Kiffin's playcalling

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Hardesty was 4.3 ypc. Brown was 4.7. Nuke had a big run that upped us to 5.2.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Dude, you can't throw down field with Crompton. It literally is forfeiting the game, yet we did so plenty. AU stacked the line EVERY play yet we averaged 6 yards per carry. If we keep pounding on the left side, Hardesty and Brown have a much better shot of tearing off a big one than Crompton does of completing a downfield pass.
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We did average 6 yrds a carry man, but we were inconsistent. We would get one for 20, and then one for minus 2. With this offense, if you run the ball on first down for minus 2 then the drive is over. That's why you have to attempt to be balanced, and when people are wide open all over the field, it's clearly not bad playcalling. Bottom line. And I apologize for calling you an idiot in my earlier post. I was out of line.
 
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It wasn't the play calling. It was the execution. Look at what happened with that play calling in the 4th Quarter when we did execute! Dropped balls and inaccurate passes cost us the game. Look out Dawgs. I feel a whipping coming on.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
You are a freakin retard. The receivers and QB are two of this team's biggest weaknesses. Kiffin's playcalling is playing to those weaknesses. Why not play to our team's strength...running the ball????????????????

Damn you are stupid. You say I have no intelligence and then you talk about how bad the receivers play and Crompton. Well guess what....Kiffin chose to give them all of those opportunities to screw the game up. Why play to our weakness so much? We will never win another game, except maybe Memphis, if Crompton throws it 43 times. Mark that down.
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i agree a lil with you.but when we got down 3rd down long u have to throw the ball and when receivers drop it or over throw them then yes their is a problem.i think u and the other person are both right but u say run the ball,i agree i like running the ball but you can't win without throwing the ball.
 
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Let's be realistic....Crompton is our quarter back. 43 passes! 43 passes! The play calling was great if we had a confident group of receivers and a QB who could execute but we don't. What we do have is a competent O-line and a great group of backs.

There is no reason why BB should only get three carries a game. No reason! Nuke only had one play at QB. It worked...why not try it again at least once more? Someone answer this.

Are you morons delusional? Quit being so sensitive about Kiffin. Given what we have to work with at QB and WR, the playcalling was not good. I'm just telling it like it is.
 
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dcrabtree813 said:
i agree a lil with you.but when we got down 3rd down long u have to throw the ball and when receivers drop it or over throw them then yes their is a problem.i think u and the other person are both right but u say run the ball,i agree i like running the ball but you can't win without throwing the ball.
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Obviously you have to throw it on third and long, but odds are it wouldn't be third and long so much if we didn;t try so many first and second down passes. The pass to run ratio was ridiculous. It's not like we have Cox at QB and Green at WR for example. And Cox isn't even that good. We have arguably the worst QB and group of receivers in the nation. There is no reason for 43 passes against a team with a mediocre run D.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Let's be realistic....Crompton is our quarter back. 43 passes! 43 passes! The play calling was great if we had a confident group of receivers and a QB who could execute but we don't. What we do have is a competent O-line and a great group of backs.

There is no reason why BB should only get three carries a game. No reason! Nuke only had one play at QB. It worked...why not try it again at least once more? Someone answer this.

Are you morons delusional? Quit being so sensitive about Kiffin. Given what we have to work with at QB and WR, the playcalling was not good. I'm just telling it like it is.
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You have no room to call anyone in this forum a moron when you have had innumerable epic failures on this board.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Let's be realistic....Crompton is our quarter back. 43 passes! 43 passes! The play calling was great if we had a confident group of receivers and a QB who could execute but we don't. What we do have is a competent O-line and a great group of backs.

There is no reason why BB should only get three carries a game. No reason! Nuke only had one play at QB. It worked...why not try it again at least once more? Someone answer this.

Are you morons delusional? Quit being so sensitive about Kiffin. Given what we have to work with at QB and WR, the playcalling was not good. I'm just telling it like it is.
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Fail. And Nuke is crazy irresponsible with the ball right now. His mistakes to touches ratio is higher than anyone on the team, including Crompton.
 
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SGMVols said:
You have no room to call anyone in this forum a moron when you have had innumerable epic failures on this board.
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Anyone who thinks 43 passes with Crompton and our butter finger receivers who can't run routes in a big SEC game is good playcalling is a moron.

Before the game none of us expected a higher pass to run ratio. Now you bufoons are back peddling saying this and saying that when the truth is no one here exp-ected Crompton would throw the ball 43 times in this huge SEC showdown. Even if we played Nuke the entire time at QB and run the Pahokee package with say 10 short dumps, passes, screens, we would have likely done a lot better earlier in this game. We are a running team not a throwing team.

Either way, Crompton throwing downfield equals forfeiting and everyone here knows it. AU's playcalling was MUCH more creative.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Anyone who thinks 43 passes with Crompton and our butter finger receivers who can't run routes in a big SEC game is good playcalling is a moron.

Before the game none of us expected a higher pass to run ratio. Now you bufoons are back peddling saying this and saying that when the truth is no one here exp-ected Crompton would throw the ball 43 times in this huge SEC showdown. Even if we played Nuke the entire time at QB and run the Pahokee package with say 10 short dumps, passes, screens, we would have likely done a lot better earlier in this game. We are a running team not a throwing team.

Either way, Crompton throwing downfield equals forfeiting and everyone here knows it. AU's playcalling was MUCH more creative.
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You're right, I'm sure this team has no experience defending the wildcat. And their ultra creative playcalling led them to a whopping 41 more yards and 3 more points than we had.
 
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SGMVols said:
LMFAO

We start 2 walk-ons and a converted TE on the O-line. Doesn't exactly scream competence to me...
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They held up pretty well last night and play every game a hell of a lot better than Crompton and the receivers who we tried to rely on so much. UCLA was their only bad game.
 
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LOL.....this is so funny to read. The posts are saying, "bad QB play" "poor receiver play", "inexperienced offensive line", "injured defensive players", "bad play calling". My take is that you are ALL correct. It was a total team failure last night. You can't lay the blame on any one position as to why we lost. All these players can do now is to concentrate on UGA and not let yesterday's game defeat us twice.
 
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You keep harping on the 43 passes thing like it's some sort of big deal. We ran the two minute drill at the end of the first half, and the 4th quarter was a two minute drill. He threw, what, 22 times in the 4th?

That means he only threw 23 times the rest of the game. Just over 7 times a quarter? Consider that probably 10 of those were in the 2min drill before the half, he only threw maybe 13 or 15 times in regular play.

We ran the ball plenty, considering they loaded the box every down. You just found a stat on the internet and decided you'd make a post. Not only do you have no clue what you are talking about, you act like it is inconceivable that Crompton can pass at all. I think I saw that we had nine dropped passes. That is more unacceptable than any playcalling, or quarterback play, and directly correlates to Crompton having had to continue to drop back and pass.
 
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Behuman13 said:
I agree.
There is no reason Crompton should be throwing 43 times.
Absolutely none.

Especially when our running game was averaging 6 yards a carry.
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Well there is one, we couldn't run the ball against Auburn which is surprising.
BTW Hardesty averaged 4.3 ypc not 6.
 
#45
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I just think it was the most aggrivating game I have see Tn. Play this year. Some one is sure enough resp. But there are only a few people on the team who are paid to make the correct calls. jmho
 
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Without a semi-balanced offense it will be very challenging for UT to beat anyone other than Memphis and Vandy. UT has be able to make opposing defenses play them more honest. 2/3 running and 1/3 passing will work, but only if the passing is reasonably productive and avoids turnovers.

Although Crompton made some bad throws against Auburn he did manage to not get picked off. The number of dropped passes -- the ones that truly should have been caught was shameful. When you've got a quarterback who is struggling the way Crompton has you simply cannot afford for receivers to drop balls like that. When I watch UT play, I see a passing game that is not in synch. QB and receivers are not on the same page, timing is off, etc.

IMO, CLK should pick out a fairly limited number of passing plays that are the best bets for Crompton and the receivers and work on ONLY those -- REPEATEDLY until they can execute them in synch much more consistently. The plays with the best chance of getting guys open that are the throws Crompton is best at making consistently and that are least likely to get picked if he misfires. Short to intermediate play action passes on first and second down will keep Crompton from getting as much rush pressure. UT should totally avoid passes behind the line of scrimmage that can result in negative yardage.

CLK must realize that doing less and doing it better is the best hope for getting a more viable passing game going. JMHO.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Obviously you have to throw it on third and long, but odds are it wouldn't be third and long so much if we didn;t try so many first and second down passes. The pass to run ratio was ridiculous. It's not like we have Cox at QB and Green at WR for example. And Cox isn't even that good. We have arguably the worst QB and group of receivers in the nation. There is no reason for 43 passes against a team with a mediocre run D.
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I haven't seen any statistics about this. But Todd Blackledge made a comment during the broadcast that he thought we should throw it more on first down. I noticed at least for a while after that comment that we really didn't throw it much on first down.
 
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What is it with the armchair quarterbacks today????? PEOPLE!!! Hardesty was hurting, and it was clear that he was hurting. The camera showed him leaned over holding his knee. We had to pass, there was pretty much no other option without further injury to Hardesty, especially since Bryce has not yet adjusted his running abilities to SEC play
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
No Fulmer fans here. Just people who realize Crompton throwing the ball two times more than Hardesty and BB running is atrocious. We are asking to lose. AU's run defense is far from elite.
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Yet we're a missed field goal and blocked extra point from the W.
 
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