Juneteenth

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Sandman 423 said:
What am I missing? We should all be proud to celebrate the beginning of our country moving away from slavery.
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On what day were all the Japanese Americans released from the internment camps after WW2? Shouldn't we be celebrating that as well? In all actuality, that was worse, because Americans grabbed them and threw them (other Americans) into prison. Africans were sold by other Africans.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Pimp mode!!
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n_huffhines said:
My family life is great, except for my sister who got laid off because of the trade war with China and my brother-in-law who is a legal immigrant but is living in fear that he can get picked up at any time.
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Does your BIL vote democrat? If he does, he needs to know that he is partly responsible for all of this, at which point all sympathy ends.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
They teach slavery in 2nd grade? All I remember was playing Oregon trail on a green screen Macintosh and learning how to add apples.
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We must have gone to the same school. Also got in my first school bus fistfight.
Wasn't my first fight at school, nor my last on a school bus. 2nd grade was fun though. Welcome to ghetto azz public schools.


C-south said:
Just like the black “national anthem”.
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Yeah, my kids never had to deal with this bullcrap. Only cost my blue collar family about $100k per kid to get a good education free from drugs/alcohol/government nonsense. Worth every penny and then some.
They were spared the insanity that is Common Core, CRT, woke anti-white and gay/trans nonsense. No "sex ed" classes. No indoctrination in the Leftist BS that swept this nation during the 8 years of Obama and 4 of "Biden" especially...as well as what has steadily crept into the public school curriculum over the years.

If at all a public school system should exist and be mandated by government overreach, it should be with vouchers tied to govt finances for each individual child and parents should decide which school their kids attend. Then competition among schools could lead to actual competence at least in some cases.The public school system is an abject failure by ANY metric, children are dumber, fatter, and more indoctrinated than they have ever been and it gets WORSE every year...not better. Standardized test scores get LOWER every generation...and that is with now having the 10 point grade scale for A-F which is a damn joke AND dumbed down SATs and curriculums vs when I was in public school 30 years ago. Only the government can fail this horribly and still exist. Any private school moving BACKWARDS in every possible metric would have been out of business decades ago. As usual, the government is the most expensive, least effective means of educating kids just as they are for every other task they are given. I have no idea why Americans continue to tolerate this failure to educate their kids at LEAST as well as they were themselves at a bare minimum. The goal is to raise children that are better prepared for life than ourselves. Why do we tolerate less?
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Yeah. We got a copy of the “syllabus “ for it and everything. I was pretty surprised but I thought it was well taught.
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I find that interesting. If it looked well taught than good. Full disclosure I was in 2nd grade in a plains state so we only talked about Custer.
 
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EasternVol said:
Something to celebrate and remind us of the need for equality is good, but chosing Juneteenth as the holiday wasn't well thought out. Juneteenth was a Texas only thing and all chattel slaves weren't free until well after then.
Those inspirational words had a very long wait to even begin to come to fruition since we did such a shite job as a country of managing race relations for generations. It's obviously better now but more progress is needed.
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Juneteenth as a national holiday was another hasty activity by the Biden Administration to look Woke during the year of allowed devastation around the US during 2020 and post Summer of Love by far left progressive democrats. I don't think Biden was ever running the country but he had rehearsed lines and was a mouth piece for state actors.

I believe Juneteenth was much more sacred and grassroots as a cultural holiday. It became stained by political activism. It is what the left continues to do with the Civil Rights movement as they now try to tie gay and trans rights to it. Look at any recent article about the loss of corporate funding for the Juneteenth celebrations and almost every one of them will also discuss Gay Pride month. Juneteenth becoming a national holiday was important to leftist activists to try to link the two forever.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Juneteenth as a national holiday was another hasty activity by the Biden Administration to look Woke during the year of allowed devastation around the US during 2020 and post Summer of Love by far left progressive democrats. I don't think Biden was ever running the country but he had rehearsed lines and was a mouth piece for state actors.

I believe Juneteenth was much more sacred and grassroots as a cultural holiday. It became stained by political activism. It is what the left continues to do with the Civil Rights movement as they now try to tie gay and trans rights to it. Look at any recent article about the loss of corporate funding for the Juneteenth celebrations and almost every one of them will also discuss Gay Pride month. Juneteenth becoming a national holiday was important to leftist activists to try to link the two forever.
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I am alright with celebrating it but if you really want to focus a holiday on ending slavery, they should chose the date that the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified.
 
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just bob said:
You would really drop established holidays while seeing the need for Juneteenth? It wasn't even a thing before the Patron St of Fentanyl killed himself. That's weird.

This is all in response to the first sentence of your post #913 in this thread by the way..
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drop it from federal purview? yes.

drop it from personal observance, nope.

its not a matter of "trading" in my books. Its more a question of what should be observed by the government. it becomes a matter of essentially what are your Top 10 most important days. everyone is going to have their own order, and their own criteria for setting who makes the list. yeah 99% agree on the top 2/3 even if they disagree with the exact order. after that its a matter of preference. and I think our government lost site on what is their scope.

every holiday we have ever added had their "I can't breathe" moment. The 4th didn't happen until AFTER the civil war in order to try and bring both sides together as a moment of healing. to celebrate something both sides could agree with. In your world the 4th wasn't a big either.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
On what day were all the Japanese Americans released from the internment camps after WW2? Shouldn't we be celebrating that as well? In all actuality, that was worse, because Americans grabbed them and threw them (other Americans) into prison. Africans were sold by other Africans.
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its a pretty small percentage, I think much less than 25%, of all slaves in the US, that came on a boat. most of them were born here in slavery, and died here in slavery.

your argument would hold up much better in the Caribbean.
 
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LouderVol said:
drop it from federal purview? yes.

drop it from personal observance, nope.

its not a matter of "trading" in my books. Its more a question of what should be observed by the government. it becomes a matter of essentially what are your Top 10 most important days. everyone is going to have their own order, and their own criteria for setting who makes the list. yeah 99% agree on the top 2/3 even if they disagree with the exact order. after that its a matter of preference. and I think our government lost site on what is their scope.

every holiday we have ever added had their "I can't breathe" moment. The 4th didn't happen until AFTER the civil war in order to try and bring both sides together as a moment of healing. to celebrate something both sides could agree with. In your world the 4th wasn't a big either.
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You have a very interesting take on national holidays. You've spent time thinking about this. Why limit federal holidays at 10 though?
 
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