Just watched UT v UF 6 days late

[jaxvol]

Late observations before getting ready for tomorrow's game. I was at my oldest son's wedding in California and just got a chance to see the game today. I have been reading all the chatter on this board in the meantime.

Watching on YouTube with fast forward so I was able to see the whole game in under two hours.

I felt there were two key turning points.

First, Joe's INT. If we could have maintained that drive we might have gotten to half leading. The INT and the quick UF score killed us and got the night crowd in the Swamp to a frenzy. We followed with a quick 3-out and another UF score. basically 14 UF points in about 6 minutes. I had flashbacks to the crowd UGA last year. I've been to Swamp 6-7 times and it can be brutal.

Second, the opening drive of the second half. Joe was sleepwalking. First play fumble and recovery. Then later in drive two timeouts with the turbo offence stuck in 1st gear. A couple missed chances to snap the ball early to catch UF with subs on the field. A 5:29 drive for a field goal when trailing by 16, 9 running plays, and a false start.

Depending on how you count we were missing 2 starters on offense and 2 on defence. Playing SEC night road game against a rival.

The team didn't look ready to play. As I said before - flashback to UGA with the crowd. I still think we can have a 10-2, 9-3 season as I think this team will mature and come together as the season progresses.

I was glad I didn't endure it in real time, but still think the season can be salvaged.

 

[Crunch]

Late observations before getting ready for tomorrow's game. I was at my oldest son's wedding in California and just got a chance to see the game today. I have been reading all the chatter on this board in the meantime.

Watching on YouTube with fast forward so I was able to see the whole game in under two hours.

I felt there were two key turning points.

First, Joe's INT. If we could have maintained that drive we might have gotten to half leading. The INT and the quick UF score killed us and got the night crowd in the Swamp to a frenzy. We followed with a quick 3-out and another UF score. basically 14 UF points in about 6 minutes. I had flashbacks to the crowd UGA last year. I've been to Swamp 6-7 times and it can be brutal.

Second, the opening drive of the second half. Joe was sleepwalking. First play fumble and recovery. Then later in drive two timeouts with the turbo offence stuck in 1st gear. A couple missed chances to snap the ball early to catch UF with subs on the field. A 5:29 drive for a field goal when trailing by 16, 9 running plays, and a false start.

Depending on how you count we were missing 2 starters on offense and 2 on defence. Playing SEC night road game against a rival.

The team didn't look ready to play. As I said before - flashback to UGA with the crowd. I still think we can have a 10-2, 9-3 season as I think this team will mature and come together as the season progresses.

I was glad I didn't endure it in real time, but still think the season can be salvaged.

Milton's interception literally flipped the field on us lost us the game before it really even started. No idea why more people aren't addressing this.

You can't go down two scores in the swamp off a turnover and expect to win. You just can't.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

The Etienne TD run was the first big turning point, imo. After we blocked their first field goal and scored quickly like we did, I imagine a lot of UF fans were thinking “well here we go” and we let them off the hook immediately.

 

[Voldawg1970]

Was they outcome any better this time???

 

[MadWorld]

The ref kick was big too.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Milton's interception literally flipped the field on us lost us the game before it really even started. No idea why more people aren't addressing this.

You can't go down two scores in the swamp off a turnover and expect to win. You just can't.

That interception was brutal.

 

[MajinBooCarter]

mostly agree with your takes, but i do think three other major moments that cant be counted out are the 4th and 1 ball kick by the ref, the no call on pass interference in the endzone on thorton, and the crackblock penalty on castles that shouldnt have been called, beyond this the underlying presnap penalities and in general ollie lane hurt us alot

 

[allvols4life]

The Etienne TD run was the first big turning point, imo. After we blocked their first field goal and scored quickly like we did, I imagine a lot of UF fans were thinking “well here we go” and we let them off the hook immediately.

THIS!

 

[Flipdaddy]

Late observations before getting ready for tomorrow's game. I was at my oldest son's wedding in California and just got a chance to see the game today. I have been reading all the chatter on this board in the meantime.

Watching on YouTube with fast forward so I was able to see the whole game in under two hours.

I felt there were two key turning points.

First, Joe's INT. If we could have maintained that drive we might have gotten to half leading. The INT and the quick UF score killed us and got the night crowd in the Swamp to a frenzy. We followed with a quick 3-out and another UF score. basically 14 UF points in about 6 minutes. I had flashbacks to the crowd UGA last year. I've been to Swamp 6-7 times and it can be brutal.

Second, the opening drive of the second half. Joe was sleepwalking. First play fumble and recovery. Then later in drive two timeouts with the turbo offence stuck in 1st gear. A couple missed chances to snap the ball early to catch UF with subs on the field. A 5:29 drive for a field goal when trailing by 16, 9 running plays, and a false start.

Depending on how you count we were missing 2 starters on offense and 2 on defence. Playing SEC night road game against a rival.

The team didn't look ready to play. As I said before - flashback to UGA with the crowd. I still think we can have a 10-2, 9-3 season as I think this team will mature and come together as the season progresses.

I was glad I didn't endure it in real time, but still think the season can be salvaged.

With Joe running the show, we are 6-6 maybe.

 

[Crunch]

That interception was brutal.

Worst interception I've seen by any Tennessee QB in a very long time and it indicates the level of fear that Milton is playing with. It was a total moment of utter panic from him.

Yeah the oline ain't doing him many favors but my god he holds onto the ball way too long and is timid asf looking out there.

 

[jaxvol]

mostly agree with your takes, but i do think three other major moments that cant be counted out are the 4th and 1 ball kick by the ref, the no call on pass interference in the endzone on thorton, and the crackblock penalty on castles that shouldnt have been called, beyond this the underlying presnap penalities and in general ollie lane hurt us alot

Although I agree these were big issues, I try not to blame the refs -- even if these should be be watching from home for the rest of the season.

 

[driscokid]

Late observations before getting ready for tomorrow's game. I was at my oldest son's wedding in California and just got a chance to see the game today. I have been reading all the chatter on this board in the meantime.

Watching on YouTube with fast forward so I was able to see the whole game in under two hours.

I felt there were two key turning points.

First, Joe's INT. If we could have maintained that drive we might have gotten to half leading. The INT and the quick UF score killed us and got the night crowd in the Swamp to a frenzy. We followed with a quick 3-out and another UF score. basically 14 UF points in about 6 minutes. I had flashbacks to the crowd UGA last year. I've been to Swamp 6-7 times and it can be brutal.

Second, the opening drive of the second half. Joe was sleepwalking. First play fumble and recovery. Then later in drive two timeouts with the turbo offence stuck in 1st gear. A couple missed chances to snap the ball early to catch UF with subs on the field. A 5:29 drive for a field goal when trailing by 16, 9 running plays, and a false start.

Depending on how you count we were missing 2 starters on offense and 2 on defence. Playing SEC night road game against a rival.

The team didn't look ready to play. As I said before - flashback to UGA with the crowd. I still think we can have a 10-2, 9-3 season as I think this team will mature and come together as the season progresses.

I was glad I didn't endure it in real time, but still think the season can be salvaged.

I think the int and Kamal Hadden’s whiff on that run really hurt. I also think Florida benefitted from playing a tough Utah team vs our first two pretty soft opponents. Playing a pretty tough Pitt team the last two years probably helped the team grow faster

 

[Crunch]

I think the int and Kamal Hadden’s whiff on that run really hurt. I also think Florida benefitted from playing a tough Utah team vs our first two pretty soft opponents. Playing a pretty tough Pitt team the last two years probably helped the team grow faster

Those two plays were basically a potential 21 point swing early on in Florida 's favor.

Hadden and Milton have one thing in common:

They both suck and would never in a million years see the field at a program like UGA or even LSU for that matter.

I would say Bama as well , but they are clearly at the end of Saban's run now and for the first time in a very LONG time have failed to recruit a good QB.

 

[jaxvol]

I think the int and Kamal Hadden’s whiff on that run really hurt. I also think Florida benefitted from playing a tough Utah team vs our first two pretty soft opponents. Playing a pretty tough Pitt team the last two years probably helped the team grow faster

I hate it when a defensive player wants to make a big hit instead of wrapping up the runner. You even see this in the NFL now.

I was a small DB in high school, but made up for it by being slow. If I didn't wrap up, it was off to the races.

 

[LargeOrange1]

With Joe running the show, we are 6-6 maybe.

I suspect Joe's football acumen ain't what Hendon's was......

 

[CaliVol2009]

With Joe running the show, we are 6-6 maybe.

Lol, yeah right

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

6 days late.. Just like our corners

 

[jaxvol]

I suspect Joe's football acumen ain't what Hendon's was......

Well at least Joe is mentoring Nico.

 

[AlsaceFreak]

I attended the game in Gainesville. It was very loud. In my opinion louder than the Tenn/Bama game I attended last year.
No one has been stating this...... but it was really Milton's first road game. The Vandy game was mostly Tennessee fans, so it was like a home game. The Orange Bowl was way more Tennessee fans because of our miraculous season and the fact that Clemson just lost to South Carolina and was having an off season compared to years past.

There is so much to discuss about what went wrong. That environment had much more of a factor than some of these issues being discussed.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Milton's interception literally flipped the field on us lost us the game before it really even started. No idea why more people aren't addressing this.

You can't go down two scores in the swamp off a turnover and expect to win. You just can't.

Look up “literally”.

 

[Flipdaddy]

I suspect Joe's football acumen ain't what Hendon's was......

Absolutely not. I wanted him to succeed so bad but it’s like a marriage where no matter how much you love them, it just ain’t gonna work.

 

[Credo2]

Save yourself some time and just have a total stranger kick you in the nuts

 

[Crunch]

I attended the game in Gainesville. It was very loud. In my opinion louder than the Tenn/Bama game I attended last year.
No one has been stating this...... but it was really Milton's first road game. The Vandy game was mostly Tennessee fans, so it was like a home game. The Orange Bowl was way more Tennessee fans because of our miraculous season and the fact that Clemson just lost to South Carolina and was having an off season compared to years past.

There is so much to discuss about what went wrong. That environment had much more of a factor than some of these issues being discussed.

And what about at home against Austin Peay? Minus the interception, our passing offense actually played better against Florida overall than AP.

But to address your point, mentally weak QBs fold quickly under pressure and loud noise. So do weak lines.

Our three players/starters on the team that are single handedly making us a bad football team when you combine them together are Hadden, the backup center and Milton in that order.

We obviously can't bench the center until Mays is back but Hadden and Milton both have talented young backups behind them.

My thing is this. We are a really bad football team right now.

If we are going to be bad, let's at least do it in preparation to get a lot better by the end of this season and heading into next year.

Milton and Hadden both should have never ever seen any starting time in a Tennessee uniform in any timeline. Both are careeer backup material, nothing more.

And both have zero 'dawg' in them whatsoever.

Hadden squaring up to try and throw hands was hilarious. That kid is soft. UF's punter could probably kick his ass.

 

[lifeisdeep]

Although I agree these were big issues, I try not to blame the refs -- even if these should be be watching from home for the rest of the season.

Not blaming the refs for that game is like saying the last Presidential election was completely above board.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I attended the game in Gainesville. It was very loud. In my opinion louder than the Tenn/Bama game I attended last year.
No one has been stating this...... but it was really Milton's first road game. The Vandy game was mostly Tennessee fans, so it was like a home game. The Orange Bowl was way more Tennessee fans because of our miraculous season and the fact that Clemson just lost to South Carolina and was having an off season compared to years past.

There is so much to discuss about what went wrong. That environment had much more of a factor than some of these issues being discussed.

That’s why giving up the long run TD was such a big deal. We had a chance to take the crowd out of the game early after our first crisp drive of the season and then we give up a garbage run like that and bring the crowd roaring back to life.