Keep Pruitt he is learning and making changes: offense

#52
#52
901 Orange said:
Man u know that W/L record is skewed. Year 1 doesn't count. He inherited the worse roster in school history, with a late start on the job, and still won more games then the previous year with Botch's players. He is basically 11-11 right now at the halfway point of a 5yr rebuild. Yal wont even let his 1st class become seniors before u want to fire him. Progression doesn't always take an upward trajectory. Sometimes their are high's and low's on your way to the peak.
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That's some Dooley "year zero" bull crap right there. Pruitt is completely incompetent and needs to be fired right after the game today, win (unlikely) or lose.
 
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901 Orange said:
Man u know that W/L record is skewed. Year 1 doesn't count. He inherited the worse roster in school history, with a late start on the job, and still won more games then the previous year with Botch's players. He is basically 11-11 right now at the halfway point of a 5yr rebuild. Yal wont even let his 1st class become seniors before u want to fire him. Progression doesn't always take an upward trajectory. Sometimes their are high's and low's on your way to the peak.
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LOL year one doesn't count?

Year one counts for every other coach in the NCAA, but never for UT's coach. The fact that we keep hiring coaches that need a "year zero" tells you everything you need to know about the quality of that hire.
 
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In the last three games, Tennessee has seen its passing game take the next step. The Vols have passed for 240-plus yards in three straight games, marking the first time they have done that since the 2012 season – 381 at South Carolina, 530 vs. Troy, 432 vs. Missouri. It's also the first time that UT has passed for 240-plus yards in three straight SEC games since 2009 – 259 vs. Auburn, 310 vs. Georgia, 265 at Alabama. Tennessee threw for 242 yards at Auburn on Nov. 21, 240 yards vs. No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5 and 328 yards in a win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12.

True freshman Harrison Bailey and sophomore J.T. Shrout each threw a pair of touchdowns in the win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12. It was the first time the Vols threw four or more touchdowns in a game since tallying four against No. 20 Florida on Sept. 24, 2016. In the last two games combined, Tennessee has thrown for six touchdowns and only one interception. The six TD passes is tied for the SEC lead with Alabama in the month of December. In the two December games, UT is 48-of-69 for 568 yards and a completion percentage of 69.6, which ranks third in the SEC behind Texas A&M (78.3) and Alabama (75.8).

Against No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5, Tennessee orchestrated three scoring drives of over 94 yards. It was the first time since at least 2003 that the Vols had three scoring drives of 90+ yards in a game. In a loss at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21, the Vols tallied 28 first downs, representing the most in the Jeremy Pruitt era. It was also the most first downs in a game by UT since recording 29 against Kentucky on Nov. 12, 2016. Tennessee has put up over 400 yards of total offense in two of its last three games, including a Pruitt-era-high 540 at Vanderbilt and 464 at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21.
If you just look, you will see that we're starting to show some identity. Pruitt is learning, he will get there.
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OD weren't you the one who famously said.....
KIRBY can't beat Pruitt!
 
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patrick said:
FYI:

TN Offense - Ranked 117th in 3rd down conversions.

TN Offense - Ranked 94th in total offense.

TN Defense - Ranked 59th in total defense.

Winning % - Ranked 87th.

Scoring Offense - Ranked 104th.

Scoring Defense - Ranked 68th.

Pruitt Overall Record - 16 and 18; definite regression in wins and losses this season.

Pruitt is the worst Tennessee Football Coach in the last 50 years.
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But other than this, he's learning?
 
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901 Orange said:
Man u know that W/L record is skewed. Year 1 doesn't count. He inherited the worse roster in school history, with a late start on the job, and still won more games then the previous year with Botch's players. He is basically 11-11 right now at the halfway point of a 5yr rebuild. Yal wont even let his 1st class become seniors before u want to fire him. Progression doesn't always take an upward trajectory. Sometimes their are high's and low's on your way to the peak.
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Saban
7-6 ...... year 1 (pre-NCAA sanctions)
12-2...... year 2, #6
14-0...... year 3..... Natty
10-3...... year 4...... #10
12-1...... year 5..... Natty
13-1...... year 6..... Natty

Pruitt
5-7 ........ year 1
8-5 ........ year 2
3-7 ........ year 3 (loss to aTm assumed)

TN was ranked pre-season at #25 or so this year. I believe we're at #92 currently.

I don't mind waiting a bit for progression but it needs to actually BE progression. It's not there. We have high level recruiting classes and low level results. That's a development and coaching problem.

Again, I think Fulmer has screwed us with the extension of Pruitt's contract and we can't financially afford to replace him for a year or two but to say Pruitt is "progressing" just isn't true.
 
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901 Orange said:
Man u know that W/L record is skewed. Year 1 doesn't count. He inherited the worse roster in school history, with a late start on the job, and still won more games then the previous year with Botch's players. He is basically 11-11 right now at the halfway point of a 5yr rebuild. Yal wont even let his 1st class become seniors before u want to fire him. Progression doesn't always take an upward trajectory. Sometimes their are high's and low's on your way to the peak.
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All wins and losses - only losers use those excuses. And FYI - JG was a Butch guy that freaking rolled out there for nearly three seasons. That was his decision and no one else's.
 
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#64
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Gandalf said:
I am still hoping Pruitt can pull it off and yes, he has had some challenges with no recruiting time his first year and COVID this year. I also get that he was trying to protect Bailey for a bit.

that said, while Pruitt clearly knows football, there has been a lot of issues with what he is putting on the field. Several of our losses this year were ridiculous.

I like JP but after 3 years, I should not be required to believe in him. I should be able to SEE the results with my eyes.[/QUOTE
Especially when 1st year HC's show results immediately
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Orange defense said:
In the last three games, Tennessee has seen its passing game take the next step. The Vols have passed for 240-plus yards in three straight games, marking the first time they have done that since the 2012 season – 381 at South Carolina, 530 vs. Troy, 432 vs. Missouri. It's also the first time that UT has passed for 240-plus yards in three straight SEC games since 2009 – 259 vs. Auburn, 310 vs. Georgia, 265 at Alabama. Tennessee threw for 242 yards at Auburn on Nov. 21, 240 yards vs. No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5 and 328 yards in a win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12.

True freshman Harrison Bailey and sophomore J.T. Shrout each threw a pair of touchdowns in the win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12. It was the first time the Vols threw four or more touchdowns in a game since tallying four against No. 20 Florida on Sept. 24, 2016. In the last two games combined, Tennessee has thrown for six touchdowns and only one interception. The six TD passes is tied for the SEC lead with Alabama in the month of December. In the two December games, UT is 48-of-69 for 568 yards and a completion percentage of 69.6, which ranks third in the SEC behind Texas A&M (78.3) and Alabama (75.8).

Against No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5, Tennessee orchestrated three scoring drives of over 94 yards. It was the first time since at least 2003 that the Vols had three scoring drives of 90+ yards in a game. In a loss at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21, the Vols tallied 28 first downs, representing the most in the Jeremy Pruitt era. It was also the most first downs in a game by UT since recording 29 against Kentucky on Nov. 12, 2016. Tennessee has put up over 400 yards of total offense in two of its last three games, including a Pruitt-era-high 540 at Vanderbilt and 464 at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21.
If you just look, you will see that we're starting to show some identity. Pruitt is learning, he will get there.
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I appreciate what you're saying, but, I don't think this shows us that Pruitt is learning, as much as it shows us that he finally put someone else under center besides JG, and viola, we start getting a little consistency from the QB position.

JMO.
 
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patrick said:
FYI:

TN Offense - Ranked 117th in 3rd down conversions.

TN Offense - Ranked 94th in total offense.

TN Defense - Ranked 59th in total defense.

Winning % - Ranked 87th.

Scoring Offense - Ranked 104th.

Scoring Defense - Ranked 68th.

Pruitt Overall Record - 16 and 18; definite regression in wins and losses this season.

Pruitt is the worst Tennessee Football Coach in the last 50 years.
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Not by a long shot. That title goes to Botch Jones. Dobbs carried Botch. Look at what Botch did after Dobbs left and you can see the real Botch Jones.
 
#67
#67
The passing game looked better for one reason only, he finally decided to bench that suck that is JG. He's literally made no other decisions differently and this team is still awful. We don't hire people to learn in the job here.
 
#68
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Vol524 said:
Not by a long shot. That title goes to Botch Jones. Dobbs carried Botch. Look at what Botch did after Dobbs left and you can see the real Botch Jones.
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After Pruitt is fired (whether it is sooner or later), you will start hearing about all the garbage that has occurred behind the scenes from state-run media, just like with Jones and Dooley. Most media carry water for Pruitt just like they did for Dooley and Jones. Once Pruitt is fired, the damn will break - he is train wreck behind the scenes.
 
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Orange defense said:
In the last three games, Tennessee has seen its passing game take the next step. The Vols have passed for 240-plus yards in three straight games, marking the first time they have done that since the 2012 season – 381 at South Carolina, 530 vs. Troy, 432 vs. Missouri. It's also the first time that UT has passed for 240-plus yards in three straight SEC games since 2009 – 259 vs. Auburn, 310 vs. Georgia, 265 at Alabama. Tennessee threw for 242 yards at Auburn on Nov. 21, 240 yards vs. No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5 and 328 yards in a win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12.

True freshman Harrison Bailey and sophomore J.T. Shrout each threw a pair of touchdowns in the win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12. It was the first time the Vols threw four or more touchdowns in a game since tallying four against No. 20 Florida on Sept. 24, 2016. In the last two games combined, Tennessee has thrown for six touchdowns and only one interception. The six TD passes is tied for the SEC lead with Alabama in the month of December. In the two December games, UT is 48-of-69 for 568 yards and a completion percentage of 69.6, which ranks third in the SEC behind Texas A&M (78.3) and Alabama (75.8).

Against No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5, Tennessee orchestrated three scoring drives of over 94 yards. It was the first time since at least 2003 that the Vols had three scoring drives of 90+ yards in a game. In a loss at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21, the Vols tallied 28 first downs, representing the most in the Jeremy Pruitt era. It was also the most first downs in a game by UT since recording 29 against Kentucky on Nov. 12, 2016. Tennessee has put up over 400 yards of total offense in two of its last three games, including a Pruitt-era-high 540 at Vanderbilt and 464 at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21.
If you just look, you will see that we're starting to show some identity. Pruitt is learning, he will get there.
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So Mrs.Pruitt how is the house searching in Alabama going?
 
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patrick said:
After Pruitt is fired (whether it is sooner or later), you will start hearing about all the garbage that has occurred behind the scenes from state-run media, just like with Jones and Dooley. Most media carry water for Pruitt just like they did for Dooley and Jones. Once Pruitt is fired, the damn will break - he is train wreck behind the scenes.
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I don’t think it would ever be as bad as Dooley and Butch in terms of the media relationship. Pruitt has been very aggressive with media since day 1 as he clearly hates doing media obligations. I’m not naive to think there wouldn’t be any issues to come out if Pruitt is indeed fired, but I don’t think the number and magnitude of the ones to come out would be anything close to Butch and Dooley
 
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Orange defense said:
In the last three games, Tennessee has seen its passing game take the next step. The Vols have passed for 240-plus yards in three straight games, marking the first time they have done that since the 2012 season – 381 at South Carolina, 530 vs. Troy, 432 vs. Missouri. It's also the first time that UT has passed for 240-plus yards in three straight SEC games since 2009 – 259 vs. Auburn, 310 vs. Georgia, 265 at Alabama. Tennessee threw for 242 yards at Auburn on Nov. 21, 240 yards vs. No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5 and 328 yards in a win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12.

True freshman Harrison Bailey and sophomore J.T. Shrout each threw a pair of touchdowns in the win at Vanderbilt on Dec. 12. It was the first time the Vols threw four or more touchdowns in a game since tallying four against No. 20 Florida on Sept. 24, 2016. In the last two games combined, Tennessee has thrown for six touchdowns and only one interception. The six TD passes is tied for the SEC lead with Alabama in the month of December. In the two December games, UT is 48-of-69 for 568 yards and a completion percentage of 69.6, which ranks third in the SEC behind Texas A&M (78.3) and Alabama (75.8).

Against No. 6 Florida on Dec. 5, Tennessee orchestrated three scoring drives of over 94 yards. It was the first time since at least 2003 that the Vols had three scoring drives of 90+ yards in a game. In a loss at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21, the Vols tallied 28 first downs, representing the most in the Jeremy Pruitt era. It was also the most first downs in a game by UT since recording 29 against Kentucky on Nov. 12, 2016. Tennessee has put up over 400 yards of total offense in two of its last three games, including a Pruitt-era-high 540 at Vanderbilt and 464 at No. 21 Auburn on Nov. 21.
If you just look, you will see that we're starting to show some identity. Pruitt is learning, he will get there.
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But, you see, he didn't tell us when we hired him that he was going to wait till the end of year three and after record futility to start to learn.

So here's a compromise for you, op. We keep him and allow him several more years to gradually learn a little at a time on the job, but we also pay him as if that's what we're doing. $50,000 a year sounds about right for that. If he'll sign that contract, let's do it.

Makes sense, right?
 
#74
#74
Only took him to about game 8 or 9 in his 3rd season.....awesome.

Let's hand him a coloring book and see how he does with that too.
 
#75
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JMSqb11 said:
I don’t think it would ever be as bad as Dooley and Butch in terms of the media relationship. Pruitt has been very aggressive with media since day 1 as he clearly hates doing media obligations. I’m not naive to think there wouldn’t be any issues to come out if Pruitt is indeed fired, but I don’t think the number and magnitude of the ones to come out would be anything close to Butch and Dooley
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Well I would be proven right or wrong sooner or later because he will be fired. Firing an assistant coach at half-time is a horrible look - coupled with the fact that he did not even interview Brumbaugh - makes it even worse.
 
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