Josh Malone Got Bad Advice

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Just when I thought the Bears couldn't suck any harder, they hired Azzanni. Then they drafted as their first pick a project, starting to look like a 4-12 season
 
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WiseOlVol said:
I wanted better for the kid.
With 1 more year, imho, he'd have earned twice as much and more.
Anybody care to disagree?
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Sure.

New qb.
New oc.
Butch Jones offense that doesn't feature big passes typically.


Those are just three reasons that Malone made the right call, probably.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
I wanted better for the kid.
With 1 more year, imho, he'd have earned twice as much and more.
Anybody care to disagree?
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I don't disagree with the idea.

The outcome from him staying could end up much different than "twice as much and more".

It's a gamble, with NFL kind of money.

Go VFL!
 
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Daloth said:
Other than the fact you are wrong about how much they made, in what world do you live that 110k before taxes isn't enough to live decently in ANY city? The average family of 4 doesn't even make 55k a year. How in the hell is TWICE THAT not good?
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Yeah, dog, you're going to drive up to practice every day in a Kia, never go out with your teammates clubbing, live in a $1,200 a month apartment with no furniture, never go home or back to see your friends in college (who all expect you to pick up the tab now that you're a NFL player) plus pay income taxes (fed, state and many local) far greater than any family of 4 pay on $55,000. Believe it or not, $110k gets gone fast in that lifestyle.

Obviously you have no clue how these guys live, even if they are on the practice squad. I wasn't aware that North was placed on IR (says the Rams probably want another look at him this year) thus I was wrong about how much he was paid. Same for Randolph.
 
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wmcovol said:
Yeah, dog, you're going to drive up to practice every day in a Kia, never go out with your teammates clubbing, live in a $1,200 a month apartment with no furniture, never go home or back to see your friends in college (who all expect you to pick up the tab now that you're a NFL player) plus pay income taxes (fed, state and many local) far greater than any family of 4 pay on $55,000. Believe it or not, $110k gets gone fast in that lifestyle.

Obviously you have no clue how these guys live, even if they are on the practice squad. I wasn't aware that North was placed on IR (says the Rams probably want another look at him this year) thus I was wrong about how much he was paid. Same for Randolph.
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If your dream was to play football in the NFL and you had the drive and commitment to make that happen, yeah you'd do that for a year, or however long it took to prove that you deserved a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract.
 
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The only bad thing for him leaving UT was that he would have had a legit passing QB this year that could have helped. However, he had the stats with an average passing game that prolly overhyped him with scouts and agents. He will get plenty of chances in Cincy.
 
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wmcovol said:
Yeah, dog, you're going to drive up to practice every day in a Kia, never go out with your teammates clubbing, live in a $1,200 a month apartment with no furniture, never go home or back to see your friends in college (who all expect you to pick up the tab now that you're a NFL player) plus pay income taxes (fed, state and many local) far greater than any family of 4 pay on $55,000. Believe it or not, $110k gets gone fast in that lifestyle.

Obviously you have no clue how these guys live, even if they are on the practice squad. I wasn't aware that North was placed on IR (says the Rams probably want another look at him this year) thus I was wrong about how much he was paid. Same for Randolph.
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Sounds like they are living their dream, even the guys on the practice squad.

Every NFL player isn't an instant multi-millionaire. Some still have to live on a budget.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Sounds like they are living their dream, even the guys on the practice squad.

Every NFL player isn't an instant multi-millionaire. Some still have to live on a budget.
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But almost none of them do.

Only a small few are disclipined enough to drive their ole college car into a NFL camp parking lot all year and park by M-B, BMWs, etc.
 
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Absolutely the right move on Malone's part. Any time you can secure an NFL salary, you go for it. The odds of a mid-round prospect having a down year and failing to make a roster entirely are greater and than the chances of shooting up into the 1st.
 
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Daloth said:
Other than the fact you are wrong about how much they made, in what world do you live that 110k before taxes isn't enough to live decently in ANY city? The average family of 4 doesn't even make 55k a year. How in the hell is TWICE THAT not good?
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If you rag on some one for being wrong better check first. He was right on minimum salary. Many teams pay minimum 53 man salary to practice squad guys they don't want to lose so you need to recognize that as well.

Also that's $117,000 minimum over 16 weeks. Not bad.
 
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wmcovol said:
Yeah, dog, you're going to drive up to practice every day in a Kia, never go out with your teammates clubbing, live in a $1,200 a month apartment with no furniture, never go home or back to see your friends in college (who all expect you to pick up the tab now that you're a NFL player) plus pay income taxes (fed, state and many local) far greater than any family of 4 pay on $55,000. Believe it or not, $110k gets gone fast in that lifestyle.

Obviously you have no clue how these guys live, even if they are on the practice squad. I wasn't aware that North was placed on IR (says the Rams probably want another look at him this year) thus I was wrong about how much he was paid. Same for Randolph.
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If you're a pick with a guaranteed contract making millions? Maybe you spend that way. If you go to buy a car and see that it's 1/4 of your yearly salary, anyone with an IQ above room temperature is going to be backing down on it.

If they don't? Then it doesn't matter if they make 40k or 4 million a year, they are going to spend it or lose it all.
 
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JohnD13 said:
If you rag on some one for being wrong better check first. He was right on minimum salary. Many teams pay minimum 53 man salary to practice squad guys they don't want to lose so you need to recognize that as well.

Also that's $117,000 minimum over 16 weeks. Not bad.
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Except that's not what he (North) would have made at the minimum, which is ~ 300k. And the discussion was North in L.A.

So, get your basic reading comprehension right first and then things might get easier.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If your dream was to play football in the NFL and you had the drive and commitment to make that happen, yeah you'd do that for a year, or however long it took to prove that you deserved a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract.
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People seem to forget (or maybe they never know) that even for 1st round picks, the vast majority of their earnings will come on the 2nd contract.
 
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wmcovol said:
Yeah, dog, you're going to drive up to practice every day in a Kia, never go out with your teammates clubbing, live in a $1,200 a month apartment with no furniture, never go home or back to see your friends in college (who all expect you to pick up the tab now that you're a NFL player) plus pay income taxes (fed, state and many local) far greater than any family of 4 pay on $55,000. Believe it or not, $110k gets gone fast in that lifestyle.

Obviously you have no clue how these guys live, even if they are on the practice squad. I wasn't aware that North was placed on IR (says the Rams probably want another look at him this year) thus I was wrong about how much he was paid. Same for Randolph.
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Guess you haven't watched many episodes of Hard Knocks. The rookies that didn't sign the huge contracts and the practice squad guys drive old cars and many of them get apartments together to split bills.
 
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Daloth said:
People seem to forget (or maybe they never know) that even for 1st round picks, the vast majority of their earnings will come on the 2nd contract.
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Unless they are a flop like Heath Shuler. He left early (iirc) and was set for life with his first contract.
 
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Daloth said:
People seem to forget (or maybe they never know) that even for 1st round picks, the vast majority of their earnings will come on the 2nd contract.
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If they make it to a 2nd contract.

If someone like Malone had stayed and then gone in the 1st round next year, he would have made more money on his first contract. That is guaranteed money even if he were to get hurt.
 
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sjt18 said:
If they make it to a 2nd contract.

If someone like Malone had stayed and then gone in the 1st round next year, he would have made more money on his first contract. That is guaranteed money even if he were to get hurt.
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That would be a big "if" for Malone, especially given the state of the offense, both in players and coaching in 2017; just too many unknowns.
 
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08Vol said:
Guess you haven't watched many episodes of Hard Knocks. The rookies that didn't sign the huge contracts and the practice squad guys drive old cars and many of them get apartments together to split bills.
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Because those rookies haven't been paid anything during training camp. The only money they have at that point is their signing bonus which is, unless they were drafted, basically pays the bills they incurred during training for combine, etc with their agent.

An contact of mine works at the M-B dealership in Cool Springs. He sells/leases a lot of slightly used/coming off lease cars/SUVs to rookies on the Titans who are on the team or practice squad. Most live in the Brentwood/Franklin area, not Antioch area. But nothing happens until the paychecks start rolling in after week 1.
 
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