Kiffin throws Lincoln under the bus?

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TennesseeT said:
So like Kiffin you believe that it's Lincoln's fault that UT lost the game for not disclosing his injury. But the thread is petty and I'm just trying to start stuff against Kiffin for saying that I don't agree with calling the guy out.

I don't have a problem with what Kiffin is doing (now that Crompton is playing decent anyway) but I do have a problem with saying you would have done something different had the kid kept you informed. That is of course if Kiffin actually said this!
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Kiffin never said it was lincolns fault. NEVER SAID THAT. You have a problem with something that never occurred. Is my grammar getting better?
 
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#52
alwaysorange81 said:
Dude why do have to resort to name calling? the last bastion of the troglodyte.
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Why do you question what color my blood runs because I find a problem with something that was claimed to have been stated by the coach?

You have yet to even offer your opinion of the statement if Kiffin actually said it! You don't believe he said it? If he did, you think it was ok? Anything relevant would be better than your big words with bad grammar!
 
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alwaysorange81 said:
Kiffin never said it was lincolns fault. NEVER SAID THAT. You have a problem with something that never occurred. Is my grammar getting better?
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Well duh he didn't say that! He supposedly said if he had know about the tweak during pregame he would have done something different. What is so hard to understand about what I am typing?
 
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TennesseeT said:
Why do you question what color my blood runs because I find a problem with something that was claimed to have been stated by the coach?

You have yet to even offer your opinion of the statement if Kiffin actually said it! You don't believe he said it? If he did, you think it was ok? Anything relevant would be better than your big words with bad grammer!
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grammar the word is spelled g.r.a.m.m.a.r. and even if Kiffin did say that he MIGHT have done something different had he known, he is only taking his coaches prerogative. It is in no way an indictment on Lincoln as you are so fervently trying to espouse. It is only his opinion as the head coach. I think by now we may have learned to trust that opinion. Now what exactly are the mistakes with my grammar anyway?
 
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TennesseeT said:
Well duh he didn't say that! He supposedly said if he had know about the tweak during pregame he would have done something different. What is so hard to understand about what I am typing?
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Wow man I cant believe you are arguing with people and these are the facts that you have to offer us. Then get all defensive when people dont read into a non-quote the same way you do. You have been on this site since 2007 and should know by now that the people always want direct quotes inorder to believe what is being said. If the writer doesnt give a direct quote then how do we actually know it was said. Everyone has agendas.
 
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How many more words are you gonna put in Kiffin's mouth? Even in your original post you said nothing about Kiffin blaming the loss on solely Lincoln, now you do. There were many other plays in this game we shoulda won on. The last kick just stands out. Let's move on to South Carolina...we'll get Bama next year!
 
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Not going to bother with the article, since it's apparently inconclusive, but if a kicker injures his leg during warmups and doesn't let the coach know, he deserves to be thrown under the bus a little. You're messing with one of the biggest variables he has to juggle -- how long a FG attempt to be comfortable with -- without him knowing about it.
 
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KCVol14 said:
Lincoln had been kicking within that range all week with consistency. He also had been making his kicks within that range during warmups. We were 5 yards within the predetermined range when the decision to kick was made. People need to quit trying to manufacture controversy.
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we have the best college coachs in the nation and some bama in disguise of a vol fan playing coach. kiffin we got your back.:eek:k::good!:
 
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On his TV show CLK said that he weighed running another play before the kick but due to the already high penalty count worried that they would draw another flag, putting Lincoln totally out of his range. It was obvious to everyone, CLK most of all, that Daniel couldn't process his kicks normally and Sullins couldn't hold the big man out, but at this point the choices were nil.
 
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To follow up, it seems that CLK, like all but two other SEC coaches, is sick of innept/corrupt officiating.
 
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VolinConcord said:
I am sorry to hear/read Lincoln is injured. My question is did this quad strain carry over from last season?
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Good post...Has Lincoln's injury carried over the last two years?
Go VOLS!

:eek:k:
 
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Etownvol said:
It's not his fault UT lost, but it's his fault UT didn't win. :)
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You Sir are correct...CLK has not thrown Jonathon Crompton, Daniel Lincoln, or any other Vol under the bus all year long...He is not doing it now. CLK said, "I got your back." TennesseeT, let it go!
Go VOLS!

:salute:
 
#66
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This is a non-issue. If he actually said what the author implied, why wasn't it quoted as well? I think this may be the case of slanting a comment to try and create a story.
 
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TennesseeT said:
On the home page there is any article in the Times Free Press about Daniel Lincoln keeping the faith. In it Kiffin refers to not knowing about the tweak of Lincolns quad muscle during pre-game warm-ups and says had he known about it he would have tried to run another play at the end of the game. It reads to me as if he's throwing Lincoln under the bus for not disclosing the "tweak" during warmups.

First off, Kiffin knew about the injury and has known for weeks that Lincoln wasn't 100%. He had a extra point blocked in the UGA game and has been kicking with a low trajectory for weeks and even people here have pointed it out.

Secondly, Kiffin was watching the game we all watched first hand. Lincoln didn't have the leg to make the 47 yarder and then kicks a 40+ right into the waist of a fat boy. Does he not ask Lincoln how he's feeling after that? Does he not question the ability or health of his already known to be injured kicker? No KIFFIN chooses to run the time off the clock and trotts out the kicker.

I'm fine with the call and the outcome but don't say had the kid told you something you would have done something different and basically place it on his shoulders. It's Kiffin job to know how the kicker is feeling and everyone in America knew it wasn't 100%. Don't throw the kid under the bus because everyone is questioning your playcalling at the end of the game!
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The more I read your threads, the more illogical your argument or stance becomes. I'm not sure what your stance is because you state something and then turn around and contradict it. I suggest you regroup your thoughts or just let it go.
 
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TennesseeT said:
On the home page there is any article in the Times Free Press about Daniel Lincoln keeping the faith. In it Kiffin refers to not knowing about the tweak of Lincolns quad muscle during pre-game warm-ups and says had he known about it he would have tried to run another play at the end of the game. It reads to me as if he's throwing Lincoln under the bus for not disclosing the "tweak" during warmups.

First off, Kiffin knew about the injury and has known for weeks that Lincoln wasn't 100%. He had a extra point blocked in the UGA game and has been kicking with a low trajectory for weeks and even people here have pointed it out.

Secondly, Kiffin was watching the game we all watched first hand. Lincoln didn't have the leg to make the 47 yarder and then kicks a 40+ right into the waist of a fat boy. Does he not ask Lincoln how he's feeling after that? Does he not question the ability or health of his already known to be injured kicker? No KIFFIN chooses to run the time off the clock and trotts out the kicker.

I'm fine with the call and the outcome but don't say had the kid told you something you would have done something different and basically place it on his shoulders. It's Kiffin job to know how the kicker is feeling and everyone in America knew it wasn't 100%. Don't throw the kid under the bus because everyone is questioning your playcalling at the end of the game!
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Lincoln has one job - to kick the ball. He does it poorly. If he were in the "real world" he would have a pink slip right now. If Lincoln had re-injured himself, then YES, he should have told the coach that he re-injured himself. Particularly the way that Lincoln kicks (poorly to begin with), someone can't really tell if he's kicking poorly because he's injured or if he's kicking poorly because he just sucks. Regardless, I haven't seen anyone question Kiffin's decision to kick the field goal.
 
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KCVol14 said:
CLK said on Vol Calls last night that Lincoln had tweaked the injury in warmups but didn't tell anybody. He also said he admired Lincoln's desire to play through the injury. I can't see Kiffin throwing anybody under the bus.
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Exactly. This guy is just making something out of absolutely nothing.
 
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secfanclub said:
The more I read your threads, the more illogical your argument or stance becomes. I'm not sure what your stance is because you state something and then turn around and contradict it. I suggest you regroup your thoughts or just let it go.
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Just because you think it's illogical may say more about you than it does about me. What's so confusing? The articles says that Kiffin said had Lincoln told him about the re-injury he would have ran another play instead of letting 30 seconds run off the clock. IMO that's basically saying that it was Lincoln's fault that the game ended how it did and had he been forthright with the info. it may have helped win the game.

I just don't see the reasoning in making the comment. What does it matter if you would do something different or not, fact is he didn't and it was his choice and he shouldn't put it on Lincoln. Don't have any problem with the call, the gameplan, the plays, etc. Just have a problem with this comment (which the author may have made up according to most)
 
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kiffinator13 said:
Exactly. This guy is just making something out of absolutely nothing.
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IMO it's not nothing. It's the head coach calling out the kicker to the media for not disclosing his re-injury and thereby costing the Vols the game.

In reality it doesn't matter. Kiffin should have known the kid couldn't make anything over 40 yds anyway. The kid's barely been getting extra points off the ground for weeks now.

It all falls back on the head coach and it's his fault and has nothing to do with Lincoln's failure to mention he tweaked his leg in warmups.
 
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