Justin Coleman at the combine

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Actually J.C. had a pretty good year leaving out the Alabama game where he was torched by Cooper when the moved him in the slot against Coleman in the nickel man to man.

He seems best suited for the nickel with the team that plays primary zone. He's good at cutting underneath routes and a decent tackler.

I wish him well.
 
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Finished really strong but draft stock is still unknown. The problem with the later rounds of the NFL draft is teams tend to take chances on smaller school players, thus forcing bigger school players to go undrafted. Coleman didn't hurt his stock today so that's the bright side. Drafted or undrafted, JC should have solidified himself a training camp spot with his combine performance today.
 
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I always thought that JC looked very strong so I'm not too surprised by his combine. He seemed to get burned frequently at corner but he could lay the wood on people and I thought he tackled well too.
 
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he pulled a zack rogers. Period. If you didnt break at least 1 remote for your tv at some point in the 26 times this kid got housed for a td in the 2 years leading up to his senior season then you didnt watch much UT football. Seemed like EVERY GAME. When he got torched 1 on 1 vs utah st to start the season i thought nothing had changed. He turned it around bigtime and we would have probably lost to SC without his pick. Very happy for the kid. I have dog cussed him from my living room more times than any vol i can remember and now he will probably play on sundays. Go vols!
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Combine numbers don't make football ability. Good luck to Coleman no matter what, but he made a career out of getting torched. I'm personally happy we won't be trotting him out there again.
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He did get torched early throughout his career...but played incredibly well last season at the nickel. The best thing for JC is that he's strong and quick. His 3-Cone number of 6.61 is beyond impressive. Recall the Patriots CB that broke on that ball and made that pick to win the Super Bowl....tough DB's that can tackle and are that quick are hard to come by. He'll get drafted, I promise. Good job by you JC. Wish you luck.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
guess he got some geometry tutoring in the off season.
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That was funny!

Hope he gets drafted and has a long career in the NFL. The last time a Vol wasn't drafted was in 1963! I dont know what the longest active streak is but I would hate for the Vols streak to be broken.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Combine numbers don't make football ability. Good luck to Coleman no matter what, but he made a career out of getting torched. I'm personally happy we won't be trotting him out there again.
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What negativity?! I'll bet you're a real hoot at parties.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
he pulled a zack rogers. Period. If you didnt break at least 1 remote for your tv at some point in the 26 times this kid got housed for a td in the 2 years leading up to his senior season then you didnt watch much UT football. Seemed like EVERY GAME. When he got torched 1 on 1 vs utah st to start the season i thought nothing had changed. He turned it around bigtime and we would have probably lost to SC without his pick. Very happy for the kid. I have dog cussed him from my living room more times than any vol i can remember and now he will probably play on sundays. Go vols!
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Teague is also up there as far as getting cussed, at least in my household. Richardson too for his 1000 false starts and holds last year
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
he pulled a zack rogers. Period. If you didnt break at least 1 remote for your tv at some point in the 26 times this kid got housed for a td in the 2 years leading up to his senior season then you didnt watch much UT football. Seemed like EVERY GAME. When he got torched 1 on 1 vs utah st to start the season i thought nothing had changed. He turned it around bigtime and we would have probably lost to SC without his pick. Very happy for the kid. I have dog cussed him from my living room more times than any vol i can remember and now he will probably play on sundays. Go vols!
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I remember cursing at art evans more than anyone else in recent memory. It seemed there for a couple years every time they showed a pre-game highlight of another team scoring it was on the Vols and he was the one getting beat
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Combine numbers don't make football ability. Good luck to Coleman no matter what, but he made a career out of getting torched. I'm personally happy we won't be trotting him out there again.
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I am fullly aware of that however, his measurables were better than I thought they would be heading into the combine. Certainty enough for some teams to give him a look in the later rounds.

Maybe I am just trying to hold out hope that a Vol will get drafted this year and Justin is our best shot at that but I do believe there is still upside in Justin's game.
 
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Coleman played a ton of SEC football against the best receivers in the nation week in and week out. For most of his career there were weak defensive lines and not a whole lot of help for the secondary. In the right situation Justin could be productive in the NFL. Good luck to him.
 
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Could at least be a good special teams player. His overaggresive tendencies on trying to jump underneath routes probably made him look slower than he was. Good luck jc.
 
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May be a late rd, probable undrafted FA. He'll be a serviceable, not an every down DB and formidable ST player. The one poor fundemental that has plagued and will continue to impede his growth --- finding the 'ball. Needs to get his head on a swivel.

Coleman's a good athlete. People complained some called him "toast", could / would not understand why he continued to play let alone start. Martinez (Jancek and Jones) knew what they had (and did not have) in Coleman, the player.
 
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Remarkable how many there were a couple of years ago blaming Coleman's lack of speed for why UT's D wasn't very good.
 
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zero-sum said:
May be a late rd, probable undrafted FA. He'll be a serviceable, not an every down DB and formidable ST player. The one poor fundemental that has plagued and will continue to impede his growth --- finding the 'ball. Needs to get his head on a swivel.

Coleman's a good athlete. People complained some called him "toast", could / would not understand why he continued to play let alone start. Martinez (Jancek and Jones) knew what they had (and did not have) in Coleman, the player.
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Exactly. This isn't a knock on Coleman as a player... but when you're a SR on a youth-laden defense and you're pushed inside by a true freshman (that is undersized to begin with) that's a pretty big statement.

Of course, the coaches will say it's to take advantage of his "physicality" and Coleman was without a doubt a physical player but his weaknesses were always lateral movement and especially how slow he was to shift and scoot downfield. He's about as fast top-end and in the 20y shuttle as I thought he'd be.

His issues were always with appropriate read/react and being victimized because he was too aggressive. This happened against both USC and Bama Coopers most notably. When an opposing OC moves his best player to the slot to specifically attack Coleman... that's also a clear statement.
 
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sjt18 said:
Remarkable how many there were a couple of years ago blaming Coleman's lack of speed for why UT's D wasn't very good.
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a 4.53s 40 isn't great for a CB. Usually the great CBs that are that slow are about 3-4" taller than Coleman.

Coleman's problem is he's a 6'2 CB stuck in a 5'11 CBs frame. He's great underneath against shifty types but he is exposed against WRs with great top end speed.

David Amerson, a 6'2" CB that runs a 4.35s 40' got exposed against UT, why? Decision making and a 4.3s WR that knows where he is going will often times win out against a 4.3s CB that takes .5s too long to shift into a deep route. That's how UT completely eviscerated Amerson. We made him constantly react to routes.

Coleman did that.

And Coleman was another .2s slower in the 40. That's a big difference when that is the difference in .6 yards covered a second. That's 1.8 feet. That's why the slower CBs are usually much taller. They have the height to compensate for separation.

Oh, look at that, from the NFL Combine page:

Weaknesses
Short and slightly undersized for run-supporting nickel. Struggles to consistently mirror and match when challenged on outside. Plus route runners will turn him around. A shade slow to transition on throws in front of him. Will give up separation on crossers and verticals. Gets to catch point a shade early and could see more flags in NFL. Average hips with questionable speed.
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That's what he did all 2014. And 2013.
 
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I've came to the conclusion I watched a different team last year. Because everytime there was a 60 yard catch it said Coleman with the coverage.
 
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oregonvol said:
Turns out, the answer to your question is "Justin Coleman"
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Damn Oregon. Went back into the archives for that one. How do you even do that? Btw, was originally discussing the "crop" of DBs for the 2 teams that were eligible for last year's draft. And, you're surely not gonna tell me you saw Coleman putting up these combine numbers based on his play at UT. The point was, if I recall correctly, that Vanderbilt had better NFL DB prospects for the 2014 draft.....which they did.
 
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RetardedElf said:
I remember cursing at art evans more than anyone else in recent memory. It seemed there for a couple years every time they showed a pre-game highlight of another team scoring it was on the Vols and he was the one getting beat
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Ha yes Art Evans! I hope he's got a great life but man I'm glad he's not still playing!
 
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