Kiffin Reprimanded by SEC, as was Mullen (merged)

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Tidal Surge said:
You make some good points, GATechVOL. But didn't Slive give Meyer and Kiffin both a call and tell them to cool it with the public jabbing back and forth? IMO, that was probably appropriate action by Slive for what was going on between them.

I did point out in my post (quoted above) what I think are some of the "difference maker" things Kiffin did that are probably what made Slive threaten more than a reprimand if Kiffin swings a third strike.
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You really think it was appropriate? The first time Kiffin says something against the beloved Urban Meyer he gets a slap on the wrist (in front of the NATION). When Meyer questions Kiffin's coaching strategy as just "Trying to play to make it close".... That's a low blow. That's like saying Kiffin was quitting at the beginning and never wanted to win. If you've played sports before and are a competitive person then you would probably put that in the same lines as calling someone a "cheater", like Kiffin did.

It wasn't even behind closed doors. It was intentional. Meyer said the things he said INTENTIONALLY to "make a point". Did Slive make a point in his actions? I don't think so.

I agree that Kiffin should be reprimanded for what he said about the officiating, but it is true. Somebody needs to step up to the "big bad boys" in the SEC. This isn't about recruiting. This isn't about getting Tennessee's name out there. This is about integrity, and somebody needs to show it around the SEC and say when they are wrong, instead of putting blame on the coaches when they speak up.

One final thing that I cannot stand is that Kiffin has been nothing but complementary towards both Florida's and Alabama's programs. You do not need quotes because I know you've read the praise Kiffin has given both teams.

Where is the sportsmanship back? I always see other HIGH PROFILE teams say "well, (insert team) is a great team but we came out with the victory". On Saturday, the first words out of Nick Saban's mouth were "we were really tired". GIVE ME A BREAK.

People can talk all they want about Kiffin being "immature" and a "clown" but he tells it like it is. He doesn't hide behind excuses (Florida---the flu, and Alabama---being "tired"). Give credit where credit is due. I'm not saying I want Saban or Meyer to say UT is a "top program on the rise", but give them credit for fighting their asses off and giving them a game. That's all I want to hear.

I don't want to hear excuses.
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
Bad officiating is bad officiating and should be called out whether it affects the outcome of a game or not, I don't want referees on the field calling games that have proven that they can't even get the non game threatening calls right. I have absolutely no problem with CLK or any other coach expecting the officiating to be competent and fair and calling them out publicly when it isn't.
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Could not have stated it better. This is where I stand as well! :rock:
 
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I used to get nervous about a muffed punt every time we received. Now I get nervous that the ref's are gonna go crazy with the flags.
 
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GATechVOL said:
It's not an implication when these calls actually changed the game.
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Hypothetical alternative if the Doe play is caled a touchback:

MSU gets the ball on their 20. First play they throw a pick and Florida gets the TD that way.

Then, when Florida kicks, because of the extra dew that formed in the intervening 2 minutes, the MSU player fumbles the kick, Florida picks it up and scores again.

Now, down 17 (instead of 10), MSU tries to throw and goes three and out. Punt is shanked. Florida eats up the clocl with another TD drive.

So, had that Doe play been called a touchback, Florida wins 43-19.
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lawgator1 said:
Hypothetical alternative if the Doe play is caled a touchback:

MSU gets the ball on their 20. First play they throw a pick and Florida gets the TD that way.

Then, when Florida kicks, because of the extra dew that formed in the intervening 2 minutes, the MSU player fumbles the kick, Florida picks it up and scores again.

Now, down 17 (instead of 10), MSU tries to throw and goes three and out. Punt is shanked. Florida eats up the clocl with another TD drive.

So, had that Doe play been called a touchback, Florida wins 43-19.
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I honestly thought better would come from you. At this point it is like arguing with a wall.
 
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bambamman said:
It is not Slive that is the douchebag... it is your childish and immature coach, yeah the same one fired at Oakland, yeah the same one that said he would sing Rocky Top all night long after he beat Florida this year... he manipulates the heck out of you sheepish Vol fans. He says just what you want to hear. He has you guys by the testicles and you don't even know it. He is an embarrassment to the SEC and if you are not careful, he will make Tennessee an embarrassment nationally...
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Pot meet kettle on the embarrassment thing.....:good!:

By Gentry Estes, Mobile Press-Register
October 13, 2009, 11:01AM

The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a "serial repeat violator" with an "abysmal infractions track record" and an "extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA," in responding to the school's textbook appeal, according to documents released today.

Now STFU and be gone....
 
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lawgator1 said:
Hypothetical alternative if the Doe play is caled a touchback:

MSU gets the ball on their 20. First play they throw a pick and Florida gets the TD that way.

Then, when Florida kicks, because of the extra dew that formed in the intervening 2 minutes, the MSU player fumbles the kick, Florida picks it up and scores again.

Now, down 17 (instead of 10), MSU tries to throw and goes three and out. Punt is shanked. Florida eats up the clocl with another TD drive.

So, had that Doe play been called a touchback, Florida wins 43-19.
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Ok. Hypothetical alternative if there hadn't been an unsportsmanlike call against Arkansas. Florida doesn't score on their next play. Instead it takes an extra 2:30 for them to put the ball in the end zone. Arkansas runs the clock and is able to attempt a field goal to win the game. Maybe it goes through, maybe it doesn't and they go to OT. Either way, the outcome has been affected.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Hypothetical alternative if the Doe play is caled a touchback:

MSU gets the ball on their 20. First play they throw a pick and Florida gets the TD that way.

Then, when Florida kicks, because of the extra dew that formed in the intervening 2 minutes, the MSU player fumbles the kick, Florida picks it up and scores again.

Now, down 17 (instead of 10), MSU tries to throw and goes three and out. Punt is shanked. Florida eats up the clocl with another TD drive.

So, had that Doe play been called a touchback, Florida wins 43-19.
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And everyone rests peacefully, knowing that the refs didn't impact the outcome of the game.
 
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GmanTN said:
Slive will probably be in the replay booth at the largest cocktail party so everything can go as planned.
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Does he wear a Nehru jacket and monocle and scratch a fluffy white cat as he says "Everything is going according to plan...":)
 
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I'm getting really tired of these officials being protected. Why is it that they don't have to answer questions or criticism? Why are you not allowed to question them? After a game, each official should have to sit down with the media and explain their questionable calls they made during game. I admire Kiffin and every other coach who has spoken out against them. It's the only way to get through at this point. If Slive doesn't like that, then maybe he should figure out another way for the officials to be held accountable. Until then, expect more of the same.
 
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Wanna voice your displeasure at the punishment dolled out to CLK? Here's the address for the SEC commissioner in Birmingham. It's worth a stamp and the time to me to let him know I don't approve of HIM!

2201 Richard Arrington Jr. Blvd. N.
Birmingham, AL. 35203

Ph. 205-458-3000
Fax 205-458-3031
 
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You know...this "officialgate" has been so blatant that fans from most schools have lost all fath that games will be called fairly. Reprimanding Kiffin for speaking the truth is just WRONG!!! I'm sure many coaches have approached this problem by going through the correct process and it's obvious nothing has been done about it. What else is a coach to do?

We all know which teams have recieved the most benefit from these bad/non calls. Is it coincidence that they are the top 2 teams?
I think Rivals even has a thread called Bama and Fla have the same candidate for heisman....Picture of an official. lol
 
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OWB said:
I'm getting really tired of these officials being protected. Why is it that they don't have to answer questions or criticism? Why are you not allowed to question them? After a game, each official should have to sit down with the media and explain their questionable calls they made during game. I admire Kiffin and every other coach who has spoken out against them. It's the only way to get through at this point. If Slive doesn't like that, then maybe he should figure out another way for the officials to be held accountable. Until then, expect more of the same.
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Exactly. If they would be held accountable or be accessible to questioning it could squash some of this conspiracy stuff.

They should take notes from guys like Tim Tschida of MLB. His press conference after one of the postseason games this year was stand-up. Even Tim McClelland manned up to the mic. I respected the hell out of that and there is no one that despises McClelland as much as I do.

But this "Green-jerseying" of the officials is putting a black-eye on the game.
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volfan4evr said:
Wanna voice your displeasure at the punishment dolled out to CLK? Here's the address for the SEC commissioner in Birmingham. It's worth a stamp and the time to me to let him know I don't approve of HIM!

2201 Richard Arrington Jr. Blvd. N.
Birmingham, AL. 35203

Ph. 205-458-3000
Fax 205-458-3031
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While I'm not happy that anyone has been reprimanded for their comments, technically Slive was within the rules to reprimand them. The problem is that the refs are making the bad calls in the first place and Slive doesn't seem to care. The suspension of the first crew only came after the national uproar.

That said, don't call/write and complain that Kiffin was repremanded, simply say that you aren't happy with the state of officiating.
 
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Re Lawgator's assertion that the calls wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, we just saw this weekend that style points matter and cost Bama in the polls. UF loses significant style points the last two weeks alone if the officials get the calls right. I don't concede that the Arky game wasn't, in part at least, decided by the officials, by the way.
 
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GmanTN said:
jmmccarver21 said:
I was an optician for 15 yrs, I can fix your sight problem. The back of Jones jersey looks the same in all the pictures, (bunched up) but I can take the pics into photoshop and lighten them to prove it. Your boy should have been flagged pure and simple. I assure you it is your crimson glasses affecting your vision.
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I can see why your no longer one because if you can't see his hand pulling his jersey than you need to treat yourself.
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bambamman said:
It is not Slive that is the douchebag... it is your childish and immature coach, yeah the same one fired at Oakland, yeah the same one that said he would sing Rocky Top all night long after he beat Florida this year... he manipulates the heck out of you sheepish Vol fans. He says just what you want to hear. He has you guys by the testicles and you don't even know it. He is an embarrassment to the SEC and if you are not careful, he will make Tennessee an embarrassment nationally...
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I love how the "embarassment to the SEC" beat your team in EVERY way except the scoreboard. Your Scared, Saban's scared, and, oh yeah, they're TIRED too!
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In the comments section of the article I posted

"I'm a Tide fan, and I agree with Kiffin.I was at the game, and I said the EXACT same thing Kiffin did. Terrance Cody absolutely should've been called for unsportsmanlike conduct. The play WASN'T over, the ball WASN'T dead, and Cody removed his helmet and threw it. That's blatant unsportsmanlike conduct, the game can't end on a defensive penalty, and the Vols should've gotten another try 15 yards closer."
 
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