Just behind the Vols' Bench

[BeardedVol]

Yep, had DWA on the drag. Needs to quit panicking at the slightest pressure, and go through his progressions.

Post-snap decision making is not JG's strong suit, and that's always going to limit him as a QB.

 

[rockytop989]

It would be hard for Peyton to throw it with this O-line. New coaches want their players..Pruitt brought in Chryst, so obviously he seen that JG is the better quarterback or Keller would be starting. The fact that he is throwing as good as he is with him being knocked down every play is impressive enough. We won’t win like we should until we replace the big uglies, no matter the quarterback.

 

[Russdaddy2027]

Good to hear this perspective, lots of factors = the loss, fatigue, depth, 3rd and manageable backing up to 3rd and long because of false starts, inability to adjust to SC’s deep game. Good news is they are all fixable and CJP seems like the man to do it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So after being in Fitzgerald's S&C program for 10 months, 2/3 of the way through the season, the defense can't muster 21 minutes of game-time in October night temps without getting utterly gassed?

Not sure we can blame Butch and company for that problem at this point.

Did you watch the Georgia Florida game? Same thing happened to Florida’s D in the end.

 

[Volhoops]

It would be hard for Peyton to throw it with this O-line. New coaches want their players..Pruitt brought in Chryst, so obviously he seen that JG is the better quarterback or Keller would be starting. The fact that he is throwing as good as he is with him being knocked down every play is impressive enough. We won’t win like we should until we replace the big uglies, no matter the quarterback.

Disagree whole heartedly. Yes lines need to improve but with better QB play right now that should have been a win. They had to dumb down the play book to something JG could handle Saturday night. Simple quick throws is JG's limitation. We've seen it now for year and a half. Chryst allows a full play book. If Pruitt wasn't in a pissing contest with the OC you would probably see more Chryst and you would probably see more wins.

 

[tbones0711]

If Keller Chryst plays the entire game we win handily. There wasn’t one single play or one single throw that he could not have out performed JG at.

And I know the delusional JG nuts will be in soon claiming completion percentage and toughness and heart. I’ve heard it all guys. I love JG but if you can’t see by now that he’s hurting our chances of victory then you never will. So I’ll go ahead and say agree to disagree.

The young man has heart and everyone agrees with that but there has to be an answer. One is get him out of the pocket. Two is learn how to set-up a REAL SCREEN PASS. UT has not even tried and I personally don't think they installed a screen pass that utilizes 3 OLinemen breaking in front of the pass catcher. Maybe it's because it's game 9 now and we're still shifting linemen around but it makes defenses have to think before they blitz. JG is averaging 8.04 yds. per completion. Way down there compared to other QB's. My only wish is to see more of Chryst. Just give the guy a chance. Is this now a case if they do so and he shines that many fans are gonna find fault with this staff? Maybe now they not playing him for that reason. You can blame the line all you want but JG does leave a lot to be desired. Over throwing simple 8-10 yd. lateral passes 3-4 times sure is telling. I don't like our chances going forward with him as our QB. We've essentially cheated Chryst out of a valuable year. Saban gambled on Tua in the title game. He had no idea how Tua would perform in that game. Anyone saying he did is a damn liar. Pruitt would do well to utilize Chryst just to see. If it means having to watch JG sitting on the bench pouting so be it. A QB should be a natural leader. Yet to see that quality in JG.

 

[DonDiego]

I understand everything you guys are saying. But like CJP said, it is his fault. If my company struggles in sales, it is my fault even though I can't do everything for everybody. Now, he came into a poor performing company. Before I had my own, I worked for a Fortune 500 company and came into a responsibility where it was way under the goals of performance that were expected. Thirty year plus employees and a guy who had retired and coasted several years to get there. We struggled but made progress and eventually got it to where it needed to be after a few years. Got rid of a lot of employees (players) and hired some young new eager to show what they could do employees (recruits) and built things the right way with no shortcuts under the hand of a great operational VP (AD). We had a couple of tough years getting there and whose bonus was affected? The coach (me). However, I eventually got offered what I had been working almost a decade to get which was a promotion. I actually didn't take it and went to work for a smaller company but had to choice to live where I wanted and not have to be away from my wife and kids as much. Then went to start my own start up. Regardless, the failures along the way were still by ultimate responsibility to get corrected and obtain results. I do believe CJP feels the same way about this job. We fail and it is his fault regardless of the hand dealt. He knew it when he took it. Now, I hope the AD and powers above him as well as the rest of us fans will give him the same chance to turn it around that I was given. It takes wise and mature people to have patience. And yes, we have had plenty of it but it is not going to help to get impatient now. Take the little victories (Auburn) and the progress you see and enjoy it.

So, the moral of your story is the AD offers the coach a big raise after turning the program around through time, grit and hard work, and he rejects the raise and jumps ship for another job

 

[CINCYVOL]

Thankfully you noticed the hurry up which can really get you gassed quick on the DL when you can't substitute due to speed of play or because you just don't have the guys to make wholesale subs.[/QUOTE

Especially since they ran the hurry up on running plays. They took a little more time on the pass plays so the QB could look at the coverage.

 

[KeyVol14]

It’s the QB. The guy throwing for 5.6 yards a completion when you have two dynamic receivers out wide. They’ve shown their ability to win 50/50 balls but one deep shot won’t do it. At this point it’s a disservice to the fans and those receivers to continue to start JG. I think he threw two passes above 20 yards all game. But go ahead and praise checkdown Jesus for his completion percentage.

Again they played cover 2 all game to prevent the deep ball. Muschamp admitted to it as well...nice try though. The Defense lost this game for the last time

 

[volgrad500]

Sitting in section 19 behind the Vols' bench yesterday evening, we UT fans and some very nice SCjr fans watched last night's hard-fought game with an additional dimension than that of some of these dubious posters who're assigning blame for such a disappointing outcome. UT's excessive TOP would've been an asset if only our guys had been able to spell those OL men who, by the fourth quarter, were so spent they could barely even stand up. To a very similar degree, UT's entire defensive squad was totally gassed, as well.

We were giving up 6.4 yards a carry, the FIRST HALF.

 

[KeyVol14]

Disagree whole heartedly. Yes lines need to improve but with better QB play right now that should have been a win. They had to dumb down the play book to something JG could handle Saturday night. Simple quick throws is JG's limitation. We've seen it now for year and a half. Chryst allows a full play book. If Pruitt wasn't in a pissing contest with the OC you would probably see more Chryst and you would probably see more wins.

Holy sheeet...did you watch the game? The defense consistently couldn’t stop the run, the offensive line moved up and down the field all night but when it came to crunch time we had some drops but most noteworthy we had multiple false starts that stalled our momentum. I seriously can’t stand the complete bull crap criticism that’s directly focused solely on JG. Was there throws he missed sure but he’s def not the reason we lost the game.

 

[VFL1953]

Spare me the "you people" bullsh!t. I've never been a JG apologist. I think he lacks certain 'intangibles' you see in good/great QBs. That being said, I'm not going to blame him for last nights loss. It's NEVER one guys fault and he did more than enough to win that game if the defense just shows up in the second half. Either your dislike/hate for JG is severely biasing your opinion or you're just plain stupid. You figure it out. Peace.....

This may be too subtle a distinction. Please return focus on the adulation of a starting QB who had one solid quarter in mop up duty. Thanks.

 

[sameolvol]

Thanks for the insight. Out of curiosity, what kinds of things were each team's fans saying? Regardless sounds like you were fortunate to be near some respectful fans, so that's good stuff.

All around where I was sitting, folks from both schools were getting along quite well. It' was the best atmosphere I've experienced at Williams Bryce. The consensus was that these two teams were pretty much equal in talent, that both groups hadn't yet found their footing, either team could win, and we were all hoping for a good, competitive game...with no injuries. Going into the second half, the USCjr fans were pretty convinced all was lost for the garnet and black. We UT fans, though, were candidly fearing a USC come-back was in the mix. Surely they couldn't be messing up as much as they'd been the first half. Nonetheless, they kept playing ineptly, but our DBs appeared to be slowing down. Their RBs, who were getting tackled with pretty much ease earlier, started breaking tackles...more and more as the fourth quarter rolled along. UT's earlier decent pass rush began to just vaporize into nothing. USCjr began to steadily pick up the tempo as gassed defensive guys on our side began to look more and more disoriented. Had the game lasted another quarter, I'd say they would've beaten us by 20+ points. It's been a long time since I've witnessed such a worn out bunch. Kudos to them for never giving up. I didn't perceive any glaring coaching faux pas on CJP and staff. All those present seemed to believe the worst coaching decisions came out of Muschamp's group. Had the Vols been able to stick in players like Coach Pruitt's been recruiting since day one...even if just a couple more on the O and D lines plus a couple of cornerbacks, this game would've belonged to UT, and by a big margin. Next year's game won't end this way.

 

[Ten_Titans]

The defense played well enough for us to win if we had a QB that could complete more than a screen pass. The only reason it was close is because we have one of the best WR corps in the conference. Not because of QB play.

He's completed plenty of passes down the field. Literally two games ago everyone on this board was on his nuts about his deep ball accuracy.

We torched them with all those screens. They didn't even try to stop them until the end of the game.

If we won 24 - 14 you all would be praising the offense about how effective they were.

The defense lost us the game. The offense was consistently good outside of two drives. The defense was consistently bad outside of two drives.

 

[lexkyvol]

The defense played well enough for us to win if we had a QB that could complete more than a screen pass. The only reason it was close is because we have one of the best WR corps in the conference. Not because of QB play.

you either cant read or totally said f the post and 1st comment. unbelievable

 

[lexkyvol]

Disagree whole heartedly. Yes lines need to improve but with better QB play right now that should have been a win. They had to dumb down the play book to something JG could handle Saturday night. Simple quick throws is JG's limitation. We've seen it now for year and a half. Chryst allows a full play book. If Pruitt wasn't in a pissing contest with the OC you would probably see more Chryst and you would probably see more wins.

dumb down the playbook or do what was working? ur football iq is lacking

 

[Cartervol]

Like i said. There is something about Chryst they don't like. Maybe it's the fact he won't be here next year and it's kind of a sacrifice this year for next deal. I'm ok with it. I see why they stick with JG. He would have just about had to play perfect to win us that game last week. It was like you where almost excepting it to end it was so efficient. I knew it would. They squeezed what we were doing after halftime., they had saw it enough. Muschump is pretty good at finding your weakness, adjusting too it.. We haven't had the pieces to checkmate him over the last couple years. 2016 was a indictment on Jones. Should of been the start of the end for him, was in a way. Shame Fulmer wasn't here to end the misery for the fans. Could of saved us another year of Botch.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

The defense played well enough for us to win if we had a QB that could complete more than a screen pass. The only reason it was close is because we have one of the best WR corps in the conference. Not because of QB play.

“Defense played well enough for us to win”

*Continues to give up easy points on the last two drives*

You can’t make this up.

 

[Volhoops]

Defense isn't in charge of scoring the football. Offense scored NO TOUCHDOWNS in the second half. Do not blame the lose on just the defense. Nothing has changed about the defense. It is as bad as when the year started. You have more talent and experience on the offensive side minus the QB play. You must win by out scoring the other team. If it takes 48-42 points a game then that is what you must play for. There's no sitting on a lead for this team and expecting to win.

 

[OnlyGodForgives]

Just behind any bench sounds like a generally unpleasant place to be, unless it's the one for models right next to the Victoria's Secret runway or some such.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

The defense played well enough for us to win if we had a QB that could complete more than a screen pass. The only reason it was close is because we have one of the best WR corps in the conference. Not because of QB play.

You don't know much about football. When you put 24 points on the board against USCe, you should win.

 

[tbones0711]

This may be too subtle a distinction. Please return focus on the adulation of a starting QB who had one solid quarter in mop up duty. Thanks.

That,my friend, is not fair. Even when they have allowed Chryst to play prior to the Bama game they limited him mostly to handing the ball off. The substitution at Bama wasn't expected and they turned him loose. It's too late in the season to think of what perhaps "could have been." JG has bad field vision period and if he had twice the time he has now he'd still do the same damn thing. You'll hopefully see against Charlotte.

 

[chattaboogie]

You don't know much about football. When you put 24 points on the board against USCe, you should win.

Seven of that 24 came from the defense making a great play and getting a turnover. How many false starts did the offense have? How many wildly inaccurate throws? I don’t claim to know all that much about football but I sure as sh!t know more than you.

 

[Stevebriggs]

You people crack me up. No matter how many times JG stands still like a freakin monument waiting for a strip sack on a key down you’re still gonna cling to his otherworldly screen pass ability.

I guarantee KC wouldn’t eat sacks and fumble the ball like JG.

But it doesn’t matter “cause he’s tough as nails by god!”
Did I get it right?

If kc is Superman like you say , why isn’t he the starter at Stanford ?

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

I got the feeling that JG wasn't a 100% in that game. I admire his guts, but, bruised ribs can make it hard to breathe, much less throw a football accurately. And he didn't have his normal accuracy. I would have preferred that KC come in. At least for a quarter.