Kiffin doesn't care if he offends people

#52
#52
Considering Gay Nation thinks September's game is already over and they'll put up crazy points, if they don't win by at least 49+ points, they deserve a visit from the faildozer.
 
#54
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lawgator1 said:
There is a dangerous trend emerging here. Having a chip on your shoulder is one thing, and that's okay. And even making a mistake and fessing up, that's fine.

But taking cheap shots and then having people excuse it? Or worse yet applaud you for it?

This is taking on a new and very ugly life of its own at UT. Hope someone has the smarts to let Kiffin know that, despite what they may be saying, it is not cool to outright literally call another coach a "cheater" and be wrong about it.

Its not cute anymore and if he mistakenly thinks that he's now given license to offend by false accusation, then I suspect it will be UT that regrets it, not the rest of the conference.
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Put a dime on your head. You're needle is obviously stuck. We KNOW; he called your whinin' coach a cheater.
For saying the exact same thing over and over and over and over again you are now being officially reprimanded by the VolNation. Now apologize and move on. You know, like Lane and the rest of the world have.
 
#55
#55
What many of our rivals don't understand is that what happens with our team chemistry, attitude conditioning and coaching b/n now and our first game will have much more bearing on what happens with our wins and losses than what Kiffin ever says in public.
 
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JSmith24 said:
Kiffin will beat Florida first year guarantee
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See above. These are the people who won't be happy once reality sets in.


TylernLuke said:
Put a dime on your head. You're needle is obviously stuck. We KNOW; he called your whinin' coach a cheater.
For saying the exact same thing over and over and over and over again you are now being officially reprimanded by the VolNation. Now apologize and move on. You know, like Lane and the rest of the world have.
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You guys are the ones who keep posting self-congratulatory articles and Pealr and Summit giving Kiffin some atta-boys for this. The rest of the world is ready to say put up or shut up. Its the Vols fans who keep this thing alive by continuing to try to change the story from how their newbie coach screwed up to how their newbie coach don't take nuthin from nobody.



Mullet Vol said:
What many of our rivals don't understand is that what happens with our team chemistry, attitude conditioning and coaching b/n now and our first game will have much more bearing on what happens with our wins and losses than what Kiffin ever says in public.
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1000 % correct. Amen.
 
#59
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lawgator1 said:
This part is most definitely true. While expectations will be somewhat muted this year for your team, if you get blown out by Florida, Alabama, UGA, and lose to someone like Vandy or Kentucky, there are going to be a lot of Vols fans who look back on this moment as a harbinger of ill-preparedness rather than hopeful bravado.
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As opposed to the last four years where we got blownout and were quiet about it? What's the difference? I much rather go down swinging.

Bottomline is that Kiffin has to win. If he doesn't then we just start over in four or five years and he knows it. That fact will never change regardless of what he says.
 
#60
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lawgator1 said:
Its the Vols fans who keep this thing alive by continuing to try to change the story from how their newbie coach screwed up to how their newbie coach don't take nuthin from nobody.
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Ironically, if a Gator hadn't dignified the trash talk in the first place with a snooty sounding press release, there's a pretty good chance the story would have been over within 24 hours.
 
#61
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Mullet Vol said:
As opposed to the last four years where we got blownout and were quiet about it? What's the difference? I much rather go down swinging.

Bottomline is that Kiffin has to win. If he doesn't then we just start over in four or five years and he knows it. That fact will never change regardless of what he says.
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I guess it depends on what it looks like. I mean, if UT comes out fighting and are simply outmanned for a year, that's not going to be seen by most as a reflection on Kiffin. One of his upsdies appears to be that he and his staff are going to be able to recruit very well, so that's not the issue.

But if they make lots of mistakes, turnovers, penalties, if they are out of shape, get winded, lose games they should win, look like crap on special teams, then that will be the tell tale sign of things to come.

Look, I have no clue whether Kiffin can manage this or not. For all I know, in a few years UT could very well be a consistent competitor for the BCS (or whatever its called at that time). Kiffin could become the most sought after coach of all time after leading UT back to prominence.

All I am saying is let's not give him credit for things he hasn't done yet. Cautious optimism, not blind faith, would seem to be the order of the day. And Kiffin's comments the other day will not score a single point on the field come September.
 
#62
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lawgator1 said:
There is a dangerous trend emerging here. Having a chip on your shoulder is one thing, and that's okay. And even making a mistake and fessing up, that's fine.

But taking cheap shots and then having people excuse it? Or worse yet applaud you for it?

This is taking on a new and very ugly life of its own at UT. Hope someone has the smarts to let Kiffin know that, despite what they may be saying, it is not cool to outright literally call another coach a "cheater" and be wrong about it.

Its not cute anymore and if he mistakenly thinks that he's now given license to offend by false accusation, then I suspect it will be UT that regrets it, not the rest of the conference.
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Get over it, it's a freaking game first of all. Dangerous trend? What danger is involved? Like he said, he didn't know urban and the gators were so whiny so he probably won't talk about them anymore. But if he did, who cares? Life will go on, many more games will be played, and Tennessee will eventually circle around and be on top again(hopefully sooner then later). That's the way college football works. We are Tennessee fans and no matter your opinion or what you say it is not going to affect us, we love the university and their is nothing you can do about it. If your plan is to get on here and change our mind about anything then you will fail each an every time you post. Go Vols
 
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#63
lg1, did you get a magic 8 ball for christmas? Did Marty McFly bring you a sports encyclopedia back from the future for the years 2009 and 2010?

You got a lot of ifs and thens in your posts. It is February. Tebow may be hurt along with half the whole offensive and defensive lines by the time the 2 teams meet. What THEN?
 
#64
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lawgator1 said:
I guess it depends on what it looks like. I mean, if UT comes out fighting and are simply outmanned for a year, that's not going to be seen by most as a reflection on Kiffin. One of his upsdies appears to be that he and his staff are going to be able to recruit very well, so that's not the issue.

But if they make lots of mistakes, turnovers, penalties, if they are out of shape, get winded, lose games they should win, look like crap on special teams, then that will be the tell tale sign of things to come.

Look, I have no clue whether Kiffin can manage this or not. For all I know, in a few years UT could very well be a consistent competitor for the BCS (or whatever its called at that time). Kiffin could become the most sought after coach of all time after leading UT back to prominence.

All I am saying is let's not give him credit for things he hasn't done yet. Cautious optimism, not blind faith, would seem to be the order of the day. And Kiffin's comments the other day will not score a single point on the field come September.
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and I don't think they will for Fl either.
 
#65
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lawgator1 said:
All I am saying is let's not give him credit for things he hasn't done yet.
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I think most people around here are giving him credit for things he has already done (save that guy already guaranteeing wins). Changing the attitude and culture of this team. Increasing conditioning and accountability. Those may or may not equate to instant winning, but it sure as hell is a better start than we have been used to in the past.
 
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ridethelightening said:
Really? Because all lg1 has talked about is how bad it's going to be next year because of what Kiffin said. Seems to me, Kiffin's comments are going to score 800 points next year for Florida.
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Once the game starts, none of the players are going to be thinking about what Kiffin said. The fans..now that's another story, but I don't think it will in any way affect what the score of the game is.
 
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To lawgator - I can't speak for everyone else, but where my confidence comes from with the new staff is that I believe this staff is hungry. The former staff got very complacent. They were outworked and outcoached by the new kids in the SEC. This staff is different.

They have already challenged the team physically. Quotes from the players can backed this up. They are running a full month early than the old staff had them running.

They are non-stop as far recruiting goes. We have the largest recruiting budget in the country and have, by many recruiting experts, one the most talented recruiting staffs in the country. Putting those two together is a deadly combo.

We have one of the best defensive minds in the game. The NFL game that is. If you don't think that the college game will be a little slower than NFL for Monte then you fooling yourself.

This is not the same old Tennessee. I fully believe this staff will not be outworked and I think that will rub off on the players. Many of our rivals got used to a Tennessee team that was ill prepared, under conditioned and less talented than our rivals. From what I have seen so far that old Tennessee team is fading away.
 
#70
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onevolfan, I hope you know I was being sarcastic. But, if we took lg1's advice, I guess UT would have to fold up shop and run for the hills.
 
#71
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lawgator1 said:
There is a dangerous trend emerging here. Having a chip on your shoulder is one thing, and that's okay. And even making a mistake and fessing up, that's fine.

But taking cheap shots and then having people excuse it? Or worse yet applaud you for it?

This is taking on a new and very ugly life of its own at UT. Hope someone has the smarts to let Kiffin know that, despite what they may be saying, it is not cool to outright literally call another coach a "cheater" and be wrong about it.

Its not cute anymore and if he mistakenly thinks that he's now given license to offend by false accusation, then I suspect it will be UT that regrets it, not the rest of the conference.
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I completely agree. People here are more desparate then I first realized.

He will only continue to make a fool of himself, us, and the program if we let him. Folks, this should not be celebrated. He goofed and, apparently, he thinks this is the only way to save face. Please do not buy into this crap.
 
#72
#72
onevolfan said:
Once the game starts, none of the players are going to be thinking about what Kiffin said. The fans..now that's another story, but I don't think it will in any way affect what the score of the game is.
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I think this is correct, especially since ESPN and CBS (if they have the game) are going to start with stories about it pretty much in July non-stop.
 
#73
#73
He apologized LG. Come on, get over it. It's the staying after players, not worrying about upsetting other coaches by going after coaches and/or players, working the team into shape, checking on them in class, etc. etc. etc. The cheating comment incited a reaction, he apologized for it and now it's time to move on to letting other things piss you off.
 
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Mullet Vol said:
To lawgator - I can't speak for everyone else, but where my confidence comes from with the new staff is that I believe this staff is hungry. The former staff got very complacent. They were outworked and outcoached by the new kids in the SEC. This staff is different.

They have already challenged the team physically. Quotes from the players can backed this up. They are running a full month early than the old staff had them running.

They are non-stop as far recruiting goes. We have the largest recruiting budget in the country and have, by many recruiting experts, one the most talented recruiting staffs in the country. Putting those two together is a deadly combo.

We have one of the best defensive minds in the game. The NFL game that is. If you don't think that the college game will be a little slower than NFL for Monte then you fooling yourself.

This is not the same old Tennessee. I fully believe this staff will not be outworked and I think that will rub off on the players. Many of our rivals got used to a Tennessee team that was ill prepared, under conditioned and less talented than our rivals. From what I have seen so far that old Tennessee team is fading away.
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ridethelightening said:
onevolfan, I hope you know I was being sarcastic. But, if we took lg1's advice, I guess UT would have to fold up shop and run for the hills.
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Every point you score against Alabama and Florida is worth a million of these Kiffin comments.

On the flip side, every point they score more than you will likely be viewed by some as punishment.

Know what is a bit ironic -- and this is not particularly for or against one or the other of us -- for the last few years a lot of the fans of the old guard in the SEC institution-wise have berated Florida fans for being upstarts with no tradiiton. In a sense, Kiffin is in the same position as a coach that Florida has been as a program. New, brash, untested, but willing to improvise and take some chances.

We'll see if Kiffin can measure up to the same level of success that Florida has achieved and most important that UT fans are going to demand. Going to be fun to watch because I definitely don't think he's going to be boring.
 
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