kiffin playcalling

#26
#26
If I didn't know better I would think last years coaches where calling the plays. The 3rd & 4th down calls leave a lot to the imagination:banghead2::banghead2:
 
#28
#28
crapton left lane no choice.. he couldnt complete a pass to save his life. Hell he almost missed the ground on the grounding attempt.
 
#29
#29
Run off guard, run off tackle, throw it in the turf, run off guard, run off tackle, throw it in the turf... sprinkle some INTs in there.. and you have a great gameplan
 
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#30
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VolinMichigan said:
You can't fault the playcalling 100%. Saying "oh well if we would have pitched it we would have scored a td," is questionable because our like played like **** today. Had we run a sweep like so many people have suggested there was a good chance a lb could have gotten through and blown it up in the backfield. Then we wouldn't have gotten that safety then we really would have been dead in the water. Yes some of the calling looked repetetive and predictable and that is the coaches fault. But it's hard to blame the coaches when the players don't do their jobs. My question is why didn't we put some more receivers on the line to at least force the defense to not stack 8 in the box. Or run off tackle out of the shotgun?
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There was goin to be a safety regardless..they were not going to punt out of the endzone!! And if they did that was positive for us!
 
#31
#31
The play calls at the end may not have been so bad except that they chose to call Jones' number. He never should have been the go to guy in this game. Decoy, maybe.

Hancock seemed like he wanted to make plays today and the coaches should have leaned on him in this situation.

From the outside it makes sense, get the ball to your most experienced and gifted playmaker but a blind man on a horse could have seen that Jones was not fit. It was a young coach making an iffy decision and he will learn from it.

The loss is painful, but it may benefit both the coaches and players in the long run.
 
#33
#33
3 yards..... THREE YARDS.... THREE YARDS...and we win... next week we'll just hope to gain 3 yards in four quarters not 2 downs!!
 
#34
#34
You can't blame the play calling. Crompton threw 3 INT's and is on pace for 25 INT's this year. At least Kiffin recognized that he couldn't rely on Crompton to pass the ball and started running the ball. I think Oku and Brown should have gotten more touches - we need playmakers. Crompton will likely throw another 3-4 INT's against the Gators and he will be done.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Seriously?
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You don't think so? turn it over to the D, see if they can make a play? I know we were having a little success running at the end there, but...really, I'm the only person who thinks kick the fg and get the ball back?
 
#36
#36
Come on Vol fans!! Every time Crompton tried to throw the ball down the field, he either over threw his WR or threw it behind his WR. One of those over thrown balls went for an INT. Crompton just couldn't make the throws. So, maybe the 4th and 1 play should have been a pitch but we should be able to get one 1 yard. Besides, the Defense was tired and we were running the ball pretty well on that drive. We can nick and pick the play calling all day long, but for once in a very long time, it didn't get us beat. IT was our QB play! and those turnovers...Crompton has to be the worse QB that has ever played at UT...and maybe the SEC Period...
 
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vol66 said:
You don't think so? turn it over to the D, see if they can make a play? I know we were having a little success running at the end there, but...really, I'm the only person who thinks kick the fg and get the ball back?
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No, I definitely don't think so. You're inside the 5, you've got to go for the win.

There's no reason to think Tennessee could have kicked the field goal, played D, and moved the ball back into reasonable field goal territory with only 2 timeouts and 2 minutes left on the clock.

The decision to go for it was the right thing to do.
 
#38
#38
Ok folks, now I'm no football guru but here are some observations. We have a VETERAN left side of the offensive line. The right side of the line gets penetrated very easily, which would more than likely result in a small gain, no gain, or possibly loss of yards(even with our talented backfield). We sure as hell couldn't pass the ball tonight to take pressure off the run, that would have led to more completions...to UCLA. We HAD to play smashmouth football and run the football a lot, which means we HAD to run to the strong side of our offensive line(the left side).
 
#39
#39
1world1love said:
The play calls at the end may not have been so bad except that they chose to call Jones' number. He never should have been the go to guy in this game. Decoy, maybe.

Hancock seemed like he wanted to make plays today and the coaches should have leaned on him in this situation.

From the outside it makes sense, get the ball to your most experienced and gifted playmaker but a blind man on a horse could have seen that Jones was not fit. It was a young coach making an iffy decision and he will learn from it.

The loss is painful, but it may benefit both the coaches and players in the long run.
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DO you really think Kiffin told Crompton to look at Jones and no one else..It just a classic example of Crompton looking at one WR and no one else. He made of his mind where he was going to throw the ball before it was snaped. I thought vol fans knew more about football then this.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
No, I definitely don't think so. You're inside the 5, you've got to go for the win.

There's no reason to think Tennessee could have kicked the field goal, played D, and moved the ball back into reasonable field goal territory with only 2 timeouts and 2 minutes left on the clock.

The decision to go for it was the right thing to do.
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Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. They had the ball at the 30 or so, with over 4 min. left and went for it on 4th down there. Kick the FG here, with the TO's and I think the D makes a play or they have to punt. sorry.
 
#41
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Wadevol said:
I am one of the people who thinks crompton blew the game for us but did anyone else get the feeling that we ran the ball poorly due to repetitive playcalling? I know the oline didnt play well but we ran it up the middle or to the left side EVERY TIME. Nothing to the right or pitch plays toward the end of the game. Exhibit A, the 4th and goal from the 1 why not pitch it or somehow trust crompton to complete 1 pass and not run it up the middle. Thoughts?
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Crompton handcuffed Kiffin in the 2nd half.

UCLA was run-blitzing on every play because they knew we couldn't pass. Their defensive motto was "We will stack the box against the run, and you will have to beat us with the pass. Can you do that?"

And our answer was "No."
 
#42
#42
volfootball11 said:
DO you really think Kiffin told Crompton to look at Jones and no one else..It just a classic example of Crompton looking at one WR and no one else. He made of his mind where he was going to throw the ball before it was snaped. I thought vol fans knew more about football then this.
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No, of course not, but the play was obviously setup for Jones specifically. Kiffin also knew that Crompton was not going to/able to look off Jones yet still called a play requiring him to do so.

I am not making excuses for Crompton as I would have benched him at the half, but I think it was a mistake to have Jones on the field at that point. Especially since the same thing happened just a few seconds before.
 
#43
#43
1world1love said:
No, of course not, but the play was obviously setup for Jones specifically. Kiffin also knew that Crompton was not going to/able to look off Jones yet still called a play requiring him to do so.

I am not making excuses for Crompton as I would have benched him at the half, but I think it was a mistake to have Jones on the field at that point. Especially since the same thing happened just a few seconds before.
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Interesting quote from Kiffin:

On the possibility of pulling Jonathan Crompton at quarterback:
"No. I thought I didn't do a very good job today of taking care of Jonathan. I tried to stay with the run game a lot of times as you can see with the lopsided ratio of run-to-pass. I think we ran the ball 44 times or something. We've got to do better. I think that showed today, which is my fault for playing some players who haven't practiced enough because of injuries and hoping they would go out there and make plays. That really makes Jonathan suffer. So we didn't do very many good things around him.
 
#44
#44
Wadevol said:
I am one of the people who thinks crompton blew the game for us but did anyone else get the feeling that we ran the ball poorly due to repetitive playcalling? I know the oline didnt play well but we ran it up the middle or to the left side EVERY TIME. Nothing to the right or pitch plays toward the end of the game. Exhibit A, the 4th and goal from the 1 why not pitch it or somehow trust crompton to complete 1 pass and not run it up the middle. Thoughts?
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a toss on fourth and 1?
 
#45
#45
Wadevol said:
I am one of the people who thinks crompton blew the game for us but did anyone else get the feeling that we ran the ball poorly due to repetitive playcalling? I know the oline didnt play well but we ran it up the middle or to the left side EVERY TIME. Nothing to the right or pitch plays toward the end of the game. Exhibit A, the 4th and goal from the 1 why not pitch it or somehow trust crompton to complete 1 pass and not run it up the middle. Thoughts?
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Yes, YES, and YES
Our Offensive Coordinator/Play Caller has NO Imagination what so ever! Does the playbook consist of 1 Page or what? No Sweeps, NO Screens, No Reverses/Trick Plays. Just straight up the middle or a pass, which is a TOSS UP with Crumplin-Crompton. Either to the defense or in the grass.

Defense you did a Good Job! As usual.

Oh what will Super Koach Kiffin do now? What will he say?
 
#46
#46
Voln3d said:
Does the playbook consist of 1 Page or what? No Sweeps, NO Screens, No Reverses/Trick Plays.
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I saw screens and some sweeps being run. Either the 2nd or 3rd down play near the goal line was a toss sweep . . . but don't let that get in the way of a good rant.
 
#47
#47
Jaytrain5 said:
Didn't have much choice. Crompton dug too large a hole. A pass play could have resulted in a sack and more long yardage situations, or another turnover...we obviously couldn't afford any of those outcomes.

Had to pound it, protect the ball, and keep our down/distance reasonable.
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Oh geez, you think we couldn't handle ANOTHER Turnover.

They were just waiting for us as you NOW know.
 
#48
#48
GAVol said:
I saw screens and some sweeps being run. Either the 2nd or 3rd down play near the goal line was a toss sweep . . . but don't let that get in the way of a good rant.
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Thanks for your support! I do need to rant. OOPS, just kicked the cat!
They did have some good recievers in their Defensive Backfield. Possible Recruits?
 
#49
#49
Voln3d said:
Oh geez, you think we couldn't handle ANOTHER Turnover.

They were just waiting for us as you NOW know.
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No, genius. We couldn't have handled another turnover. Then we wouldn't have even had the chance to win the game at the end. Glad you're so supportive of the Vols and this program
 
#50
#50
When it was 4th and goal. instead of up the gut again. I would have liked what USC just did to Luckeyes speed on the edge
 
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