Josh Dobbs - NFL Draft thread (merged)

[NashVol11]

Not at all - this phenomenon of getting overly enamored with the best (is he even the best?) QB in a weak QB draft class happens every time there is a weak QB class. Happened last year with Goff and Wentz.

Honestly, most classes have been pretty weak lately. Post-Luck (2012), Winston and Mariota have really been the only strong early-first round prospects.

 

[BearCat204]

Incorrect. You respond to things you don't know anything about and do so with a delusional certainty. I'm not guessing or asking. You are.

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Ok, I'll play. What reputable source is calling for Josh Dobbs to be drafted within the first two rounds of the NFL draft.

 

[OrangeDog]

Given the talent level of this QB class, #5 really isn't all that impressive. I think you can draft him late and look at him as a project. Flame away, but I just don't think he can consistently be a passing threat down the field.

Downright embarrassing!

 

[k-town_king]

I always 3-5 would be where he is drafted. I think that will be accurate. Maybe he can sneak into a late 2nd according to some reports.

 

[jakez4ut]

I always 3-5 would be where he is drafted. I think that will be accurate. Maybe he can sneak into a late 2nd according to some reports.

i think for that to happen, a serious run on QB's would have to take place, and a team find themselves still in need of a QB, that hadn't picked up one by then.

it's not a great class, and i think minus a couple of teams, those that would like to draft a QB will definitely wait as long as they can do so. i think Dobbs benefits if some of these qb desperate teams snatch up the kizers, watsons and trubisky's of the world, and leave the Dobbs, peterman and Mahomes types to later rounds.

but, if 4 qb's get taken between round 1 and early round 2, you may see someone make the move mid/later 2nd round just to make sure they get one....

if he's taken as the 3rd or 4th qb in the draft, then you know someone really fell in love with the guy.

 

[Dougie_D]

i think for that to happen, a serious run on QB's would have to take place, and a team find themselves still in need of a QB, that hadn't picked up one by then.

it's not a great class, and i think minus a couple of teams, those that would like to draft a QB will definitely wait as long as they can do so. i think Dobbs benefits if some of these qb desperate teams snatch up the kizers, watsons and trubisky's of the world, and leave the Dobbs, peterman and Mahomes types to later rounds.

but, if 4 qb's get taken between round 1 and early round 2, you may see someone make the move mid/later 2nd round just to make sure they get one....

if he's taken as the 3rd or 4th qb in the draft, then you know someone really fell in love with the guy.

Yeah you are right. There's about 25 QBs declaring draft. The odds are in your favor to get drafted by a team if you are a QB. I only see about 7 teams that might draft a QB for their starter or future. Every other team will draft for depth. I think there are only 3-4 teams willing to draft Dobbs. The real question is how fast the other QBs get drafted. If Dobbs gets drafted in 2nd/3rd round it's because more than 5 teams snatched a QB. It has nothing to do how good Dobbs is. It has everything to do with how many QBs go before him

 

[butchna]

hasn't chaney been at ARK and UGA since his time at UT?

Pitt was the meat in that sandwich. :yuck:

 

[James K Folks]

Ok, I'll play. What reputable source is calling for Josh Dobbs to be drafted within the first two rounds of the NFL draft.

The director of pro personnel for an nfl team told me that many think it's possible, which means it's not laughable, which makes you incorrect. Not particularly complicated. There is a giant chasm between "laughable" and "likely", you're manipulating the argument because you know precisely two things, jack and ****.

Glad you played. Remember, when you are clueless, like bear, use your question marks.

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[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Honestly, most classes have been pretty weak lately. Post-Luck (2012), Winston and Mariota have really been the only strong early-first round prospects.

And yet the best young QBs in the NFL are Derek Carr (2014 - 2nd round pick) and Dak Prescott (2016 - 4th round pick).

I would take Derek Carr and Dak Prescott before Winston and Mariota anyday of the week.

Just goes to show you can find a better QB in the middle rounds than in round 1.

 

[James K Folks]

forgot he was at Pitt for a year.

they were together at TN in 2012, and Pitt in 2015.

chaney was at ARK before Pitt, and currently at UGA.

Affirmative

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Yeah you are right. There's about 25 QBs declaring draft. The odds are in your favor to get drafted by a team if you are a QB. I only see about 7 teams that might draft a QB for their starter or future. Every other team will draft for depth. I think there are only 3-4 teams willing to draft Dobbs. The real question is how fast the other QBs get drafted. If Dobbs gets drafted in 2nd/3rd round it's because more than 5 teams snatched a QB. It has nothing to do how good Dobbs is. It has everything to do with how many QBs go before him

But what if Dobbs ends up being the 5th QB off the board and goes in the early 2nd round?

Will you finally give him credit or will you continue to discount his talent?

 

[James K Folks]

Given the talent level of this QB class, #5 really isn't all that impressive. I think you can draft him late and look at him as a project. Flame away, but I just don't think he can consistently be a passing threat down the field.

Of every draft eligible human on the planet, Josh Dobbs being the 5th best at the most popular and glorified position in sports is - uhh idk - impressive.

 

[114VOL]

GREAT For Josh!! Means he will probably get some time to develop, instead getting Thrown to the Wolves!! :rock::rock:



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I don't think there are any NFL teams thinking of drafting and starting him right away. He's a project, but one with tremendous potential

 

[James K Folks]

And yet the best young QBs in the NFL are Derek Carr (2014 - 2nd round pick) and Dak Prescott (2016 - 4th round pick).

I would take Derek Carr and Dak Prescott before Winston and Mariota anyday of the week.

Just goes to show you can find a better QB in the middle rounds than in round 1.

Wentz is better than Dak.

 

[114VOL]

No they didn't. Their gameplans to start games were downright awful because they rarely featured Josh and mostly tried to hide him. Then the game would get out of hand as we fall behind multiple scores. Then Butch and DeBord would scrap the original gameplan and let Dobbs be Dobbs. Then we come roaring back and dominate the rest of the game.

Almost everyone of Dobbs greatest games came with us trying to come back from some large deficit. I don't give Butch Jones or Mike DeBord any credit for those performances. Those were all Josh Dobbs.

That won't work in the NFL

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Ok, I'll play. What reputable source is calling for Josh Dobbs to be drafted within the first two rounds of the NFL draft.

Todd McShay for one. Mel Kiper also said it was possible.

The buzz now is that Dobbs has a 3rd round grade from most teams. And considering the fact most QBs end up getting drafted a round earlier than their grade because of need, there is a good chance he goes in round 2.

Remember Watson and Trubisky have mostly 2nd round grades, yet it's presumed they go in round 1. If Josh has mostly 3rd round grades right now, then he's got a good chance to go in round 2.

 

[James K Folks]

Todd McShay for one. Mel Kiper also said it was possible.

The buzz now is that Dobbs has a 3rd round grade from most teams. And considering the fact most QBs end up getting drafted a round earlier than their grade because of need, there is a good chance he goes in round 2.

Remember Watson and Trubisky have mostly 2nd round grades, yet it's presumed they go in round 1. If Josh has mostly 3rd round grades right now, then he's got a good chance to go in round 2.

I wonder how many teams are consulting Mcshays big board.

 

[Iam4utalways]

Yeah you are right. There's about 25 QBs declaring draft. The odds are in your favor to get drafted by a team if you are a QB. I only see about 7 teams that might draft a QB for their starter or future. Every other team will draft for depth. I think there are only 3-4 teams willing to draft Dobbs. The real question is how fast the other QBs get drafted. If Dobbs gets drafted in 2nd/3rd round it's because more than 5 teams snatched a QB. It has nothing to do how good Dobbs is. It has everything to do with how many QBs go before him

Dobbs being drafted has nothing to do with how good he is?

Try again.

 

[114VOL]

When Chaney left Arky to Pitt, I believe that's when Peterman transferred. Then Matt Canada was his last OC/QB after Chaney went to GA

Peterman will never be a starter in the NFL. His arm isn't nearly strong enough. In college, he made up for it with great anticipation. In the NFL, the DBs are light speed better than the college DBs. Perhaps he'll make an adequate backup, but that's the extent

 

[EricFreakingBerry]

Well, there it is....I had misplaced my sense of humor this weekend. Looks like I found it.

 

[BigDave]

We have 2 more QBs with high NFL ceilings as well right now in Dormady and Guarantano.

Butch Jones knows how to find talent. His problem is he doesn't know how to utilize it.

Lets hope he's learned from his past experiences and finally coaches a team to it's full potential in 2017.

Does this mean you will be changing your screen name to "Dormady 4 Heisman" or "Guarantano 4 Heisman"?

lol:

 

[Dougie_D]

And yet the best young QBs in the NFL are Derek Carr (2014 - 2nd round pick) and Dak Prescott (2016 - 4th round pick).

I would take Derek Carr and Dak Prescott before Winston and Mariota anyday of the week.

Just goes to show you can find a better QB in the middle rounds than in round 1.

Derek Carr was like 34th pick overall.. yes he was 2nd round but he could've easily been a first rounder.

If you want to get really technical , I can see Dobbs being in the 120-135 pick overall.

 

[Dougie_D]

Dobbs being drafted has nothing to do with how good he is?

Try again.

I meant him being drafted in 2nd round doesn't mean he's got 2nd round "talent"
It would be because so many other QBs went earlier than what they should've gone in
Draft is a domino effect

 

[bamawriter]

Just goes to show you can find a better QB in the middle rounds than in round 1.

You can do so, but it is by no means a guarantee.

19 of the 32 NFL teams are heading into 2017 with a first rounder at QB. 3 others have QBs that were taken within the first 4 picks of the second round.

 

[jakez4ut]

Yeah you are right. There's about 25 QBs declaring draft. The odds are in your favor to get drafted by a team if you are a QB. I only see about 7 teams that might draft a QB for their starter or future. Every other team will draft for depth. I think there are only 3-4 teams willing to draft Dobbs. The real question is how fast the other QBs get drafted. If Dobbs gets drafted in 2nd/3rd round it's because more than 5 teams snatched a QB. It has nothing to do how good Dobbs is. It has everything to do with how many QBs go before him

that's not what i said.