Kelly slammed by Frazier.

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C1500

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Late hit leads to a fight in 4th quarter of Mizzou-Tennessee game

Sorry if this was been posted,
I looked over the threads on the front page and didn't see it.

I know its not a rule, but I thought he should have been tossed from the game.
You could hear the whistle long before Frazier slammed Kelly.

I was just wanting to have a discussion about what other people thought.
 
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Dude should have been ejected. I would have loved to see a security guard spear him a la Goldberg on his way to the locker room as well.
 
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We see defensive players ejected all the time for targeting calls which don't place an opponent's health at risk as much as that play did to John Kelly. Of course Frazier should have been ejected.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Dude should have been ejected. I would have loved to see a security guard spear him a la Goldberg on his way to the locker room as well.
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I don't want to see anyone get hurt, but at the moment after the play I was hoping for Jennings or someone to plow him.:ermm:
 
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I think the only thing that saved him is the whistle started blowing right as he started lifting him. It was a terrible dirty play regardless, and I told my son if I ever saw him do that they wouldn't have to eject him, I'd pull him out of the game myself
 
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That could have been a legit c-spine injury. Much more dangerous than a lot of the calls that get players tossed.
 
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They definitely have to make that reviewable as a dangerous play.
 
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Frazier could have broke Kelly's neck. Not only should he have been ejected he should have been suspended the rest of the season for doing that.
 
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It was as dirty of a play as I've ever seen. It was as dirty as Haynesworth stomping Gurode's head imo and the NFL suspended him five games for that. He could have paralyzed or even killed Kelly slamming him down on his head and neck like that. I was screaming and cussing at the TV when I saw it.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
Frazier could have broke Kelly's neck. Not only should he have been ejected he should have been suspended the rest of the season for doing that.
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In Frazier's defense, the refs have to do a better job whistling the play dead. The whistle was very late on that one. It was a late tackle, but not as late as it looked according to the whistle.
 
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Honest question: is there any rule in the books that dictates a head-slam as a personal foul? I know it was questionably after the whistle.
 
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GAVol said:
In Frazier's defense, the refs have to do a better job whistling the play dead. The whistle was very late on that one. It was a late tackle, but not as late as it looked according to the whistle.
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The whistles have been late all year, it seems. Seems like at least once or twice a game where the play should have been blown dead a couple seconds before it was.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
It was as dirty of a play as I've ever seen. It was as dirty as Haynesworth stomping Gurode's head imo and the NFL suspended him five games
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It was one of those things that's against the "code". Suplexing a guy onto his head after forward progress has been stopped is like a pitcher throwing a fastball at somebody's head. You just don't do it.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
The whistles have been late all year, it seems. Seems like at least once or twice a game where the play should have been blown dead a couple seconds before it was.
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The one I hate is when linemen try to move the pile after a runner is stopped. Everybody knows it's illegal to aid a runner, but it's gotten to the point where they allow the pile to turn into a rugby scrum. People are going to get hurt.
 
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GAVol said:
It was one of those things that's against the "code". Suplexing a guy onto his head after forward progress has been stopped is like a pitcher throwing a fastball at somebody's head. You just don't do it.
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Exactly, it's not only dangerous it's classless and despicable. I have no respect for players like him.
 
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GAVol said:
The one I hate is when linemen try to move the pile after a runner is stopped. Everybody knows it's illegal to aid a runner, but it's gotten to the point where they allow the pile to turn into a rugby scrum. People are going to get hurt.
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It's certainly a prime spot for a knee injury.
 
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GAVol said:
In Frazier's defense, the refs have to do a better job whistling the play dead. The whistle was very late on that one. It was a late tackle, but not as late as it looked according to the whistle.
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I fully agree, I have watched a bunch of games where the guy with the ball is pushed back
by three or more from the other team and it seems like it take 6 or 7 yards of being pushed back before the whistle goes off.

Someone is going to get really hurt from one of those pile ups before its over.
 
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I remember an Alabama player doing that to one of our running backs 4 years ago. He wasn't ejected. He stayed in and got his azz kicked by Mizzou olinemen.

Frazier didn't do anything worthy of ejection, atleast not based on past cases of similar tackles.
 
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GAVol said:
The one I hate is when linemen try to move the pile after a runner is stopped. Everybody knows it's illegal to aid a runner, but it's gotten to the point where they allow the pile to turn into a rugby scrum. People are going to get hurt.
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That's not illegal anymore. It's a legal play.
 
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C1500 said:
I don't want to see anyone get hurt, but at the moment after the play I was hoping for Jennings or someone to plow him.:ermm:
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Butch was out there pulling Jennings out of it, and he had already been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct once. I love his intensity, but he needs to rein it in a little.

I felt offsetting the call by flagging Boulware was crap. It is why I hate the targeting rule. They want to place focus on the new PC rule and be ineffective enforcing rules longer in place.

In reality, the refs should have called flagrant personal foul and disqualified him. It has always been my understanding they can use their personal discretion in those instances.

However, that play ignited the Vols to open up the whole can of whoop ass. Just glad Kelly is OK.
 
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GAVol said:
In Frazier's defense, the refs have to do a better job whistling the play dead. The whistle was very late on that one. It was a late tackle, but not as late as it looked according to the whistle.
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Oh, it was sounded long enough for him to let up. Only time I could excuse a hit that late would have been if we were playing TSD. And I have seen less flagrant play clear benches. He dropped him on his head, and he meant to do it.
 
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He was getting beat down by two of our players immediately after that on the field. The link above cuts off too soon. It wasn't obvious on camera but players know how to hide it under a pile no matter how small it is.
 
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