Juaun Jennings on Vandy....

[berryvol]

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[P.O.T.S. VOL]

It's just too easy to make fun of them. It's almost embarrassing! Almost!

 

[butchna]

Wen? :unsure: Sure Vandy fans won't jump all over that. inch:

 

[orangefreak21]

Tell em to jump all over that scoreboard. They're Vandy, they can do math right?

 

[Christian Lowe]

I had an argument with a Vandy fan that reminds me of this.

Vandy guy: We're more educated and make a hell of a lot more money than UT grads

Me: That money obviously isn't coming from players getting drafted, though, is it..

 

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I had an argument with a Vandy fan that reminds me of this.

Vandy guy: We're more educated and make a hell of a lot more money than UT grads

Me: That money obviously isn't coming from players getting drafted, though, is it..

In the grand scheme of things, he wins that argument.

 

[etcolton]

I wish we had an actual in state rival. Vandy is not even fun

 

[utvolpj]

I had an argument with a Vandy fan that reminds me of this.

Vandy guy: We're more educated and make a hell of a lot more money than UT grads

Me: That money obviously isn't coming from players getting drafted, though, is it..

Obviously that person is not out of school yet or they might understand how that really works

 

[Wylo]

"Wen" "yur"



Everybody loses with that.


Smh

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

In the grand scheme of things, he wins that argument.

We also graduate about 4 times as many students every year, so that average is going to be majorly skewed.

 

[daj2576]

In the grand scheme of things, he wins that argument.

I'd like to see a direct comparison by department and degree (How many ag majors does Vandy have?). Then adjust that for cost. I've read some studies that showed that the ROI is basically the same across degree fields, for all major schools, with the only difference really being those that graduate in the top 1%. Graduating in the top of your class, degree field, and school is more valuable than simply going to a top tier school.

 

[ButchPlz]

Obviously that person is not out of school yet or they might understand how that really works

Yeah, a Vandy undergrad degree, despite what lots of people want to believe, isn't much more impressive than an undergrad degree from anywhere else. The undergrad degree nowadays is just a piece of paper one has to have to get in the door, and UT students in particular have just as many, if not more, opportunities to get their foot in the door with the right network.

 

[volbrawler]

In the grand scheme of things, he wins that argument.

I guess if we rooted for schools academics, then sure. Last I checked, no fans are lining up in classrooms to watch kids take mid-terms. There's no student sections in the library to watch kids study. Vandy fans do what immature people do when they have no argument, resort to personal attacks.

 

[volbrawler]

Also, Vandy doesn't even offer certain undergrad majors or grad school programs. So, as a kinesiology graduate, I'll be more successful than any kinesiology grad from Vandy, because they have none 😉

 

[ButchPlz]

Yeah, a Vandy undergrad degree, despite what lots of people want to believe, isn't much more impressive than an undergrad degree from anywhere else. The undergrad degree nowadays is just a piece of paper one has to have to get in the door, and UT students in particular have just as many, if not more, opportunities to get their foot in the door with the right network.

EXAMPLE:
I have worked alongside a Vandy graduate at a fairly well-known entrepreneur hub in Nashville. The Vandy graduate might perhaps be the laziest and least functional, all-talk blowhard I've ever worked with. Think typical millennial type. At least two efforts we've run with him have failed. His Vandy degree provided him with nothing but an inflated ego and lack of ability to execute.

Meanwhile, my team, which consists of two Tennessee graduates, continues to pull in multi-million dollar contracts and is an industry leader on certain analytical practices.

 

[Vol737]

EXAMPLE:
I have worked alongside a Vandy graduate at a fairly well-known entrepreneur hub in Nashville. The Vandy graduate might perhaps be the laziest and least functional, all-talk blowhard I've ever worked with. Think typical millennial type. At least two efforts we've run with him have failed. His Vandy degree provided him with nothing but an inflated ego and lack of ability to execute.

Meanwhile, my team, which consists of two Tennessee graduates, continues to pull in multi-million dollar contracts and is an industry leader on certain analytical practices.

My dad used to always say "give me a B student from a State school that is highly motivated and I'll whip an Ivy League crowd every day of the week and twice on Sunday's".

 

[TennesseeRhett]

In the grand scheme of things, he wins that argument.

What is he paying for his tuition? What kind of debt is he in coming out of college? I'd say the UT kids are starting out on a better foot right out of the gate.

UT is a big state school. You can do as well or as poorly as you want, and make as much or as little of your time there as you choose. Nobody will hold your hand like they will at an overpriced private school, but there is no reason you cannot be very successful with a UT degree.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Yeah, a Vandy undergrad degree, despite what lots of people want to believe, isn't much more impressive than an undergrad degree from anywhere else. The undergrad degree nowadays is just a piece of paper one has to have to get in the door, and UT students in particular have just as many, if not more, opportunities to get their foot in the door with the right network.

In my experience, the name of the institution at the top of the diploma is key at only one point of the hiring process: deciding who to interview.

You get 100 applications for a job opening, and have to whittle it down to about 10 or so to invite for an interview. Seeing a name like "Harvard" or "Princeton" or "Duke" or "Vandy" in the c.v./bio piques a little interest and may help get an applicant into the shorter stack. But it's never just that alone, it's ALL the stuff in the application. So minor advantage.

Unless of course, the folks doing the hiring are fellow alums...then there might be some outright preference. But that cuts both ways.

What is he paying for his tuition? What kind of debt is he in coming out of college? I'd say the UT kids are starting out on a better foot right out of the gate.

UT is a big state school. You can do as well or as poorly as you want, and make as much or as little of your time there as you choose. Nobody will hold your hand like they will at an overpriced private school, but there is no reason you cannot be very successful with a UT degree.

Little known fact: Vandy is one of a handful of private institutions who are ROLLING in endowments, and must keep them in balance to meet some federal guidelines. So they underwrite a SIGNIFICANT portion of undergrad student's costs of attendance based on the family's financial standing. Up to 100%.

So depending on the family involved, it might be a LOT less expensive than you're thinking to go to Vandy. Unless you're rich, then they'll charge you full price, of course, hehe.

But I agree with you on this: doesn't matter where you go to school, if you're bright and a hard worker, you've got a leg up on anyone who isn't as hard-charging, no matter what their diploma says. Saw that all the time in the military--some folks think West Pointers have the advantage over ROTC or OCS officers, but they don't. It's the bright one who hustles who is going to get the promotions and key assignments, no matter where s/he came from. Every time.

 

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What is he paying for his tuition? What kind of debt is he in coming out of college? I'd say the UT kids are starting out on a better foot right out of the gate.

UT is a big state school. You can do as well or as poorly as you want, and make as much or as little of your time there as you choose. Nobody will hold your hand like they will at an overpriced private school, but there is no reason you cannot be very successful with a UT degree.

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the average income of a Vandy grad 10 years post graduation exceeds that of a UT grad by 15k

 

[KBVol]

I had an argument with a Vandy fan that reminds me of this.

Vandy guy: We're more educated and make a hell of a lot more money than UT grads

Me: That money obviously isn't coming from players getting drafted, though, is it..

I know a couple of recent Vandy grads....one is teaching middle school in south Williamson County. The other is Vandy law school graduate who just took an entry level sales position with a well-known computer company. Not saying that vandie isn't an excellent school with a lot of value attached to that particular diploma. But it's a bit of a myth that all vandie grads get their degree and then go right into private practice or into a CEO position pulling down high six figures. I know all vandie fans like to tell UT grads about how they'll be our boss some day.....but I actually work with 2 former Vandie athletes (both really good guys btw)and I can assure you that neither those 2, nor the 2 guys I mentioned earlier, will ever be my boss.

 

[Aesius]

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the average income of a Vandy grad 10 years post graduation exceeds that of a UT grad by 15k

And how many of those Vandy kids are entering a job market that's rigged in their favor due to having rich, well-connected parents?

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Wen? :unsure: Sure Vandy fans won't jump all over that. inch:

He said basically..............

 

[1972 Grad]

I have a degree from U.T. Vanderbilt is a better university. U.T. has a better football team. Vanderbilt has a better baseball team. Basketball about even.

 

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And how many of those Vandy kids are entering a job market that's rigged in their favor due to having rich, well-connected parents?

Probably a lot actually because most of those kid's parents became rich and well connected by attending schools like Vanderbilt themselves. But go ahead with your victimhood mentality if it's working for you.