Just to add to the misery...

#26
#26
We need a QB, and we desperately need an infusion to the dline like we got with Wright and Morris on the offensive side. We have a stud db committed and a qb. If we can somehow show enough to keep another great class I could see a way out of this disaster. I’m just afraid we are blowing it. A 6 win season would probably reel in another solid class. But that seems about as likely as us winning the SEC east at this point.
 
#27
#27
I think you’re spot on with culture. And I’m not even sure how you shake it or how it got started. There is a distinct feeling, or curse, about everyone expecting the worst .

Well, and it’s little things.

Example: yesterday was a first in another respect.

I’ve never seen a team run for about 250 yards in a game that had no faith (justifiably so) that they could get a yard or two on the ground when they had to.
 
#28
#28
Well, and it’s little things.

Example: yesterday was a first in another respect.

I’ve never seen a team run for about 250 yards in a game that had no faith (justifiably so) that they could get a yard or two on the ground when they had to.

How do you overcome that?There doesn’t seem to be an answer as it’s been a problem through the last several coaches
 
#29
#29
yep, the good ol' days when we expected to win...yes, I remember them well...time and good recruiting is the only healing salve...:D

GO BIG ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#30
#30
So the staff has to coach around the 4th year QB because they can't trust his decision making and you want to lay the game on one breakdown by a couple of guys who played well for most of the night?

There will always be "mistakes". But the D held BYU to 16 points in regulation. Might have been less if JG hadn't handed them a gift by throwing a perfect pass to one of their LB's.


Coaches will work to correct the mistakes you're talking about. A sophomore CB is still a young player. They'll likely replace guys who don't improve.

The question is whether than have the nerve and wisdom to give up on a 4th year QB who still can't deal with the speed of the game.
JG gave them three gifts not one. He was lucky that the first one was a 100 mph fast ball that bounced off the defender to JJ, and the third one JJ was lucky enough to take it away from the defender.
 
#31
#31
So the staff has to coach around the 4th year QB because they can't trust his decision making and you want to lay the game on one breakdown by a couple of guys who played well for most of the night?

There will always be "mistakes". But the D held BYU to 16 points in regulation. Might have been less if JG hadn't handed them a gift by throwing a perfect pass to one of their LB's.


Coaches will work to correct the mistakes you're talking about. A sophomore CB is still a young player. They'll likely replace guys who don't improve.

The question is whether than have the nerve and wisdom to give up on a 4th year QB who still can't deal with the speed of the game.
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#32
#32
Jg gift wrapped 11 points, just sayin.
So the staff has to coach around the 4th year QB because they can't trust his decision making and you want to lay the game on one breakdown by a couple of guys who played well for most of the night?

There will always be "mistakes". But the D held BYU to 16 points in regulation. Might have been less if JG hadn't handed them a gift by throwing a perfect pass to one of their LB's.


Coaches will work to correct the mistakes you're talking about. A sophomore CB is still a young player. They'll likely replace guys who don't improve.

The question is whether than have the nerve and wisdom to give up on a 4th year QB who still can't deal with the speed of the game.
 
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#33
#33
JG gave them three gifts not one. He was lucky that the first one was a 100 mph fast ball that bounced off the defender to JJ, and the third one JJ was lucky enough to take it away from the defender.
You forget the TD that wasn't because instead of throwing to a wide open JJ, he had to stand and wait for it AND the defender to get there. We turned that into 3 instead of 7.
 
#34
#34
Well, and it’s little things.

Example: yesterday was a first in another respect.

I’ve never seen a team run for about 250 yards in a game that had no faith (justifiably so) that they could get a yard or two on the ground when they had to.
I give Chaney allot of credit for sticking with that off tackle stretch play 35+ times. Of those 240+ yards I'm guessing only about 40 yards came running between the tackles.

This was a game were we should have been able to heavily exploit their secondary from the get go useing the pass to loosen them up in the box and establish our run game between the tackles.

Chaney saw JG's erraticness and had to chuck his game plan. I just can't see having scripted that repeated run play to use over and over as a game plan.
BYU defensive line isn't a joke but we're gonna need allot more in our bag of tricks against FL with those man eating DE's that can set the edge you got.
 
#35
#35
JG gave them three gifts not one. He was lucky that the first one was a 100 mph fast ball that bounced off the defender to JJ, and the third one JJ was lucky enough to take it away from the defender.
JG was lucky Jennings is Alpha enough to take that ball away. One of the real sickening things about this whole deal is how the talent of Jennings and Callaway is being completely squandered.
 
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#36
#36
I give Chaney allot of credit for sticking with that off tackle stretch play 35+ times. Of those 240+ yards I'm guessing only about 40 yards came running between the tackles.

This was a game were we should have been able to heavily exploit their secondary from the get go useing the pass to loosen them up in the box and establish our run game between the tackles.

Chaney saw JG's erraticness and had to chuck his game plan. I just can't see having scripted that repeated run play to use over and over as a game plan.
BYU defensive line isn't a joke but we're gonna need allot more in our bag of tricks against FL with those man eating DE's that can set the edge you got.

I can remember a stat that used to be quoted all the time, years ago. Whenever a Tennessee rb had a 100 yards, we won
 
#37
#37
I can remember a stat that used to be quoted all the time, years ago. Whenever a Tennessee rb had a 100 yards, we won
Game time moved faster but game was played allot slower back in the long long ago . . . . ....
Less passing = less clock stoppage = considerably less snaps a game as opposed to now.. . . ....
Heck, it was almost unheard of to run a successful multi-play 2min offense without all 3 timeouts.

Awe. The good ole days of nostalgia when a 100yrd performance was a benchmark of success and we were good.
 
#38
#38
Even with the deep ball he always throws late. The pass to Jennings that got broken up at the goal line is a really good example. The overthrow of Palmer is an anomaly. He's so predictably late that he almost never overthrows a deep ball.

He just can't seem to anticipate all those bodies in motion and make an instinctive decision on when and where to deliver the ball. If he throws that pass to Jennings a half a count sooner and out in front... its a TD with 3 or 4 yards of separation. Being late allowed their defender to catch up.

In other words his timing is bad regardless if he throws late or if he leads the receiver on the long ball which he rarely connects on.
 
#39
#39
We should have been in the most safe prevent ever at that point. So, yes, the execution was awful no doubt, but the coaches should have never allowed for that possibility.
We were. We were in the “the most safe prevent ever”, but our CB inexplicably let a guy run right past him and our safety, who’s been awful since the day he stepped on campus, completely whiffed, as usual, on what should’ve been a routine tackle for a legit SEC safety to make.
 
#40
#40
If there was ever a time for targeting, that was it. Warrior should have knocked that kid out.

I know I know, don't want the kid hurt, just knocked out.
 
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#41
Yet there aren’t thousands of posts calling for him to be benched. QB always gets too much credit and too much blame.

Other than the center, the QB handles the ball more than any other offensive player, and is critical to the outcome of every offensive play. The safety might be involved in 1-3 important defensive plays per game.
 
#42
#42
Yet there aren’t thousands of posts calling for him to be benched. QB always gets too much credit and too much blame.
One thing that saved him from having 3 INT's, is the velocity at which he throws bad passes and Jauan Stickum Jennings .
 
#44
#44
We were. We were in the “the most safe prevent ever”, but our CB inexplicably let a guy run right past him and our safety, who’s been awful since the day he stepped on campus, completely whiffed, as usual, on what should’ve been a routine tackle for a legit SEC safety to make.

Disagree. Cornerback was playing too tight.
 
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