Kiffin putting UT's money where his mouth is

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Good read and as sad as it is to say it looks more favorably on tennessee's staff than most of the articles in knoxville papers.
 
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Good article, thanks for posting.

I think what Kiffin did was brilliant. Look at Saban at Bama. He makes what, $4 mill or more? He can't keep assistants either. Why pay the head coach a lot and put a bunch of under paid assistants around him. Pay the HC less and put a bunch of great assistant coaches around him that wants to do a good job and isn't looking to jump ship at any offer. And people wonder how Kiffin hired possibly the best coaching staff in the country???
 
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Still behind florida, alabama and lsu for overall salary. I think it was a brilliant strategy. All the griping is unjustified, tennessee has the money to be right up there with those other three, so i don't get all the fuss over it.
I don't care what anyone says we took some good recruiters and coaches from teams around the league and they're crying. Let them cry, cry me a river. If it works, you're right it might change some AD's minds about how they structure things, but don't expect head coaches taking less money to be a recurring thing.
 
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Overall, it was a very good article. The sad thing about this article is that this point has been made about 500 times on various threads on this board.
 
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Good read. I think what the ADs are really fretting over is they're going to end up paying the head coach 4 mil per AND then have to pay coordinators like Strong a million a piece. Right now UT has a different model but if CLK racks up a few good seasons I'm sure he'll get a raise.

The one caveat on all this though is MLK's salary is a special case. If he were to leave UT would probably replace him with someone making aobut half what he currently makes.
 
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VolinConcord said:
Overall, it was a very good article. The sad thing about this article is that this point has been made about 500 times on various threads on this board.
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I realize that, but the angle about UF and Charlie Strong had not been brought up, that I saw.

I still can't understand why he isn't a head coach somewhere. Making what he makes, he is going to be ripe for the picking if someone is willing to double or triple his salary, which seems likely under a Kiffin-type plan.


triadvolfan said:
Good read. I think what the ADs are really fretting over is they're going to end up paying the head coach 4 mil per AND then have to pay coordinators like Strong a million a piece. Right now UT has a different model but if CLK racks up a few good seasons I'm sure he'll get a raise.

The one caveat on all this though is MLK's salary is a special case. If he were to leave UT would probably replace him with someone making aobut half what he currently makes.
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My guess is that over the next few years, if this holds, the assistants will see big increases, at or very close to a million. The head coaches can't expect to make 20 times that, of course, but it will probably lead to some inlfation for them, too.

Question: How long until we have our first six million dollar man? I say less than five years.
 
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triadvolfan said:
Good read. I think what the ADs are really fretting over is they're going to end up paying the head coach 4 mil per AND then have to pay coordinators like Strong a million a piece. Right now UT has a different model but if CLK racks up a few good seasons I'm sure he'll get a raise.

The one caveat on all this though is MLK's salary is a special case. If he were to leave UT would probably replace him with someone making aobut half what he currently makes.
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I doubt they'd pay another guy half of his salary. I think the way they looked at it was Monte's salary is basically tied in with lane's. Two heads are better than one sort of thing. Either way, getting monte kiffin was huge for us. Lost in all this fuss over lane is the fact monte kiffin is a defensive legend and rightfully so. No disrespect to john chavis, but he isn't monte and is nowhere near his level.
 
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I definitely think the CLK and CMK came as a package. I think the UT fans are the only ones that get it. When the figure came out on how much the assistants were getting paid, there was something negative written about it everyday it seemed like. What was never mentioned(except for this article) was what the total price of the coaching staff is. Another thing CLK said he was going to do is put his bonus money(i.e. winning games, BCS appearance, conf. title, etc.) back into the staff. Once CMK is gone and given that he is successful, his salary will increase closer to $3 mill.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I realize that, but the angle about UF and Charlie Strong had not been brought up, that I saw.

I still can't understand why he isn't a head coach somewhere. Making what he makes, he is going to be ripe for the picking if someone is willing to double or triple his salary, which seems likely under a Kiffin-type plan.





My guess is that over the next few years, if this holds, the assistants will see big increases, at or very close to a million. The head coaches can't expect to make 20 times that, of course, but it will probably lead to some inlfation for them, too.

Question: How long until we have our first six million dollar man? I say less than five years.
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My bad LG...My post was not intended to call you out or your post, it was meant to call out the media as a whole. It amazes me that most of us regular folk have more insight than most of the writers in the media.
 
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Cartervol said:
I don't care what anyone says we took some good recruiters and coaches from teams around the league and they're crying. Let them cry, cry me a river. If it works, you're right it might change some AD's minds about how they structure things, but don't expect head coaches taking less money to be a recurring thing.
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I bet it's becomes a negotiating ploy when those Head Coaches are signed or go after big raises.Not to Mention all those assistant coaches.
I bet the Tennessee Model will be quoted and discussed by Evey college football program in the country.If the Universities don't bring it up,the assistant coaches will.
 
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tennisguy said:
Good article, thanks for posting.

I think what Kiffin did was brilliant. Look at Saban at Bama. He makes what, $4 mill or more? He can't keep assistants either. Why pay the head coach a lot and put a bunch of under paid assistants around him. Pay the HC less and put a bunch of great assistant coaches around him that wants to do a good job and isn't looking to jump ship at any offer. And people wonder how Kiffin hired possibly the best coaching staff in the country???
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:good!:
 
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In all honesty, journalist must be dumb as rocks,, we have only been writing about this since last year and what effect this will have on the other programs like LSU,BAMA, FLORIDA, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, ETC.

I am almost positve this same topic was the title of several old postings made before Christmas when things were really slow.

The article was pleasant enough and once again featured our good ole coach. I don't think Charlie strong as good as he is can expect Monte Money but should expect a HC spot sometime soon,, he seems like a very driven coach.
 
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tennisguy said:
Bob Stoops has already been called the six million dollar man. Apparently, with bonuses he made that last year. What's sad, he can't even win a bowl game.

http://newsok.com/article/3207001/1203577493
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To be fair, he does pretty well in the rest of the games. I think you can knock him for boise st. and wvu, but I think you can knock a guy (stoops or tressel) for losing in the BCS. The fact that they made it that far indicates that the coach was doing a pretty fair job.
 
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Tampavolz said:
In all honesty, journalist must be dumb as rocks,, we have only been writing about this since last year and what effect this will have on the other programs like LSU,BAMA, FLORIDA, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, ETC.

I am almost positve this same topic was the title of several old postings made before Christmas when things were really slow.

The article was pleasant enough and once again featured our good ole coach. I don't think Charlie strong as good as he is can expect Monte Money but should expect a HC spot sometime soon,, he seems like a very driven coach.
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To say that all journalists are dumb is overinclusive. Like any field there are good ones and bad ones. That being said, journalism is a pretty easy field to get into. You don't need to be ivy league, cum laude material to get a job as a beat writer.
 
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i think it will raise questions for several coordinators out there.

and i think the one thing that it does for us as a program is that it lets the college football world know that we value good coaching, not just at the head job.

let's face it, Monte is not going to be here forever, there's a certain understanding that his time on the Hill is going to be limited. but it should make it easier when, and i stress when, we have to go out and seek replacements for coordinators and position coaches, given the current circumstance with this groups salary packages.

anyway, for me, it's also nice to be on the front end of what could be a new trend in the sport in stead of just following suit.

and the beneficiaries of that are guys like Strong. the precedent is set, and someone will step up to the plate and do the same thing.

the question is, will any head coaches take the pay cut likely needed to make room for such a move?
 
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Not intended to raise the ire of Fulmerites across the nation, but one could argue that David Cutcliffe was grossly underpaid for what he contributed to Tennessee's success.

For all the talk about Lane being classless he deserves credit for how he assembled this coaching staff.
 
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Lexvol said:
Not intended to raise the ire of Fulmerites across the nation, but one could argue that David Cutcliffe was grossly underpaid for what he contributed to Tennessee's success.

For all the talk about Lane being classless he deserves credit for how he assembled this coaching staff.
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They should have done whatever needed to be done to prevent him from going to Duke. But I have to say, I am happy they didn't b/c we probably wouldn't have CLK if they had.
 
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Lexvol said:
Not intended to raise the ire of Fulmerites across the nation, but one could argue that David Cutcliffe was grossly underpaid for what he contributed to Tennessee's success.

For all the talk about Lane being classless he deserves credit for how he assembled this coaching staff.
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Do you think Chavis should have held out for more money at LSU? He got what, 500 g ? Which was a raise for him but I think he could have gotten more using the ole my defense was 4th in the nation argument.Plus the current model put in place by Kiffin. They were willing to pay Coach O more than him. Chavis can also thank Cut for the raises he received from UT.
 
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