Kiffin throws Lincoln under the bus?

#26
#26
I am sorry to hear/read Lincoln is injured. My question is did this quad strain carry over from last season?
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TennesseeT said:
You win and lose as a team and a HFC should know how to answer questions without directing blame towards any one individual when answering questions. Kiffin is usually pretty good about this but failed to do so here IMO.

I'm not sure exactly what was said but the author says it was so I'm going to go with it. Kiffin should have never said that he would do something different if a player had kept him informed. It's Kiffins job to stay informed.
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Did you ever learn a lesson about taking candy from strangers?? Stop with the fake outrage you are no longer making any sense.
 
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utvolpj said:
you have yet to provide a quote from Kiffin saying had he known he would have run another play. Should be easy right?
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alwaysorange81 said:
You're going to have to show me where exactly Kiffin is QUOTED having said that.
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I read what the article said and I'm commenting on it. At first you guys say it doesn't matter he wasn't throwing him under the bus but now you are obsessed with a quote. If there is a direct quote (which I'm not gonna look for) is it going to change your mind?
 
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alwaysorange81 said:
You're going to have to show me where exactly Kiffin is QUOTED having said that.
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That's a good point. The author of the article states Kiffin said he would have called another play but doesn't provide a quote. So we have no idea what Kiffin actually said regarding this.
 
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TennesseeT said:
You win and lose as a team and a HFC should know how to answer questions without directing blame towards any one individual when answering questions. Kiffin is usually pretty good about this but failed to do so here IMO.

I'm not sure exactly what was said but the author says it was so I'm going to go with it. Kiffin should have never said that he would do something different if a player had kept him informed. It's Kiffins job to stay informed.
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I think you're throwing CLK under the bus. If you're gonna come in here quoting someone, how bout showing a link to that quote! CLK is proving he can coach, recruit and bring a team together and you Kiffin haters have to try and dig stuff up. And I dont care what CLK said about DL, there is no excuse to miss 3 FG in any game, much less an SEC game that you have a shot at winning. Gimme a break!
 
#32
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alwaysorange81 said:
Did you ever learn a lesson about taking candy from strangers?? Stop with the fake outrage you are no longer making any sense.
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I'm not outraged or angered at all. I read an article in which it says Kiffin said something. I have a problem with what was said and I'm commenting on it. This is the place for that right?
 
#33
#33
I have a problem with a kicker making 25% of his kicks when making ONE of them would have given us a WIN against a #1 ranked Alabama team in their house. It's not like Lincoln..I mean he normally would make at least one more of those kicks..unless he mistook Cody's man-tits as being the goal posts, and was aiming for the cleavage...I just don't get it. If he was hurt, he should've told someone IMO.
 
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TennesseeT said:
I'm not outraged or angered at all. I read an article in which it says Kiffin said something. I have a problem with what was said and I'm commenting on it. This is the place for that right?
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sure comment away. But have some basis in fact before you go flaming the Head Coach or be prepared for TRUE fans to call you out on it. You're entitled to you're opinion but we are also entitled to call your opinion baseless drivel.
 
#36
#36
Here's is a sure fire way to tell if there was intent in CLK's statement. First, find the bus driver. Next, ask the bus driver if, once under the bus,Coach Kiffin order the driver back and forth a couple times before saying it was ok to go park it!!
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#37
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alwaysorange81 said:
sure comment away. But have some basis in fact before you go flaming the Head Coach or be prepared for TRUE fans to call you out on it. You're entitled to you're opinion but we are also entitled to call your opinion baseless drivel.
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The article states that Kiffin said had he been informed of the situation with Lincolns quad he would have ran another play. That means had Lincoln told him he tweaked his quad during warmups that Kiffin would have done something different, that means it's Lincolns fault for not telling.

Now the author of the article may be mistating what Kiffin said but I'm not misreading.

And I'm real sure your more of a fan than anyone else on here at 8 in the morning.
 
#38
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TennesseeT said:
I'm not outraged or angered at all. I read an article in which the writer claims that Kiffin said something, but doesn't quote what he said. I have a problem with what the writer claims Kiffin said and I'm commenting on it. This is the place for that right?
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fyp. :hi:
 
#39
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alwaysorange81 said:
sure comment away. But have some basis in fact before you go flaming the Head Coach or be prepared for TRUE fans to call you out on it. You're entitled to you're opinion but we are also entitled to call your opinion baseless drivel.
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Oh, learn some grammar by the way. You come off as a TRUE idiot.
 
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Billy Antrim said:
fyp. :hi:
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I don't have a problem with that. That's basically what I've been saying. I was under the impression we could comment on article posted on the VN Homepage and discuss what the author said without having to clarify if what was stated was actually true or not.
 
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TennesseeT said:
The article states that Kiffin said had he been informed of the situation with Lincolns quad he would have ran another play. That means had Lincoln told him he tweaked his quad during warmups that Kiffin would have done something different, that means it's Lincolns fault for not telling.

Now the author of the article may be mistating what Kiffin said but I'm not misreading.

And I'm real sure your more of a fan than anyone else on here at 8 in the morning.
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I would love for somebody to show me where Kiffin said if he would have known about Lincoln tweaking his injury he would have made a different decision. I know I have never seen this statement.
 
#42
#42
Obviously, Lincoln is a mediocre kicker. We all learned that last year. Also, who was the kid that kicked a 40 something yarder in the spring game? Off topic, how is Rico? Anybody heard the latest on his injury.
 
#43
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KCVol14 said:
I would love for somebody to show me where Kiffin said if he would have known about Lincoln tweaking his injury he would have made a different decision. I know I have never seen this statement.
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Why would you quote a post in which I already explained myself regarding the same question you're asking?

So you think the author made it up? But, if Kiffin did say this then it is throwing Lincoln under the bus?
 
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DougVol said:
Obviously, Lincoln is a mediocre kicker. We all learned that last year. Also, who was the kid that kicked a 40 something yarder in the spring game? Off topic, how is Rico? Anybody heard the latest on his injury.
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Calling Lincoln mediocre is a slap in the face to mediocre kickers everywhere.
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#46
#46
It is the responsibility of the kicker to inform the coach about the condition of his leg. The head coach doesn't have the time to go up to each player and ask how his health is. The team has a physician who is there to help players with their injuries. The team physician gives his professional opinion and evaluation of the injury to the coach and then the coach decides what to do. The injured player must first inform the physician of the injury. I believe this thread is petty and is really an attempt to find any little thing against CLK. CLK is doing a good job coaching and he knows his football.
 
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TennesseeT said:
On the home page there is any article in the Times Free Press about Daniel Lincoln keeping the faith. In it Kiffin refers to not knowing about the tweak of Lincolns quad muscle during pre-game warm-ups and says had he known about it he would have tried to run another play at the end of the game. It reads to me as if he's throwing Lincoln under the bus for not disclosing the "tweak" during warmups.

First off, Kiffin knew about the injury and has known for weeks that Lincoln wasn't 100%. He had a extra point blocked in the UGA game and has been kicking with a low trajectory for weeks and even people here have pointed it out.

Secondly, Kiffin was watching the game we all watched first hand. Lincoln didn't have the leg to make the 47 yarder and then kicks a 40+ right into the waist of a fat boy. Does he not ask Lincoln how he's feeling after that? Does he not question the ability or health of his already known to be injured kicker? No KIFFIN chooses to run the time off the clock and trotts out the kicker.

I'm fine with the call and the outcome but don't say had the kid told you something you would have done something different and basically place it on his shoulders. It's Kiffin job to know how the kicker is feeling and everyone in America knew it wasn't 100%. Don't throw the kid under the bus because everyone is questioning your playcalling at the end of the game!
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He should throw him under the bus on account of him being the worst kicker to ever suite up for the big orange. I dont know how he ever got a scholarship here.
 
#49
#49
How is he throwing him under the bus by just stating that he didn't know that Lincoln tweaked his quad even more during the pre-game? During the game I thought that Kiffin should at least tried to run the ball one time to set it up in the middle of the field. But, if you expect the head coach to know when every single one of his players has a tweaked quad, hammy, groin, it's not always gonna happen. Some kids have to be dragged off the field when they are injured for anyone to know if anything is wrong. They're just not going to say anything about a little pull or injury.
 
#50
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secfanclub said:
It is the responsibility of the kicker to inform the coach about the condition of his leg. The head coach doesn't have the time to go up to each player and ask how his health is. The team has a physician who is there to help players with their injuries. The team physician gives his professional opinion and evaluation of the injury to the coach and then the coach decides what to do. The injured player must first inform the physician of the injury. I believe this thread is petty and is really an attempt to find any little thing against CLK. CLK is doing a good job coaching and he knows his football.
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So like Kiffin you believe that it's Lincoln's fault that UT lost the game for not disclosing his injury. But the thread is petty and I'm just trying to start stuff against Kiffin for saying that I don't agree with calling the guy out.

I don't have a problem with what Kiffin is doing (now that Crompton is playing decent anyway) but I do have a problem with saying you would have done something different had the kid kept you informed. That is of course if Kiffin actually said this!
 
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