Kiffin delivers a serious blow to Meyer!

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rsg87gator said:
Meyer has 2 national championships, I'm pretty sure he's not worried about Kiffin anymore than he is worried about Nick Saban or any other SEC coach
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Right. People said the same thing about Fulmer when Meyer was hired.
 
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Volfan76 said:
The sentiment and the consensus theme around the media is that while the Vols lost on the scoreboard, they won "the game". I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer. Several things that Tn did this weekend: Monte provided a blueprint for other teams to attach Florida's offense. I think every person in the nation expected Florida to come in and put 50 points on Tn and couldn't. Tn is delivering a serious blow to Fl in recruiting and yesterday’s performance certainly didn't hurt any. Most importantly Urban and the gators weren't able to accomplish something that they extremely motivated to do since he became coach. I think it was a serious psychological blow to him and the program and I have my doubts about how he will be able to bounce back from a blow that has hit him on so many fronts. He tried to take the high road and shake hands with the Tennessee players but as soon as he got back in the locker room, he was talking about players having the flu and how good of a sec defense they faced. That tells me that he is second guessing himself and making excuses. One more thing to add....tebow is gone after this year and those are some big shoes to fill! Idk maybe i'm over analyzing this, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the program to start unraveling and possibly even see meyer move on to nd.
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Look, I'm as big a fan of UT as anyone, but to say Florida's program is unraveling is just silly. The cupboard is far from empty in Gainesville. CUM is a great coach and will tweak his system to fit his personnel. Don't forget he won the NC with Leak at QB-and that was a much different offensive system than they have with TT at QB. The gap is without-a-doubt shrinking and we will have an excellent shot next year. But to say the Florida program is in a decline just doesn't make sense. CUM very well may be gone next year or soon thereafter, but I don't think it'll be Notre Dame, I think the NFL comes calling. Just a hunch, but I could see HC of the Dallas Cowboys as his next job.
 
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Volfan76 said:
Do you pay any attention to recruiting at all? Tennessee now has the 3rd ranked recruiting class and Florida is 9th. The following commitments to TN have offers from Florida: Demarco Cobbs, Delvin Jones, Markeith Ambles, and Jose Jose. So if you have anything to back those remarks up other than guff, lets hear it..if not, go back to your own board troll.
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If you look back at the Tennessee recruiting classes of the past 15 years, you will probably see that they often outranked Florida's, yet Tennessee's record against UF - and UF's record in the SEC - indicate that UT hasn't been able to capitalize on all that talent while UF has. Anyone depending on the rankings of incoming high-school athletes to strike fear in the hearts of opponents has not been watching college football for very long. What do you think UCLA's recruiting class ranking was two years ago compared to the Vols? They sure didn't seem too scared of our players last year or last week.

Why you calling me a troll? Because I disagreed with you? Why don't YOU get off the internet and finish your homework. I bet your 8th-grade math teacher has a pop quiz prepared for you tomorrow.


* edited to add: by the way, your original post in this thread was nothing but guff, so why don't you do some research and back up your own opinion before demanding that I back-up mine, eh? Find some evidence other than your opinion that indicates Meyer is in any danger of leaving after this win over UT.
 
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rsg87gator said:
Meyer has 2 national championships, I'm pretty sure he's not worried about Kiffin anymore than he is worried about Nick Saban or any other SEC coach
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He doesn't have to worry about CLK til next year. You are correct.




But that other guy, Saban, if he is not worried about our ability to run at him yesterday (and basically telling him we were gonna do it), he might ought to worry a little. Saban has a better OL, and RBs that are pretty dang good. If ya'll don't tighten up the middle, you won't win the SEC.
 
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I started reading but after the first few sentences I came to the conclusion that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
 
#31
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Meyer will be at Notre Dame next year. He won't have Tebow and the others and he will get a big raise etc to go to get the Irish back on track....Mark my words.
 
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carolinaviking said:
If you look back at the Tennessee recruiting classes of the past 15 years, you will probably see that they often outranked Florida's, yet Tennessee's record against UF - and UF's record in the SEC - indicate that UT hasn't been able to capitalize on all that talent while UF has.
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You are correct, and the root of that problem has been addressed.

Fulmer was a chronic underachiever. I'm much more optimistic about our new staff in that regard.
 
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Volfan76 said:
The sentiment and the consensus theme around the media is that while the Vols lost on the scoreboard, they won "the game". I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer. Several things that Tn did this weekend: Monte provided a blueprint for other teams to attach Florida's offense. I think every person in the nation expected Florida to come in and put 50 points on Tn and couldn't. Tn is delivering a serious blow to Fl in recruiting and yesterday’s performance certainly didn't hurt any. Most importantly Urban and the gators weren't able to accomplish something that they extremely motivated to do since he became coach. I think it was a serious psychological blow to him and the program and I have my doubts about how he will be able to bounce back from a blow that has hit him on so many fronts. He tried to take the high road and shake hands with the Tennessee players but as soon as he got back in the locker room, he was talking about players having the flu and how good of a sec defense they faced. That tells me that he is second guessing himself and making excuses. One more thing to add....tebow is gone after this year and those are some big shoes to fill! Idk maybe i'm over analyzing this, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the program to start unraveling and possibly even see meyer move on to nd.
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I don't believe this is a great psycho blow to Urbie. He won and is 3 and 0 and will move on. We are on the rise and gators may be sliding some, but I don't see a disaster for him. We can't read too much into this one game that we lost. I agree that some teams around the league will prepare more for us, some recruits will be more impressed, and Urbie may go to ND next year, but to say the game some how ruined him just doesn't fly. As much as I wish it did--it didn't.
 
#34
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Volfan76 said:
The sentiment and the consensus theme around the media is that while the Vols lost on the scoreboard, they won "the game". I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer. Several things that Tn did this weekend: Monte provided a blueprint for other teams to attach Florida's offense. I think every person in the nation expected Florida to come in and put 50 points on Tn and couldn't. Tn is delivering a serious blow to Fl in recruiting and yesterday’s performance certainly didn't hurt any. Most importantly Urban and the gators weren't able to accomplish something that they extremely motivated to do since he became coach. I think it was a serious psychological blow to him and the program and I have my doubts about how he will be able to bounce back from a blow that has hit him on so many fronts. He tried to take the high road and shake hands with the Tennessee players but as soon as he got back in the locker room, he was talking about players having the flu and how good of a sec defense they faced. That tells me that he is second guessing himself and making excuses. One more thing to add....tebow is gone after this year and those are some big shoes to fill! Idk maybe i'm over analyzing this, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the program to start unraveling and possibly even see meyer move on to nd.
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That's laughable. As a result of his win, his program is going to start to unravel? :blink: Florida has won two of the last three national championships, their recruiting is unbelievably strong, and they could very well be on their way to winning their 3rd national championship in four years. Our defense played a great game against them, but our defense is much better than most defenses out there and no other team can run Eric Berry out on the field on every defensive play. Florida will be just fine this year, and while UT is definitely improving, Florida is in absolutely NO danger of declining.
 
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i think CUM will stay next year and if they dont have a top 5 recruting class for 2011 he will leave JMO
 
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kptvol said:
Right. People said the same thing about Fulmer when Meyer was hired.
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Yes. There were many of those idiots. For starters, Fulmer never won 2 national championships. Furthermore, Fulmer's career was already on a slide before Urban Meyer arrived to help polish him off.
 
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Florida fans are furious that UF didn't play well---Kiffin got to them!!! Now, they are worried about their poor play against a UT team with lesser talent. I think Bama is the best team in the sEC---they will upset florida in the SEC title game--mark it down.
 
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Seems there may be some truth to this story about several key UF players playing with the flu. If you have never played a sport with a fever, you have no idea how difficult that can be. That could very well be a primary factor in this game being close, regardless of whether or not you think CUM is just making excuses. The Florida faithful now see that CUM and the Gators beat a reasonably healthy UT team with a bunch of sick players. Any coach that can do that is pretty darn good.
 
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onevol74 said:
People, it is all about our coaching staff. Kiffin took a huge negative marketing situation and turned it into a positive on Saturday. With all the air time about the anointing of the King of College Football in his excellency, Pope Urban, we found out that the emperor has no clothes.

I can not wait until Kiffin and this staff has their own players. I just hope that we can make enough progress this year to avoid a loosing season with the holes in the depth chart that Fulmer created with inadequate recruiting. I think that UT and Ohio State are the only two schools in the nation that have never had back to back loosing seasons. I do not want to give that up since no other SEC school can ever claim that.
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I think if we bring in Cam Newton and let him and Bray duke it out in the spring and fall camp, we'll have a HUGE upgrade at the QB position. Nick Lamaison may also surprise a lot of folks...but I think Cam Newton gives us the best chance at a "Quick Fix" solution instead of having to wait until 2011. Bray might come on strong as a true freshman, but I don't think we can afford to put all of our eggs in one man's basket...especially a true freshman at the most critical position on the team.
With Cam Newton onboard, we could be ballin' 4 real come next fall.
 
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lawgator1 said:
LOL.

Talk down here is Jacksonville needs him.

If for no other reason than to put butts in the empty seats.
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That won't win football game, but whatever. If I was a Jags fan and they drafted him and left McCoy or Bradford on the board, I'd be seriously peeved.. no doubt about it.
 
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VolsRule said:
Florida fans are furious that UF didn't play well---Kiffin got to them!!! Now, they are worried about their poor play against a UT team with lesser talent. I think Bama is the best team in the sEC---they will upset florida in the SEC title game--mark it down.
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If the gators make to the SECCG.. against Bama.. it won't be an upset if the tide wins..
 
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Why does anyone want Meyer to leave? So we can have it easy? Like it would be anyway. Why didn't Meyer take the Notre Dame job several years back? Is it more attractive now? I'd rather Meyer be here, we need another feud like Florida and Tennessee used to be. Without Meyer here, its not a feud. We need to beat the best to be the best. Right now, Meyer and the Gators are the best until proven otherwise. Monte will always have a little something for the Gators and once the offense is up to speed we'll win our share of these games. I don't want Meyer going anywhere he makes the conference better.
 
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Cartervol said:
We need to beat the best to be the best.
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Which team in the FBS is number one right now? Which team played CSU and Troy.. and were supposed top roll over us? Fact is.. it is all about perception and winning. Get the media on your side.. and you can beat a Farragut High School and play for the NC. (No offense to Farragut intended)
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Which team in the FBS is number one right now? Which team played CSU and Troy.. and were supposed top roll over us? Fact is.. it is all about perception and winning. Get the media on your side.. and you can beat a Farragut High School and play for the NC. (No offense to Farragut intended)
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Doesn't matter, Gators have that Sears trophy that trumps your argument. They're the best team until someone beats them. We didn't, but i bet a bunch of them were in the hot tub come sunday. I'd rather him be here, makes for juicy TV and spikes more interest on both sides. Besides we need to at least get one win against this guy.
 
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Cartervol said:
Doesn't matter, Gators have that Sears trophy that trumps your argument. They're the best team until someone beats them. We didn't, but i bet a bunch of them were in the hot tub come sunday. I'd rather him be here, makes for juicy TV and spikes more interest on both sides. Besides we need to at least get one win against this guy.
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Your opinion, and I respect it. They are NOT the best team though. They have a lame schedule, and the media loves Tebow. That means a lot more than talent. IF they beat FSU and LSU, we'll see. Till then, they are American Idol contestants.
 
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Ok enough ...you would think you guys won the game this is ridiculous stop with the moral victory **** football is about the score not your feelings...I'm not trolling just sick of every thread being well we almost won... just move along and prepare for next week
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Your opinion, and I respect it. They are NOT the best team though. They have a lame schedule, and the media loves Tebow. That means a lot more than talent. IF they beat FSU and LSU, we'll see. Till then, they are American Idol contestants.
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I'm not trying to make a case for Florida. I think they get beat, maybe twice this year. Fact is though, they're defending national chumps until proven otherwise.
 
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Florida might lose to lsu and maybe Georgia. If they make the sec title game, bama will beat them by 10. Their offense isn't that good after losing all those playmakers from last year's team.
 
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