Keep the SEC Southern

#51
#51
I think the SEC should also look at adding:

Louisville

GaTech

East Carolina or Memphis
 
#52
#52
So we are re-implementing the Mason Dixon line in NCAA football?
 
#53
#53
beamerman said:
Obvious choice if we want to help our Vols in the future. Add Wake Forest to East to penetrate some North Carolina market. That helps our conference academics, gives us another W in football to match Vandy, and they are competitive as Vandy in BB. Why do we want Oklahome and VT? The SEC is Southeastern Conference, not south west conference. How many people here want to make the football so much better than it is and cause more losses? How would we feel if we had to play Ala, Ok, A&M on the road and our east schedule?
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Conferences arranged by "regions" is going out the window. It's time to hop aboard or be left behind. Besides, what makes you think anyone even wants out of the ACC?
 
#54
#54
DjCrenshaw said:
Well, that is a little bit of a bad analogy
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Excellent analogy: People whose ancestors were on the right side of history shouldn't be celebrating the accomplishments --or lack thereof-- of their enemies who were motivated by evil. Let the motives for the Civil War debate commence.
 
#55
#55
The right side of history? Highly debatable. Fighting for your way of life is the basic principle of american culture and as much as you'd like to deny it was the basis of the confederacy as well.
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Midfielder10 said:
The right side of history? Highly debatable. Fighting for your way of life is the basic principle of american culture and as much as you'd like to deny it was the basis of the confederacy as well.
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Who taught you this? Margaret Mitchell?

The South never secedes if they aren't worried about keeping their slaves. Without secession there is no war. The South's suicide in the Civil War was a choice. had nothing to do with self-defense.
 
#59
#59
We are destined to be in the northern-most division with UK, Vandy, and Virginia Tech.

Call it what you will. SEC North... SEC Northern

::sigh::
 
#60
#60
Can't you hear it now?

The Vols and the Hokies meet Saturday in a key Southeastern North matchup

meanwhile, the Gamecocks and Hurricanes lock horns in a Southeastern East tilt
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
Well, I'm sure Las Cruces, New Mexico is further south than any of those places, but we're not likely to add New Mexico State to the conference for that reason. Being in the South and having a southern geographic position are obviously two very different things.
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I agree with this. However, the SEC is no longer just the southeast. When Arky joined it moved the boundary past what most consider "east". Now if we want to change it to the Southern Conference with east and west divisions, that's more accurate.
I think if you spread out too far it will hurt the fanbase. People are just not going to trek to Oklahoma from Florida very often. Similarly, if OK goes to the PAC whatever, I don't see many folks traveling from Los Angeles to Norman.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Who taught you this? Margaret Mitchell?

The South never secedes if they aren't worried about keeping their slaves. Without secession there is no war. The South's suicide in the Civil War was a choice. had nothing to do with self-defense.
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Slavery was popular all over the world. The South needed the labor because of agriculture, of course the north working in textiles and factories didn't need them as badly. Don't be ignorant.
 
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UTProf said:
No we didn't. East Tennessee was invaded by rebels before the second vote on secession took place and we were immediately occupied by the confederacy as a hostile territory.
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Link? According to wikipedia, the second vote was on June 8, and troops were sent to suppress reverse secession on July 26.
 
#64
#64
I don't care who is in the conference or where the teams come from as long as we play quality opponents. I know everyone likes to think the SEC is the best conference out there but if you are honest we never play the best teams on the road and very little of the SEC travels for games OOC.

If you want to be the best you have to play the best.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
Slavery was popular all over the world. The South needed the labor because of agriculture, of course the north working in textiles and factories didn't need them as badly. Don't be ignorant.
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Just to be clear about you meaning: It's okay to use slaves, and fighting for your right to have them if you are working in agriculture, qualifies as fighting for your way of life?
 
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#66
I live 20 miles north of the Mason Dixon Line, when I drive south on I83 and cross that line I enter Maryland.
 
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#67
Agree with a lot of the OP and that's why I hate that the SEC is trying to expand.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. We have the best conference in the country. Why would u mess with that? I wouldn't.
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VOLnMiami said:
Oh good god....Somebody get a gun and shoot this person! :eek:lol: NONE OF THE ABOVE!
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Why not? All are in major cities and have fairly big media markets. Memphis is the only slouch in the group, but it could help recruiting there since there is a ton of talent in Memphis. And that's without taking from other major conferences
 
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Midfielder10 said:
The right side of history? Highly debatable. Fighting for your way of life is the basic principle of american culture and as much as you'd like to deny it was the basis of the confederacy as well.
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Way of life=freedom for white land owners and white businessmen. Everyone else, not so much.
 
#70
#70
Midfielder10 said:
Slavery was popular all over the world. The South needed the labor because of agriculture, of course the north working in textiles and factories didn't need them as badly. Don't be ignorant.
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Slavery was popular among the chosen few, hard to justify the horrors of slavery because it was used in other places in the world. The US stood for something better than that, then and now.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
I don't have a problem with southern pride. I have some myself. But it quickly turns to shame when I hear someone drawing on our Confederate past as a source of that pride.
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look i didint really mean for this to turn into a civil war debate buuut. look never have shame about the south being fed up with an opressive government and wanting to have freedom for themselves. and yes slavery was horrible but thats not all it was about.

i could write several pages on this but ill get right to the point.

i understand where you are coming from and slavery will always trump the other issues that created a civil war in this country...and i really think that is sad bc there where very brave people who put there life on the line for there own country ( many of whom owned no slaves.) and i hate that the south always gets blammed for slavery alone. there where PLUNTY of northhern textile barrons making alot of money off slave workers.

i want to remember our culture and past and rem people like robert e lee, Stonewall Jackson, general longstreet, and geroge pickett. never be ashamed of what the confederacy stood for and faught for. this whole country had blood on there hands when it came to slavery.

hahahhah and now i will step down off the podium and say GO VOLS and LONG LIVE DIXIE!!! hahahah :hi::dance2:
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Just to be clear about you meaning: It's okay to use slaves, and fighting for your right to have them if you are working in agriculture, qualifies as fighting for your way of life?
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i hate people like this. we all agree slavery was bad but there is alot of bad crap that goes on. this country is doing it right now..

but you cant possibly be born here bc i couldint imagine being that big of a trader..punk...LOL


Gods and Generals - Men of The Valley - YouTube

you watch that yankee boy and tell me if it was just all about slavery...hahaha:eek:lol::dance2::rock::moon2:
 
#75
#75
how are we talking about slavery on a damn football board? you guys should get back on topic...

and for the record the civil war was more about taxation and states rights to govern themselves then it was about actual slavery..

but whatever..

lets talk football
 
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