Justin Wilcox

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#151
JWs defenses have always been bend don't break...plus we have had 11 INTs over the last 4 games. Not too bad I would say
 
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I think Wilcox will be a great Defensive Coordinator. He struggled early with a young, inexperienced team and one of the most difficult schedules in the nation. Once the players began to learn the system and he shuffled a few key players to new positions the team started to play well. Yes, they gave up a lot of yardage by being determined to stop the big play but they epitomized the "bend but don't break" style of play.

Go Vols !!!
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
It's Wilcox first year and the talent level is down. Will wait and see how the defense does when he gets the right players for his system and they have more time to learn the defense. I'm guessing his defense requires being fundamentally sound. You don't become a well oiled machine overnight.
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This ^
 
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General_Neyland said:
Well....flame me if you want (I really dont care) but after watching our defense yesterday (which did in the end show up)...I seriously started questioning Wilcox's ability to coach defense in the SEC....the passes to Cobb over the middle were there every time and UK moved the ball most series with ease...as other teams have done this season...

Now we did get stops and the ball fell toward the Tennessee River which helped...but several games this season defense wise I really started wondering if he is capable of coaching defense in the fast paced SEC....

I almost think Chavis was a bit better and more suited to the SEC style of play...thoughts?
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based on the talent / experience of the defensive players, I think the defense ended year better than I expected. Really thought they would be horrible all year and I think they did look better as year went along. Of course I recognize that we played worse teams but the kids made progress.

Can't do anything about slow and undersized lienbackers and defensive linemen except recruit bigger and faster players. It will take 3-4 years to determine if this staff up to that task. based on makeup of the roster, there was nothing scheme wise that could have helped this year. Need more DBs also and need help there immediately..
 
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nbakerld said:
Montori Hughes may be defensive MVP. He is nowhere near our best defensive player but we are super thin at line. We can lose Jackson and Wagner and replace them with someone halfway decent. He is valuable because we are significantly worse playing with his back up.
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Hughes has MVP potential but he's a long ways from MVP. We have effectively played the last few games without him as he's done nothing and the Kentucky game actually without him and we did just fine.

You're confusing physical potential with reality.
 
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Let's see now. KY scored:
35 on Ole Piss
31 on SC
31 on GA
34 on Aub
What was it on TN?
Oh yes. 14points
Pretty bad days work.
 
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calban said:
Let's see now. KY scored:
35 on Ole Piss
31 on SC
31 on GA
34 on Aub
What was it on TN?
Oh yes. 14points
Pretty bad days work.
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WELL SAID, GIVE HIM TIME TO RECRUIT HIS PLAYERS AND THEN BASH HIM IF HE FAILS.
GO VOLS:salute:
 
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utmba93 said:
They broke a lot this year.
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what are you referring to?
bama? i think they are a pretty good team that few teams stopped
UGA? handed them most of their points off turnovers and the offense sucked that game too
USC? again handed them 21 off turnovers
oregon? who really has stopped them? (cal was a fluke and they have since proved it)
and they really did shut down lsu

so combine playing with what was essentially back ups (for which had no backups themselves) and walk ons at key positions with the schedule what else would you expect?
 
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txvolsfangatorh8r said:
what are you referring to?
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I think he is probably referring to the fact that we are 70th in the nation in total defense, 56th in scoring defense, 68th in sacks, 82nd in pass defense, 64th against the run. Those are pretty pedestrian numbers.

That being said, we had a lot of holes, and all of them were difficult to cover at once. The unit was depleted, and the results were, overall, not very good. I did think the showing against Kentucky was a high note on which to end the season.
 
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Superior talent at UT made Chavis look better than he is. Wilcox has "coached up" what he has worked with at UT this year. This is not to say that we are chopped liver, but we haven't had the depth or overall talent that Chavis worked with while he was here. The defense has gotten better as the season went on.
 
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WestTNVols said:
Superior talent at UT made Chavis look better than he is. Wilcox has "coached up" what he has worked with at UT this year. This is not to say that we are chopped liver, but we haven't had the depth or overall talent that Chavis worked with while he was here. The defense has gotten better as the season went on.
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Perfectly put
 
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TnScooby said:
I am bored so here is what I think about Wilcox..I have read so much about how Wilcox is too young, came from the WAC, not first choice, not ready for SEC, blah blah blah...IMO The guy can flat out coach, period...The WAC seems to be everybodys "lesser known" conference...well so be it...Everybody has to start somewhere...During the first three seasons with Wilcox in charge of the defense, Boise State led the Western Athletic Conference in total defense and scoring defense each year. In 2008 the Broncos led the WAC in total defense (308.2 yards per game), pass efficiency defense (94.4 rating) and scoring defense (12.6 points per game). Nationally, the Broncos finished 2008 ranked No. 2 in pass defense, No. 3 in scoring defense and No. 20 in total defense.
In both 2006 and 2007 the Broncos also led the WAC in rushing defense. In 2007 the Broncos were nationally ranked in pass efficiency defense (24th), total defense and scoring defense (25th), passing defense and sacks (26th), and rushing defense (35th). Nationally in 2006, Boise State was eighth in rushing defense, 14th in total defense, 20th in scoring defense, 28th in sacks, and 30th in pass efficiency defense. And the WAC is KNOWN for its high octane offenses. Wilcox’s defense was instrumental in helping the 2006 Boise State team to a 13-0 record and its now-famous 43-42 overtime win over Oklahoma in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.
The UT defense is nowhere near where I'm sure we would all like it to be right now but interceptions and red zone efficiency have been encouraging and given time, I am confident CJW will be able to devise adjustments and sign players that will allow him to shut down SEC offenses like he did in the WAC. He has not had time to get his players here at UT and until he can fit players into his system here, it is hard to even begin to evaluate him. I think this season has gone about as good as it could have defensively, all things considered. I'm sure this season was more of a learning experience for him than probably anybody else on the staff...
I understand he wasn't a "big name" to people at the time of his hiring but IMO his record definitely show he can get it done. Before everybody compares him to Monte Kiffin or John Chavis ,maybe it would be wise to see what he can do as Justin Wilcox....He obviously gets the most out of the talent he has, so even though the rest of the teams we play in the SEC are better than
the WAC, HIS talent will be better as well....IMO the next 2 recruiting classes will have his type of DL and secondary players to make his system more comfortable, leading to more of the success he had at Boise..
This guy just might become one of the best DC's in UT history, but until we have more to judge him by, at least give him some credit AND the benefit of the doubt!

JMHO (Please excuse my inability to keep my opinion brief)
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And without Wilcox they led the WAC in scoring defense (by 9 pts per game -- 4th in the country), rushing defense, passing defense, and total defense (by nearly 90 yards per game and 4th in the country). They gave up nearly 50 less yds per game than Wilcox's 2009 squad. And most of the year they were missing their best pass rusher. So, your stats aren't good evidence.
 
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papatomany said:
And without Wilcox they led the WAC in scoring defense (by 9 pts per game -- 4th in the country), rushing defense, passing defense, and total defense (by nearly 90 yards per game and 4th in the country). They gave up nearly 50 less yds per game than Wilcox's 2009 squad. And most of the year they were missing their best pass rusher. So, your stats aren't good evidence.
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Wilcox got those players in and set the foundation...It is the BEST evidence for their success this year...
 
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papatomany said:
And without Wilcox they led the WAC in scoring defense (by 9 pts per game -- 4th in the country), rushing defense, passing defense, and total defense (by nearly 90 yards per game and 4th in the country). They gave up nearly 50 less yds per game than Wilcox's 2009 squad. And most of the year they were missing their best pass rusher. So, your stats aren't good evidence.
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Probably helps that they returned virtually every starter, right? The one big game OOC game for both teams was Oregon for Wilcox and Va. Tech this year. Guess who fared better against a more explosive offense.
 
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kptvol said:
I actually thought UK would put up a lot of points. They are capable of running and passing. The two teams we shut down prior were 1 dimensional. I'm impressed he was able to hold them to 14 points.
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Don't forget they fumbled in the endzone and missed a FG
 
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TennesseeOrange said:
I think it was a combination of the lack of superior talent on the defensive side of the ball, and Wilcox having to make an adjustment to the SEC. He was up and down, but I'm excited to see what he does next year.
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We lose Reviez-Walker-Thompson-Williams off the front 7 and need some juco guys to step right in to be much better IMO...
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
It's Wilcox first year and the talent level is down. Will wait and see how the defense does when he gets the right players for his system and they have more time to learn the defense. I'm guessing his defense requires being fundamentally sound. You don't become a well oiled machine overnight.
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Exactly this.
 
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Yeah the argument about them losing a fumble and then missing a FG is not a very good one. I agree with Big Orange Bo. That's just football. You could sit down and analyze a 100 different plays during a game that might change the outcome or affect the stats. All that matters is the end result and that is a W for the Vols, a L for the P****cats, and the big orange nation headed to a bowl game. Keeping one of the SEC's top offenses to only 14 points is a plus and in my mind a great job done by the DC.
 
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TnScooby said:
Wilcox got those players in and set the foundation...It is the BEST evidence for their success this year...
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So, the team would have to be worse without him to indicate that he was bad?

Very clever of you to choose "evidence" that you can use no matter how it pans out. Unfortunately, if it is evidence at all, it shows that Peterson is the defensive genius. Coach them up all you want to, there's still scheming (you know, actual hands-on play calling) involved and apparently the scheming didn't leave when Wilcox did.

Anyhow, this was just about using numbers to show success, not really about what I think about Wilcox at all. I think he'll be fine with good players (just like any good DC). It looks to me like his philosophy is, "As long as we make you work for it, and are in position, we can force a mistake." I think as the talent level rises so will the number of takeaways, which is great. It's a good philosophy, I just prefer the, "We're going to shut you down, you're going to have to really make some plays to beat us," philosophy.
 
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