Just pointing something out.

#26
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VolFreakJosh said:
Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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I guess is wasn't whats best for Georgia to hire Kirby. I guess it wasn't whats best for Clemson to hire Dabo. I guess it wasn't whats best for Oklahoma to hire Lincoln. Instead of hiring coordinators and going to the playoff this year, they should have hired a "proven" head coaches... Come on man this isn't Butch or Dooley. Pruitt has 4 rings and has spent years under some of the best to ever do it.. Get behind this guy and let's go!
 
#27
#27
WestTnHawk said:
I can't be the only one that thinks it's too early to call on Kirby? He walked into a loaded roster (21 SRs?). The worst east in history (UF and UT historically bad). On top of that he split his west games 1-1. He won the one that mattered in what was basically a home game, got thumped in the the true road game. On top of that he never played Bama. Not quite ready to anoint him yet.
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I agree
 
#28
#28
Meh. If Pruitt is the hire, our AD and all the talking heads on campus have let us down once again. Other teams get exciting hires, hires that instill confidence in their fanbase. We get google coaches and head-scratchers that make no sense. At this point, I'm starting to think we might as well just start accepting we suck, because our leadership routinely fails to deliver us the kind of coach we want. Some of you will try to dress it up as more than it is. God bless you for it. My positive vibes have been used up over the last ten years, so I'm sorry, I just can't believe a Pruitt hire is a good thing. If I'm lucky, which I can tell you most of my luck is bad luck, Pruitt will prove me wrong, because no matter what, my blood will always run orange. I just don't have any faith to believe anymore. Sucks to think of the struggles most likely ahead, only to find ourselves right back here at this same point in a few years.
 
#30
#30
Munarb said:
I will definitely support Pruitt. I will just be glad its not Greg ****ing Schiano or Kevin ****ing Steele. But its still negligence to not interview Mike Leach.
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No negligence is not calling Lane Kiffin.

Ego and pride aside, the guy can coach
 
#31
#31
yourstruly23 said:
I guess is wasn't whats best for Georgia to hire Kirby. I guess it wasn't whats best for Clemson to hire Dabo. I guess it wasn't whats best for Oklahoma to hire Lincoln. Instead of hiring coordinators and going to the playoff this year, they should have hired a "proven" head coaches... Come on man this isn't Butch or Dooley. Pruitt has 4 rings and has spent years under some of the best to ever do it.. Get behind this guy and let's go!
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Pruitt's resume has been helped greatly by having all 4 and 5 star players to work with at bama. He wont have that luxury here for some time.
 
#32
#32
Sitting head coach is someone who is set in their ways with an infallible system. Coordinator is hungry to prove himself and willing to listen to the people he brings in. Not a blanket statement but something that can't be ignored either.
 
#33
#33
Any one of these coaches might turn out to be good or even great. But it’s a gamble that our program could absolutely not afford, especially after the Schiano debacle.

I wouldn’t put money on any of them being able to turn things around at UT.
 
#34
#34
Weezer said:
Meh. If Pruitt is the hire, our AD and all the talking heads on campus have let us down once again. Other teams get exciting hires, hires that instill confidence in their fanbase. We get google coaches and head-scratchers that make no sense. At this point, I'm starting to think we might as well just start accepting we suck, because our leadership routinely fails to deliver us the kind of coach we want. Some of you will try to dress it up as more than it is. God bless you for it. My positive vibes have been used up over the last ten years, so I'm sorry, I just can't believe a Pruitt hire is a good thing. If I'm lucky, which I can tell you most of my luck is bad luck, Pruitt will prove me wrong, because no matter what, my blood will always run orange. I just don't have any faith to believe anymore. Sucks to think of the struggles most likely ahead, only to find ourselves right back here at this same point in a few years.
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Pruitt would be be light years better than Steele. At least with Pruitt, there’s a chance UT will be good. With Steele there is only a proven record of awful, and I mean god awful, award winning levels of awful.
 
#36
#36
zydane47 said:
No negligence is not calling Lane Kiffin.

Ego and pride aside, the guy can coach
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no doubt Kiffin was a rat b@stard when he left here but it is clear he has grown into a very formidable coach
 
#37
#37
golfballs said:
Any one of these coaches might turn out to be good or even great. But it’s a gamble that our program could absolutely not afford, especially after the Schiano debacle.

I wouldn’t put money on any of them being able to turn things around at UT.
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We have to gamble. There’s no other option right now. If Currie had done his job correctly from the get go maybe we’d gotten a proven HC splashy hire, just too late now.
 
#38
#38
Weezer said:
Meh. If Pruitt is the hire, our AD and all the talking heads on campus have let us down once again. Other teams get exciting hires, hires that instill confidence in their fanbase. We get google coaches and head-scratchers that make no sense. At this point, I'm starting to think we might as well just start accepting we suck, because our leadership routinely fails to deliver us the kind of coach we want. Some of you will try to dress it up as more than it is. God bless you for it. My positive vibes have been used up over the last ten years, so I'm sorry, I just can't believe a Pruitt hire is a good thing. If I'm lucky, which I can tell you most of my luck is bad luck, Pruitt will prove me wrong, because no matter what, my blood will always run orange. I just don't have any faith to believe anymore. Sucks to think of the struggles most likely ahead, only to find ourselves right back here at this same point in a few years.
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I agree! Im with you on everything you said.
 
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#39
#39
Say Pruitt gets the job and knocks it out of the park. Then as soon as Saban retires he jumps ship for Alabama. He played for Alabama, and I am guessing that would be his dream job. I would rather take a chance on Tee. VFL
 
#40
#40
VolFreakJosh said:
Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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Word is Fulmer contacted several name coaches directly and was politely rebuffed. We don’t even know who all he talked to in NY. Once the “proven” commodities turned him down it was clear he wanted a defensive minded coach.

There is nothing wrong with going from Coordinator to HC at a big program.

3 of the playoff teams this year had that exact scenario.
 
#41
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Cosmo said:
Say Pruitt gets the job and knocks it out of the park. Then as soon as Saban retires he jumps ship for Alabama. He played for Alabama, and I am guessing that would be his dream job. I would rather take a chance on Tee. VFL
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By then we’ll have our pick of coaches
 
#42
#42
Cosmo said:
Say Pruitt gets the job and knocks it out of the park. Then as soon as Saban retires he jumps ship for Alabama. He played for Alabama, and I am guessing that would be his dream job. I would rather take a chance on Tee. VFL
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So be it. Saban doesn’t look close to retirement and I’m sure Dabo will be their top pick.

If Pruitt comes here and knocks it out of the park then it will be much easier to replace him anyway.
 
#43
#43
Any of these top SEC DCs would probably assemble a staff that’s much better than our last two staffs, as well as whoever a sitting HC would have brought with him. Hopefully, the staff will be so strong that the new HC can’t fail.
 
#44
#44
skyrookie said:
Why interview someone you don't want.dummy
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You interview them to:

1) To gain insight as to how the candidate thinks
2) To get their view of your operation
3) To use interest as salary leverage against who you DO want to hire so as you are not writing a blank check.

JMHO.

GBO!
 
#45
#45
UTK said:
I think it’s pretty questionable to go with a Pruitt over Leach. But. Our last three HCs had “HC experience” and look how they turned out. Yes neither really were as good HCs as Leach is now although Butchs record was pretty decent. But still. They had HC experience. The one before those three, no HC experience and he did pretty well. So maybe that’s not as a crucial requirement as some think.

Also, look at the coaches in the playoff. 3\4 no HC experience before being hired. Just saying. Pruitt isn’t an exciting hire, but he may well be the right one. If it is him, all we can do is back it and hope Fulmer knows what he is doing.
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Not questionable at all. the Pirate wins but not Championships
 
#46
#46
Weezer said:
Meh. If Pruitt is the hire, our AD and all the talking heads on campus have let us down once again. Other teams get exciting hires, hires that instill confidence in their fanbase. We get google coaches and head-scratchers that make no sense. At this point, I'm starting to think we might as well just start accepting we suck, because our leadership routinely fails to deliver us the kind of coach we want. Some of you will try to dress it up as more than it is. God bless you for it. My positive vibes have been used up over the last ten years, so I'm sorry, I just can't believe a Pruitt hire is a good thing. If I'm lucky, which I can tell you most of my luck is bad luck, Pruitt will prove me wrong, because no matter what, my blood will always run orange. I just don't have any faith to believe anymore. Sucks to think of the struggles most likely ahead, only to find ourselves right back here at this same point in a few years.
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You have company. It's frustrating to be told about a big, expensive, and explosive hire only to find out that they'd pegged Schiano from the start. Now we get Fulmer implying that some coaches might now be interested that wouldn't have been before. The assumption on our part was that he might be referring to big name coaches...head coaches. We, the fans, assumed. That's on us. Coordinators are coaches, too. Fulmer didn't lie or mislead. He just gave us something vague and we ran with it. Now we've spent what....nearly a month between Currie and Fulmer and sign Steele? Hell, we could have had an agreement with him in a matter of days, if not hours....much like how every other school with a vacancy did with their hires. Nah, not UT and not Fulmer. No, that's not how we roll in Knoxville.

Yeah, it's hard to continue giving a damn about this program given all that's transpired and not just in this season from hell. No, this garbage has been going on for years. Nothing ever changes with UT. Same old BS while extending a hand asking for more money.

If they do hire Steele, I will wait on the staff, but if I'm right and it goes as I expect, it's time to turn the page on this broken program. Enough is finally enough. No point is wasting more time and losing more stomach lining over this football program. Just gonna let it continue on pretending to give a damn, playing power games on the board, wasting money building crap that no one really cares about while we get shamed on the field. 4-8.....four lousy wins. None in the SEC. First time in school history. So go ahead Fulmer. Trot Steele out there and tell us how great he will be, and how he's exactly what this program needs. Tell us how exhaustive the search has been. Just waiting for the news. I know it's coming.
 
#47
#47
VolFreakJosh said:
Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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Isn't that true no matter what?
 
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