated because there are some provens on there serous proven ones too! Do anyone think Chuck Smith looks like Duane "The Rock" Johnson? Might have been put out there but I am just asking.
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[CountVolcula]

Kippy interview was after Dooley was hired unofficvally and I think that was wrong no matter whom bone its on! The staff Dooley got is seriously underrated because there are some provens on there serous proven ones too! Do anyone think Chuck Smith looks like Duane "The Rock" Johnson? Might have been put out there but I am just asking.
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Chuck Smith is the man!!

Dooley went out and got the best coaches he could and got some real good ones.

 

[arTfuldodger]

Prominent AA? -Kippy used to be a drunk??
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[sharri49]

I don't think we should have kept Kippy as HC. I like the Dooley Hire

 

[ptclaus98]

NC coaches dont grow on trees. The two best you have now are Saban and Meyer. Guess what? They were not born Head Coaches. They worked there way up, lost games, didnt win 13 games every year, and sure as hell didnt win a NC every year.

Kind of like Al Golden, or Randy Edsall? Guys that took crap programs and are now getting them in bowl games. Guys that weren't even approached. Guys that also would have jumped at the chance to coach at UT.

 

[utmba93]

1. 5-7

2. Ideally Jim Leavitt or Patterson. Realistically, Brent Venable, Kevin Steele or Kirby Smart. I believe Tennessee could also have an "big fish" if they'd open the check book.

3. Not great until the new coach is hired, which would have been immediately after Vandy. I'm not a huge believe that one bad RC is worse for the program than one bad HC.

4. No worse than DD could be.

5. Thompson would have run the D and Chaney the O if I'm still talking hypotheticals.

That's a pretty fair summary of what would have been realistic expectations for KB. And, I'd add that he had the same slim chance to succeed that CDD has... just an easier exit strategy, which means a whole lot when one is gambling with a major football program as the ante.

 

[Cartervol]

Tennessee was in rebuilding mode anyway. If Hamilton hired Dooley with the sole purpose of saving a recruiting class then there is no hope with that doofus as AD. Rumors were he had been referred by Muschamp, i hope that isn't true either. Only thing i can think of is he hired him in hopes he could recruit with Saban and Meyer and it's too early to see if that will be the case. In the end we have to live with it, so move on. Forget the what ifs and maybe this and maybe that. It is what it is. If it was the wrong decision, then finally they'll get rid of the rest of the tumor that's been hampering Tennessee football. I hope they don't wait 3 years for that either. We'll see whether Dooley can get it done by his second year. If not clean house, start all over and hopefully they put someone in the AD's office that has a clue about football.

 

[BmoreVol]

For starters, you don't name him interim. You name him head football coach. You let him recruit and you get out of the way. If it works, great. If not, unwind is easier than it is going to should the current situation prove unmanageable.

I can't imagine expectations would be any worse than they are today.

I was all for giving Kippy the reins and letting him hire the D side to move forward.

Promising him a shot at the title and only playig lip service was absolute crap.
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Very well said - agree completely

 

[VegasVol]

Kind of like Al Golden, or Randy Edsall? Guys that took crap programs and are now getting them in bowl games. Guys that weren't even approached. Guys that also would have jumped at the chance to coach at UT.

There were stories and rumors out there that Edsall was approached and said no thanks. Golden should have been on a list, but if you've heard how MH put people on his list, it would not be a surprise he wasn't on there. (MH's method was "remembering" coaches from seeing "bowl games on TV" and "thinking" that might make a good coach. The typical nonsense athletic directors like MH think of when making coaching hires. People forget we owe Grunfeld for Pearl's hire, not MH.)

 

[VegasVol]

How many Bobby Bowdens, Joe Paternos, Robert Neylands, Bear Bryants do you think are out there?

NC coaches dont grow on trees. The two best you have now are Saban and Meyer. Guess what? They were not born Head Coaches. They worked there way up, lost games, didnt win 13 games every year, and sure as hell didnt win a NC every year.

Precisely. Saban was erratic through most of his coaching tenure until the last 2 years at Bama. I think he's a rare and elite coach, but even elite coaches go through droughts and valleys. JoePa struggled badly the first half of this decade; Bowden struggled most of the decade; Carroll couldn't get to a BCS title game without cheating; Meyer's 2005 and 2007 seasons underperformed; neither Holtz nor Spurrier could do much more than mediocrity at South Carolina; Majors did zip when he returned to Pitt; the Bear's & Neyland's of the world are the rarest of their kind, and even the Bear could never beat Neyland.

 

[kptvol]

MH's method was "remembering" coaches from seeing "bowl games on TV" and "thinking" that might make a good coach.

Source?

 

[utgibbs]

There were stories and rumors out there that Edsall was approached and said no thanks. Golden should have been on a list, but if you've heard how MH put people on his list, it would not be a surprise he wasn't on there. (MH's method was "remembering" coaches from seeing "bowl games on TV" and "thinking" that might make a good coach. The typical nonsense athletic directors like MH think of when making coaching hires. People forget we owe Grunfeld for Pearl's hire, not MH.)

Given our experience with Hambone, I think we actually have to give him some credit for listening to the right person (Grunfeld) on that front.

I'd love to know the methodology employed by Hambone where the best replacement for our second greatest coach was Lane Kiffin + Dad. What is even more remarkable is realizing this was on Hambone's mind in 2007 when he added the sweetner to Phil's contract. Therefore, almost a year of planning, and Hambone dials up CLK + Dad. Unbelievable.

 

[LWSVOL]

Given our experience with Hambone, I think we actually have to give him some credit for listening to the right person (Grunfeld) on that front.

I'd love to know the methodology employed by Hambone where the best replacement for our second greatest coach was Lane Kiffin + Dad. What is even more remarkable is realizing this was on Hambone's mind in 2007 when he added the sweetner to Phil's contract. Therefore, almost a year of planning, and Hambone dials up CLK + Dad. Unbelievable.

Kiffin was choice from the get go... others were looked at but decision had been made.. likely before the hammer dropped on CPF.

 

[GreveHaller]

Kiffin was choice from the get go... others were looked at but decision had been made.. likely before the hammer dropped on CPF.

Agree. The announcement was made at the first of December way before any bowl games were played.