Josh Smith Calls Out the Quitters

[majorvol]

Quitters going quit,quit,quit
Haters going to hate,hate,hate
I'm just going to enjoy another top five class
And shake it off....
Been listening to my 9 yr olds Cds to long

 

[madbamahater]

Really? List is shorter of who didn't. Ahh, just kidding.

Rumored that Wharton, Jenkins, King and Sawyers all want out. That's after Miller, Payne, Scott and Helm already left.

All of which were or would have been buried on depth chart.

Why are people so damn sad?

 

[madbamahater]

Check an NFL roster. All of them have players who were backups in college.

Stop. Just stop. You are more than reaching...

 

[Rifleman]

That may very well be part of the problem. During the recruiting process, ALOT of things are promised. Of course once the LOI's are in, all bets are off. Kids don't always appreciate the cutthroat ideas once on campus and are the next one on the chopping block.

Wait until they have two kids, car payments, a mortgage, and have to compete in the open market to make a less-than-decent wage ( which for their generation means competing for jobs that can often be sent abroad ).

I'm sorry if the world is cutthroat, but it is.

Sheltering kids from that so they can ride the bench for 5 years at Tennessee won't help them learn how the world works and will end up getting the entire staff unemployed.

 

[Guyute]

"If I commit, I'm committed".

Tell that to Marques Ford. He THOUGHT he was committed.

If it's ok for the coaches to be ruthless, don't bash a kid for looking out for himself.

Jmo

Marques Ford didn't find a spot on the team, Leb. I didn't like how his recruitment went down but he wasn't ON the team. Those who left were.

Smith is calling out teammates. Not coaches or recruits. If you have played team sports you know what that means. These guys suffer together for a common goal. I understand wanting more playing time but a freshman typically has to work their way up the depth chart and will contribute to the level of competition and camaraderie while doing so. Those who don't or won't may be seen as self-centered by the team.

Smith knows this. The rewards that come from being on a team are more than playing time or seeing yourself on the highlight reel.

Ford want lucky enough to make the team. I'm guessing he gladly would have traded spots with Hendrix so that he could be part of the family.

 

[finsmania19]

As much as I enjoyed watching Josh Smith's success this year, he needs a slice of humble pie. Start dropping those wide open passes again, he will find himself buried in the depth chart. I just don't like his tweet, because VN had pitch forks and torches every time he dropped a TD. Fire away!!!

 

[Dave1967]

+100

 

[Brave Volunteer]

As opposed to working harder and actually earning the playing time.

You can't assume it always boils down to work ethic. Sometimes it just comes down to not being good enough to compete at this level. No matter how hard a kid works, if they're simply being recruited over with a more talented player, 9 times out of 10 the more talented player is going to start. I can't blame a kid for wanting to go somewhere else to get more playing time.

 

[Slowrunnertn]

It is interesting that a lot of people are bashing these kids call them quitters and many other negative comments when some of these kids may be are being asked to leave by the coaching staff for whatever reason. i.e.... They weren't as good as the coaches thought they were when they were recruiting them.

Lets remember, these are 18-21 year old young men that are learning life's lessons and very few on this board have any clue to what is really going on with them and the coaches.

 

[wtorange]

As much as I enjoyed watching Josh Smith's success this year, he needs a slice of humble pie. Start dropping those wide open passes again, he will find himself buried in the depth chart. I just don't like his tweet, because VN had pitch forks and torches every time he dropped a TD. Fire away!!!

I think the point is that Josh has endured the slings and arrows and has kept grinding.

 

[finsmania19]

I think the point is that Josh has endured the slings and arrows and has kept grinding.

I agree with you, and hope that he has a wonderful career at UT. OP says he is taking a shot at "the quitters" on twitter(for the world to see). I just want him to stay classy, and remember his abysmal freshman year.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

So if I had just worked harder I would have started over Peyton? All this time I thought being 5 ft 08 and 150 lbs limited the likelihood of me playin D1 college football. It was just hard work I was missing.

If that's truly the case, the coach that recruited you was a dumbass.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

You can't assume it always boils down to work ethic. Sometimes it just comes down to not being good enough to compete at this level. No matter how hard a kid works, if they're simply being recruited over with a more talented player, 9 times out of 10 the more talented player is going to start. I can't blame a kid for wanting to go somewhere else to get more playing time.

I see your point.
So, does the fault lie in the evaluation process?

 

[KBVol]

:yes:

I believe this is the first time I've seen this posted.

A player can work his butt off, only to realize that some people are going to have a natural edge, whether physique, vision, that intuitive knowledge of what's about to happen, or whatever.

Can some stick it out and win time anyway? Sure. And they wind up on 30 for 30 or something. Most will wind up always being in the shadow. If they want to try somewhere else, where can be the big dog.

smh at how how all of us laptop warriors slam them on laziness, being thin-skinned, entitled, and all the rest.

IMHO, Vic is plenty talented to play in the SEC. Has elite speed and quickness, showed in limited time he has good hands, plenty of observers said throughout fall camp and the season that he was standing out at times. If he doesn't make it/stick at UT it'll be because of his attitude and mindset.

 

[Morpheus]

As much as I enjoyed watching Josh Smith's success this year, he needs a slice of humble pie. Start dropping those wide open passes again, he will find himself buried in the depth chart. I just don't like his tweet, because VN had pitch forks and torches every time he dropped a TD. Fire away!!!

Has anyone confirmed those tweets were actually from our Josh Smith?

I think I saw similar things tweeted by Vandy recruit Josh Smith, LB from Nashville couple days ago.

Edit> Nevermind just saw it.

 

[photovol]

Are players that are supposedly planning on leaving really quitters or do they just want to play so bad that transferring is probably the only way to go?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Are players that are supposedly planning on leaving really quitters or do they just want to play so bad that transferring is probably the only way to go?

You have to understand it's not about what is best for the kid. All these guys are supposed to sit and wait and hope they see playing time in their first 2-3 years. If they leave to seek playing time, they are quitters. Now if they sit and wait their turn and after 2-3 years they are not starting, then these same fans who would call them a quitter for leaving will be calling for Butch to drop them or push them out so UT can over sign another class.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I see your point.
So, does the fault lie in the evaluation process?

That may be part of it. Another part might be they were simply the best we could get at that time. A prime example of this would be Corey Vereen. When he was a freshmen we all thought of him as a stud. That was until Derek Barnett stepped on campus. Then suddenly you hardly heard Vereen's name mentioned. Did his work ethic suddenly go down the crapper? Probably not. He simply lost his starting role to a better player.

 

[Evet Vols]

I think if Vic stays he will have a chance to contribute after Pig leaves. If Vic doesn't want to work for it then we do not want him. Players like Hendrix and Helm had a chance to play but were just scared the other players were just better them and left. I'm sure Vic is worried his 4 years will pass him by without playing.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I think if Vic stays he will have a chance to contribute after Pig leaves. If Vic doesn't want to work for it then we do not want him. Players like Hendrix and Helm had a chance to play but were just scared the other players were just better them and left. I'm sure Vic is worried his 4 years will pass him by without playing.

While playing time could have played into their decisions, they could have just been unhappy for a lot of various reasons.

 

[allvol9]

So happy Josh got a medical redshirt. He bleeds orange......gotta love that!

 

[jbr82]

1st team
Wr. 8 North. Jr
Wr. 9 Pearson. Sr
Slot. 2 Pig. Sr

2nd team
Wr. 18 Croom. Jr
Wr. 3 Malone. So
Slot. 4 Vic. So

3rd team
Wr. 5 Jenkins. RS So
Wr. 25 Smith. RS So
Slot. 81 Johnson. Sr

If they all stay and are healthy should be good competition fighting for 2nd team

 

[butchna]

I see your point.
So, does the fault lie in the evaluation process?

You can only evaluate so far when they're in high school...you need to see most on the field playing against like athletes to get a proper gauge. Nathan Peterman and Tyrone Swoopes were pretty kick azz in high school iirc.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

1st team
Wr. 8 North. Jr
Wr. 9 Pearson. Sr
Slot. 2 Pig. Sr

2nd team
Wr. 18 Croom. Jr
Wr. 3 Malone. So
Slot. 4 Vic. So

3rd team
Wr. 5 Jenkins. RS So
Wr. 25 Smith. RS So
Slot. 81 Johnson. Sr

If they all stay and are healthy should be good competition fighting for 2nd team

Plus you have to add Williams, Bruce, and Perry coming in this class.

 

[jbr82]

Plus you have to add Williams, Bruce, and Perry coming in this class.

Yea figured williams still had some healing to do.
Bruce and Perry have speed but so did Vic coming in.
I hope Vic doesn't run from competition and remembers that his blood is orange