Kiffin delivers a serious blow to Meyer!

#76
#76
CatawbaGator said:
I'm always concerned with my team, but you know, a win is a win. I believe that "revenge" is winning the game, especially after the opposing coach ran his mouth about beating us, not what sportswriters and bookies think. I don't bet, so I don't care about the spread. It goes into the record books as 5 in a row, and that's great with me.

The difference between me and most fans today is that style points don't mean a darn thing to me. Every week there is an upset, and every week there's a blowout that shouldn't have happened. You play to win, not to look good losing, and if you lose, you lose.

I'm not about "wait till next year" either. I could have crashed my plane flying home after the game. Then, there would not have been a next year. I'm about seizing the moment. I don't worry about next year.

Other than a fumble and an unsportsmanlike conduct call on my Gators, I'm very pleased with the result. I saw the playcalling on both sides for what it was. I really liked it that everyone involved almost immediately understood that when most teams are trying to run out the clock at the end of the game to seal the win, UT started the game trying to run out the clock. Now that's fear. Who needs respect when you have fear?

I know that Monte probably wanted the UT offense to mix it up a little. He, unlike his son, is sharp. He probably noticed that the Gators weren't playing with all of their weapons, and thought to himself, maybe even mentioned it at halftime, "Something's wrong with these Gators. They're one-dimensional", but true to form, just like when he coached the Raiders, Lane couldn't bring himself to take risks or be innovative in his approach to the game, probably because he's just not all that good of a coach.

The Gators, with the flu, injured receivers, Spikes throwing up on the sideline, etc., were ripe for the taking, but not by UT. UT had the talent, but not the nerve. That's why I believe that Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach for UT's opponents.

He can't use the "cupboard is bare" excuse next year or the year after next, and UT fans will be saying "What the heck were we thinking?".

Don't worry, the UT administration knows what it is doing. They're not knotheads. Lane and friends will recruit better than Mr. Donut did, and after 2 or 3 years of Oakland-style antics, an excellent coach will be available to replace Kiffin, but with plenty of talent to do the job. Kiffin is the type who will screw up so often, that the administration can let him go at any time. A great coach will be available in the next few years, and UT will snap him up. UT's admin is sharp. They know what they're doing. Then, I'll worry about the UT game on the schedule.

Until then, the Gators will be fat and happy.

I'm not wasting my time on your message board. It's great entertainment. I'm most certainly not engaging in false bravado. I just happen to know the game really well, and Kiffin, well, he's a placeholder coach.
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Too bad his daddy just gave everyone in the country a blueprint for stopping CUM's gimmick of an offense. Have fun when Tebow leaves. BTW YOUR DEFENSE IS LAUGHABLY BAD considering people were mentioning them as maybe the best defense ever.
 
#77
#77
rcs7/30 said:
Guys!!! Seriously, Myself and whoever posts next could be 1-2 right now at UT. The truth of the matter is that UF BEAT us....again. My son is 5 years old and since that time we have never beaten FL. How long until he gets to see a W? I mean, we played tough, but they played tougher...hence the final score. They actually produced more this year than last year. Does anyone remember the UCLA game??? Geez we suck and I for one am not happy about it. Again, who doesn't think that if we hired any respectable coach out there that we would be worse than sitting at 1-2...probably better? All Lane has done is draw attention to the the power T during what appears to be a terrible season. He has lost 100% more games than he's won at UT. Recruits may watch, but they just laugh each time we get beat. So does Richt, Meyer, Sabin, Miles, and Nuehiesal...
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I disagree completely. Before Kiffin was hired last year, we weren't even in the race for Bryce Brown and certainly were far behind in recruiting a lot of the other kids like Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Nukeese, etc. Take some of the big-time coaches out there right now and look at what they did in their first year at a given school: Pete Carroll 6-6 at USC, Bob Stoops and Jim Tressel 7-5 at their respective schools, and Meyer was 9-3 at Florida with cupboard that was more stacked than what Kiffin inherited here. It takes some time to turn around a program with a predecessor's players. The fact is Phil Fulmer and the program had grown stale and needed a boost of life. The recruiting is going great and for a program that had fallen down as far as we had, I think 1-2 with the level of competition we have played is pretty well. Our defense is as nasty as anyone's in the country and the running game is coming around. I see us having an opportunity to win every game from here on out and that includes Bama. I certainly don't think recruits are laughing at us. Recruiting now is way different than it was even 5 or 6 years ago with the advent of Facebook and all the recruting websites being more popular now. Having Tennessee out there in the headlines and putting the name in the minds of HS kids from WA to CA to CT is vital and should not be underestimated.Do not be surprised if we turn one or two guys away from other teams like last year. Once the season is over and the coaches can devote all their time to recruiting, my money is on Coach O, LT, Gran, and CLK. If, after 2 or 3 recruiting cycles of top classes, we are still a 6-6, 7-5, 8-4 type team, then I will be ready to say we have been Zookered and say move on. Just not after 3 games.
 
#78
#78
carolinaviking said:
With all due respect, Volfan76, I think you are delusional here. Urban Meyer just beat Tennessee and it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. At one point, the Vols were saved due to an unsportsmanlike penalty on the Gators. Without that 15-yard penalty, the score probably would have been worse, so the game was not close due entirely to Tennessee's gameplay or Florida's lack of gameplay. Coach Meyer is there for the long haul, that is obvious to anyone and this win over the Vols didn't change anything. They are still 3-0 and ranked in the top 3. The top recruits will continue to head for UF at this point and to think that there are concerns at any level of Gatornation for UM's future is flat out crazy.
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It is not smart to start talking about "could haves" or "would haves" because there are just as many of them that could have gone the other way and "changed" the outcome of the game in favor of the Vols..."IF" Gerald Jones is 6 inches to the left we get 6 instead of 3, "IF" we get a block here or a block there hardesty or brown takes it to the house, "IF" tebow didnt break a tackle here or there...It could just have easily had been UT on top if you wanna play that game...
 
#79
#79
lawgator1 said:
LOL.

Talk down here is Jacksonville needs him.

If for no other reason than to put butts in the empty seats.
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I can attest to this. On our way back from Gainesville yesterday we went to the Jags game (free tickets, club level, section 109, 40 yd line) and that place was freaking empty. Being a Panthers fan I know crappy fans, but this made Panthers fans look like Steelers fans, it was sad. Because of the drive, the heat, and lack-luster performance, we left at halftime...and we weren't alone...

I mentioned this same thing to my Gator friend, that Jacksonville would be the only team to take him in the first round, and only to boost ticket sales..he told me they have bumper stickers in jags colors that read "DRAFT TEBOW".

take it for what it's worth.
 
#80
#80
lawgator1 said:
LOL.

Talk down here is Jacksonville needs him.

If for no other reason than to put butts in the empty seats.
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Word around the campfire is that the Jaguar franchise is shopping around for another market. Apparently they're not very happy with Jacksonville. I don't blame them. Jacksonville is a crappy city!
 
#81
#81
All the talk about Meyer going to ND doesn't make much sense to me. That is where coaches go to die. People are saying that he will leave UF because the talent will stop heading to UF. Folks, the talent that has gone to ND is nowhere near the talent that has gone to UF in the past 15 years and that pattern will continue as long as ND maintains an academic quota on recruits. Why would he leave Florida in fear of a talent vacuum and head to ND where history is the only asset they have? Kids may want to go play for him at ND, but they won't be accepted to the university. If winning is his goal, he'd be crazy to take that job. If he wants to be one of the few to coach at ND, that might be a different story, but neither Weis or Willingham are/will be remembered fondly for their ND tenures. A stint under the golden dome does not ensure your legend.
 
#82
#82
carolinaviking said:
All the talk about Meyer going to ND doesn't make much sense to me. That is where coaches go to die. People are saying that he will leave UF because the talent will stop heading to UF. Folks, the talent that has gone to ND is nowhere near the talent that has gone to UF in the past 15 years and that pattern will continue as long as ND maintains an academic quota on recruits. Why would he leave Florida in fear of a talent vacuum and head to ND where history is the only asset they have? Kids may want to go play for him at ND, but they won't be accepted to the university. If winning is his goal, he'd be crazy to take that job. If he wants to be one of the few to coach at ND, that might be a different story, but neither Weis or Willingham are/will be remembered fondly for their ND tenures.
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Academic quota on recruits? Please. Anybody that the AA clearinghouse cuts loose, Weis can get in.

I can tell you the main reason he leaves if he decides to: CASH.
 
#84
#84
Cartervol said:
I'm not trying to make a case for Florida. I think they get beat, maybe twice this year. Fact is though, they're defending national chumps until proven otherwise.
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Defending champs means nothing other than the media attention.. I heard Roethlesberger.. I think... talking about the 2 taboo words in the locker room.. "Last Year" Good philosophy. But they will soon be proven otherwise, and the world will all be right again.. and the gator nightmare will be over.
 
#85
#85
Jacksonville will not support an nfl team. Their owner, weaver, will be moving that team in 2-3 years to LA or Vegas--bank on it. They are losing millions every year, blackout all their games and no one in the city really cares any more.
 
#86
#86
rcs7/30 said:
Guys!!! Seriously, Myself and whoever posts next could be 1-2 right now at UT. The truth of the matter is that UF BEAT us....again. My son is 5 years old and since that time we have never beaten FL. How long until he gets to see a W? I mean, we played tough, but they played tougher...hence the final score. They actually produced more this year than last year. Does anyone remember the UCLA game??? Geez we suck and I for one am not happy about it. Again, who doesn't think that if we hired any respectable coach out there that we would be worse than sitting at 1-2...probably better? All Lane has done is draw attention to the the power T during what appears to be a terrible season. He has lost 100% more games than he's won at UT. Recruits may watch, but they just laugh each time we get beat. So does Richt, Meyer, Sabin, Miles, and Nuehiesal...
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You aren't fooling anyone.
 
#90
#90
carolinaviking said:
All the talk about Meyer going to ND doesn't make much sense to me. That is where coaches go to die. People are saying that he will leave UF because the talent will stop heading to UF. Folks, the talent that has gone to ND is nowhere near the talent that has gone to UF in the past 15 years and that pattern will continue as long as ND maintains an academic quota on recruits. Why would he leave Florida in fear of a talent vacuum and head to ND where history is the only asset they have? Kids may want to go play for him at ND, but they won't be accepted to the university. If winning is his goal, he'd be crazy to take that job. If he wants to be one of the few to coach at ND, that might be a different story, but neither Weis or Willingham are/will be remembered fondly for their ND tenures. A stint under the golden dome does not ensure your legend.
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He has said it is his dream job. One of his daughters is about to leave for college. The job is probably about to open and who knows when it will again. Not to mention that nd will throw a ridiculous amount of cash at him. that being said, i hope he stays long enough for tennessee to beat him.
 
#91
#91
cali_vol said:
Kiffin did get in his head. You can tell from the interviews. IMO it's kind of like the 'ol ball coach used to do.
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The difference is the ol ball coach backed it up with a win. I have never heard of fans happy they did not lose by more. UT is 1-2 now about the same as Fulmer would have you at.
 
#92
#92
I think the people who say that Tennessee would have won if Tebow hadn't played are not thinking clearly.

Tennessee had a nice start to the game and converted a couple of 3rd and long plays to crank out an 8 minute drive with a field goal. For the next 2 1/2 quarters UT amassed a grand total of 40 total yards including four straight three and outs. They grabbed a second field goal courtesy of a Tebow interception.

So there you have UT's offense having generated a total of 3 points midway through the fourth quarter. Are you assuming that if Brantley had played it would have been a shutout at that point?

On the other side of the ball, on Florida's first seven drives, they scored 5 times and turned the ball over twice including the fumble inside the UT 5. Monte's defense did not force Florida to punt until the middle of the fourth quarter.

I can tell you that Florida walks away from the game with a feeling that they could have played better. But the idea that Tennessee outplayed Florida is ridiculous.

Tennessee outplayed low expectations.
 
#93
#93
When Tebow leaves UF, things will be different in this series. Brantley is not that good---UT will win the SEC East in 2010---mark it down!
 
#94
#94
scottone928 said:
The difference is the ol ball coach backed it up with a win. I have never heard of fans happy they did not lose by more. UT is 1-2 now about the same as Fulmer would have you at.
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oh don't get us wrong...we won't be content with these small mini victories for long. and we all wanted a regime change years before it actually happened, but one question....if it was so insignificant, why are you here? :dunno:
 
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