Just heard on the radio show "Full Ride"

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OffTackleVol said:
The top 13 winningest men's basketball programs of all time that none are currently ranked in the top 25. None. March Madness this year is going to be crazy; I just hope fans are allowed to attend.
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This made me interested so I looked up the entire list and to see Temple at number 5 on the list is insane to me
 
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Of the “elite” programs of today, only Gonzaga and Villanova are doing well.

Also, “all time winningest” isn’t that significant. Temple is top 5.
 
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Orange to the Bay said:
Surprising, but not insane, right? Philly is talent rich, & John Chaney (RIP) was the man.
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dovervolz said:
Up until recently temple was a really good team. John Chaney was a great coach and they always competed for championships.
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Yes surprising is much better word than "insane". I knew they were high and a great program, just not THAT high
 
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dovervolz said:
Up until recently temple was a really good team. John Chaney was a great coach and they always competed for championships.
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My guess is the downfall of temple correlates with the rise in AAU and travel ball. Once that became a “business” in itself, Chaney probably didn’t have a chance. He was old school and was a hell of a basketball teacher but somewhere along the way, a lot of kids stopped going to schools with the idea of being taught to play the game and started going to schools that had a swoosh or certain logo on their jer$ey and $hoe$.
JMO.
GBO!!
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
Wonder where we'd be if not for the Wade Houston, Kevin O'neil and Buzz Peteresen years
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Maybe a little higher because there was a chance that a guy like Rick Byrd could’ve won some games here. Nothing flashy but probably would’ve been more stable and consistent than those clowns.
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
My guess is the downfall of temple correlates with the rise in AAU and travel ball. Once that became a “business” in itself, Chaney probably didn’t have a chance. He was old school and was a hell of a basketball teacher but somewhere along the way, a lot of kids stopped going to schools with the idea of being taught to play the game and started going to schools that had a swoosh or certain logo on their jer$ey and $hoe$.
JMO.
GBO!!
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Never thought of it like this, but you’re absolutely right.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
My guess is the downfall of temple correlates with the rise in AAU and travel ball. Once that became a “business” in itself, Chaney probably didn’t have a chance. He was old school and was a hell of a basketball teacher but somewhere along the way, a lot of kids stopped going to schools with the idea of being taught to play the game and started going to schools that had a swoosh or certain logo on their jer$ey and $hoe$.
JMO.
GBO!!
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Not only that, but what once held Temple together as a program was the idea of regional representation. Philadelphia had the big 5 schools (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, and Saint Joseph's) and they recruited the city hard, and then the mid-Atlantic are, as well. Once television and the internet began to shrink the world and things and information became more accessible, kids began to branch out from their regional areas. AAU got kids more attention nationwide. The cost of travel and communication narrowed. Where schools like Temple had an advantage with local and regional recruiting, they now had to fight to keep those kids in the area and then branch out their own recruiting efforts to replace the ones who got away. Chaney, like you said, was old school and probably failed to adapt with the changing world around him in many areas.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not only that, but what once held Temple together as a program was the idea of regional representation. Philadelphia had the big 5 schools (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, and Saint Joseph's) and they recruited the city hard, and then the mid-Atlantic are, as well. Once television and the internet began to shrink the world and things and information became more accessible, kids began to branch out from their regional areas. AAU got kids more attention nationwide. The cost of travel and communication narrowed. Where schools like Temple had an advantage with local and regional recruiting, they now had to fight to keep those kids in the area and then branch out their own recruiting efforts to replace the ones who got away. Chaney, like you said, was old school and probably failed to adapt with the changing world around him in many areas.
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The Fresh Prince would have played at one of those schools for sure if he hadn't gotten in one little fight, his mom got scared, and moved with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not only that, but what once held Temple together as a program was the idea of regional representation. Philadelphia had the big 5 schools (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, and Saint Joseph's) and they recruited the city hard, and then the mid-Atlantic are, as well. Once television and the internet began to shrink the world and things and information became more accessible, kids began to branch out from their regional areas. AAU got kids more attention nationwide. The cost of travel and communication narrowed. Where schools like Temple had an advantage with local and regional recruiting, they now had to fight to keep those kids in the area and then branch out their own recruiting efforts to replace the ones who got away. Chaney, like you said, was old school and probably failed to adapt with the changing world around him in many areas.
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Man, your post makes me smile, thinking about watching college basketball as a kid. I used to love some old school Big east and schools like temple and Lasalle. I can remember watching games on tv with my dad and papaw and then heading over to Stokely to catch our Vols in action. As a kid, it felt like you could reach out and touch the goals from the balcony. The good ol’ days!
GBO!!
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not only that, but what once held Temple together as a program was the idea of regional representation. Philadelphia had the big 5 schools (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, and Saint Joseph's) and they recruited the city hard, and then the mid-Atlantic are, as well. Once television and the internet began to shrink the world and things and information became more accessible, kids began to branch out from their regional areas. AAU got kids more attention nationwide. The cost of travel and communication narrowed. Where schools like Temple had an advantage with local and regional recruiting, they now had to fight to keep those kids in the area and then branch out their own recruiting efforts to replace the ones who got away. Chaney, like you said, was old school and probably failed to adapt with the changing world around him in many areas.
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Imagine what a coach like Chaney could’ve accomplished at a school like Kentucky or Kansas?
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
My guess is the downfall of temple correlates with the rise in AAU and travel ball. Once that became a “business” in itself, Chaney probably didn’t have a chance. He was old school and was a hell of a basketball teacher but somewhere along the way, a lot of kids stopped going to schools with the idea of being taught to play the game and started going to schools that had a swoosh or certain logo on their jer$ey and $hoe$.
JMO.
GBO!!
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Like DePaul too
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
Man, your post makes me smile, thinking about watching college basketball as a kid. I used to love some old school Big east and schools like temple and Lasalle. I can remember watching games on tv with my dad and papaw and then heading over to Stokely to catch our Vols in action. As a kid, it felt like you could reach out and touch the goals from the balcony. The good ol’ days!
GBO!!
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I remember watching Mark Macon, Eddie Jones and they had a tough post player that was probably in the NBA as well. That is when my love for the college game was new. There was a mystique about the games that doesn't exist anymore. Before those guys went pro they were bigger than life in college.
 
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Bill Cosby used to play for Temple.

Once when playing Hofstra he got kicked in the...........”you’d better not touch certain areas of your body while your out there on the football field.”

So he grabbed his head.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I remember watching Mark Macon, Eddie Jones and they had a tough post player that was probably in the NBA as well. That is when my love for the college game was new. There was a mystique about the games that doesn't exist anymore. Before those guys went pro they were bigger than life in college.
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Perry, I think

Edit: yeah, Tim Perry, '84-'89, had to look it up, I haven't fried all those brain cells, yet
 
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