Judge Heagarty's Ruling

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I think not getting a portal QB and JA being shut down despite Chambliss getting the nod. Different states different rules & laws, we got shut down last year in baseball on shortstop A. Osuna, while Diego got a pass in the state of Nashville on basically same ruling:confused:. Judges hate us LOL..
I think there's a chance the team mirrors the 2013 team in regard to QB. With George playing the Worley role as the initial starter. Then mid season because of nagging injuries and losses Fazion takes over and plays the Dobbs role, who did ok for a true Freshman. Dobbs had 2 TD passes & ran well & 6 picks and team finished 5 & 7. I see the team with a bottom 4 wins and ceiling of 8 wins.
It's hard to win in the SEC with in-experience leader, strongest conference top to bottom in USA, besides OOC every SEC game is a possible loss.
 
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10seV4L said:
And the truth shall reveal itself.
This poster is a "right-fighter".
@JMSqb11 wants the ruling situation to deteriorate, so they can post to all, 'i told you so", regarding their criticism of CJH's QB playtime management.
Done.
Be gone evil spirit!
This room is clear.
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You seem to have a crush on me because your rage posting because I pointed out the fallacy that some made about my stance on Heupel.

Bless your heart.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
His age has nothing to do with it. Chris Weinke, Quincy Carter, Brandon Wheeden, Kelly Washington, and many others have played the game at 25+ years of age.
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How may of them were college for 7 years? You can’t make the age a relevant factor for those guys because Weeden took 5 years to play 4 seasons. I believe Quincy took 4 years to play 3 seasons.

So while older than normal players, they still were professional college athletes hanging around for 5-6 years.

Joey just like Chambliss should be done. They’ve been around college ball for almost 6 years now. Good riddance.
 
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I can't seem to post this enough. Joey A ALREADY benefited from the Pavia decision by playing last year. He refers to himself as very blessed by the NCAA waiver last year.

The Pavia decision is what let Joey play at UT.

www.espn.com

Joey Aguilar transferring to UCLA after 2 years at App State

Former Appalachian State quarterback Joey Aguilar announced his commitment to UCLA on Saturday night.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
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For those people saying Joey isn't what College football is about come on. That is Past thinking 🤔! Based on the current chaos in the NCAA it is exactly what today's College football 🏈 product is. From my novice understanding it's simply should the Juco years count against him or not? If this is the case other cases have been allowed to play so should Joey once again different time. Didn't the judge say he doesn’t see any hard data on how this affects Joey? Like at least 2-4 million dollars next year!

Now if the NCAA come in and said starting next year you simply have 5 to play 4 0 exceptions 0. I'd be cool with that because everyone would be on the same playing level.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Some of you people are so two faced. You can’t stand the Alabama and Mississippi judges because they were bought and are biased.
now when the Tennessee judge does what you believe the Alabama and Mississippi judges should have done, you can’t stand him either.
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At least we can stand on principle while others trophy cases fill up.
 
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Fatdad32 said:
For those people saying Joey isn't what College football is about come on. That is Past thinking 🤔! Based on the current chaos in the NCAA it is exactly what today's College football 🏈 product is. From my novice understanding it's simply should the Juco years count against him or not? If this is the case other cases have been allowed to play so should Joey once again different time. Didn't the judge say he doesn’t see any hard data on how this affects Joey? Like at least 2-4 million dollars next year!

Now if the NCAA come in and said starting next year you simply have 5 to play 4 0 exceptions 0. I'd be cool with that because everyone would be on the same playing level.
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The NCAA has the rule: 5 to play 4 with very limited exceptions.

The Pavia exception: forced by the court.
The Chambliss exception: forced by the court.

Blame the NCAA? After the Pavia decision, they made an "okay, it's unfair to let just Pavia play but we have to do what the court says, so this is a one time waiver for ALL JUCO players."

That's what Joey A played under last year and it was fairly applied to lots of JUCO players and not just Pavia. Fair is fair.

Blame the court? It's the foundation of America to live by the decisions, good and bad, of the court. Take them back to court is what Joey A did this year and he lost. Fair is fair. He had his day in court and lost.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
That's what Joey A played under last year and it was fairly applied to lots of JUCO players and not just Pavia. Fair is fair.

Blame the court? It's the foundation of America to live by the decisions, good and bad, of the court. Take them back to court is what Joey A did this year and he lost. Fair is fair. He had his day in court and lost.
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“Fair” is where you go to eat cotton candy and step in pony poo.

This judge certainly isn’t “the foundation of America”.
 
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KHVol said:
“Fair” is where you go to eat cotton candy and step in pony poo.

This judge certainly isn’t “the foundation of America”.
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Glad to see we know who the looter is in the crowd.

"It was on fire and people were running by me with TVs, so of course I went in to get one. Why not?"

Stellar American, aren't you?
 
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10seV4L said:
To judge the judge, he seems mighty high on himself and how his ruling will set the precedent for every similar case to follow. Imo, his ruling seems to imply that he thinks it is resetting the bar, so to speak, and defending against an avalanche of future injunctions.
With this sham of a ruling, he achieved none of that; other than to make himself feel gratified and having taken the high road in the process.
As has been stated, all Judge H did was hold The U of T to a tighter, higher standard than the rest of the sport, unnecessarily.
If JUCO years don't count towards D1 participation, they don't count, period, full stop.
Joey's ruling was not fair based on the precedent and rulings set before it. The judge made a "poster-child" of our QB so as to assert himself and his judgement as the new paradigm.
An arrogant fool of a judge, by all observations,
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Judge making laws rather than interpreting them.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'm crying that you aren't crying more about the people crying.

And for the record, I was calling for George to play/get significant reps / snaps after the Oklahoma game. Everyone is now cowering that we are about to go 7-5, but this entire situation could have somewhat been prepared for or avoided without having to even involve Joey's court case.

We could have been successful in the portal, we weren't. No one's fault because Heupel clearly loaded up the Brinks truck.

But in the scenario where we roll into 2026 with Gmac as starter, him not getting a lot of snaps against NM State and Florida second half was criminal. I think Heupel's make or break season is 2027 just because of how much money we have committed to Knowles and the defensive staff. Heupel can survive 7-5 and even 6-6 as long as Gmac shows flashes.

But the one thing he won't have the luxury of is blaming losses or QB play on having inexperience at the position. He purposely chose to ensure that happened.
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Oklahoma was before Vandy.
 
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natemantooth said:
Meanwhile Alabama gets their guy who played in the G League, Ole Miss gets Chambliss back. Our state needs to be pulling in the same direction.
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I believe the Bama bball player has now been ruled ineligible. He should have never been eligible in the first place, so the process ultimately got it right. Chambliss was a different argument than JA’s entirely so the two situations are not the same.
 
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My suggestion that the NCAA change its rules to allow participation in athletics to enrolled full-time students in good academic standing seems even more apropos. If student athletes pursue a doctorate straight through, they could participate up to eight seasons. Why not?

A couple of factors, how many student athletes would stay enrolled to pursue a doctorate, and how many programs would want a student athlete to continue participating for up to eight seasons?

Presently, with four years of eligibility and a redshirt year, student athletes continuously enrolled year round are competing bachelor degrees and progressing into or completing master degrees. If the NCAA wants to cling to the present eligibility rules and exceptions, then they ought to apply this to enrollment in member institutions and not arbitrarily count participation in non-NCAA programs like junior colleges.

IMHO, failure to modify eligibility rules and/or their application only hastens the NCAA’s dissolution. Chaos isn’t preferable by any imagining. Time for member institutions to apply pressure for change as a united front.
 
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Behr said:
Im not agreeing with you but even if youre right, so what? Sometimes people say this like its a bad thing.

And as far as "crying" about it, I see it no different than you "crying" about letting George play since before the Vandy game.

Now somebody please tell me to stfu crying about crying. Lol.
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STFU
 
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