Josh Dobbs - NFL Draft thread (merged)

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#680
KBVol said:
Wow. Alan Cockrell, the 26 career touchdown passes/27 career interceptions guy who ran for -16 yards in his career.....who quarterbacked Tennessee to 6-5-1 and 9-3 seasons....who was actually a better baseball player? Alrighty...

And stop with Warren and Scott. They were solid QBs in a resoundingly different era of college football. Neither were nearly as athletic and productive as either Josh or Erik, simply couldn't do what those two could.
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Are you old enough to have watched Cockrell, or are you simply referring to stats as the other "experts" here use as their barometer
 
#682
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I don't know if any body has mentioned it yet but I know people on here were interested. Josh Dobbs will be on Gruden's QB camp TONIGHT @ 6:30 pm on ESPN2.
 
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I'm spreading the word in multiple threads because I know people on here were interested. Josh Dobbs on gruden's QB camp TONIGHT @ 6:30 pm ESPN2.
 
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114VOL said:
Are you old enough to have watched Cockrell, or are you simply referring to stats as the other "experts" here use as their barometer
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Stats are pretty good barometers. Not quite up to par with you being old and "just knowing" stuff...but us'n experts are satisfied with it.

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114VOL said:
Are you old enough to have watched Cockrell, or are you simply referring to stats as the other "experts" here use as their barometer
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If those eyes have as many miles on them as you claim... time to get em checked, I mean if that's the only measure you're gonna use, might as well make sure they're doing you service.

And ftr (for the record for our seniors) I go back to Daryl dickey and Alan cockrell...

Manning
Robinson
Shuler
Clausen
Kelly
Dobbs
Ainge
 
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butchna said:
Stats are pretty good barometers. Not quite up to par with you being old and "just knowing" stuff...but us'n experts are satisfied with it.

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They can be but it's not necessarily a measure of the best players. Not saying it doesn't matter, but often times stats can be misleading as to the best players. Leadership can't be measured yet it can be seen. Checking into the right plays isn't measured yet we can see it when it happens. Recent QBs at UT have done little if any check-offs. It was a norm back in the early 80s till late 90s. Cockrell and Robinson were both masters at checking off at the LOS. That's why I rate Cockrell ahead of Dobbs and Ainge. His field general qualities were huge, especially against Alabama. I've never seen another QB at UT have a better game with check-offs than Cockrell's game at Alabama in 1983. It was a masterpiece
 
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jakez4ut said:
If those eyes have as many miles on them as you claim... time to get em checked, I mean if that's the only measure you're gonna use, might as well make sure they're doing you service.

And ftr (for the record for our seniors) I go back to Daryl dickey and Alan cockrell...

Manning
Robinson
Shuler
Clausen
Kelly
Dobbs
Ainge
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That's a pretty good list. Not much for debate with me on it other than Martin and Cockrell
 
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114VOL said:
You had to forget about Tony Robinson
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I did. TRob was arguably the most talented qb to ever play at Tennessee, just didn't have the full body of work due to injury and off the field issues. He's easily top 10, well ahead of Tee Martin, that's for damn sure....just like Josh Dobbs.
 
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114VOL said:
They can be but it's not necessarily a measure of the best players. Not saying it doesn't matter, but often times stats can be misleading as to the best players. Leadership can't be measured yet it can be seen. Checking into the right plays isn't measured yet we can see it when it happens. Recent QBs at UT have done little if any check-offs. It was a norm back in the early 80s till late 90s. Cockrell and Robinson were both masters at checking off at the LOS. That's why I rate Cockrell ahead of Dobbs and Ainge. His field general qualities were huge, especially against Alabama. I've never seen another QB at UT have a better game with check-offs than Cockrell's game at Alabama in 1983. It was a masterpiece
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I remember when he played. Saw a gamer who would throw an untimely interception on you. Jeff Francis was better imo.
 
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jakez4ut said:
If those eyes have as many miles on them as you claim... time to get em checked, I mean if that's the only measure you're gonna use, might as well make sure they're doing you service.

And ftr (for the record for our seniors) I go back to Daryl dickey and Alan cockrell...

Manning
Robinson
Shuler
Clausen
Kelly
Dobbs
Ainge
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That's as good a list as you'll get. Tee belongs nowhere near it.
 
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114VOL said:
Are you old enough to have watched Cockrell, or are you simply referring to stats as the other "experts" here use as their barometer
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Stop with the whippersnapper routine, it's getting old.

I saw Cockrell play many times, I was 15-16 when he was our starter. He was good, solid, nothing special. Certainly not worthy of being ranked higher than two of our winningest, most productive QBs in Ainge and Dobbs. Not close. Putting up production in route to wins is what counts....both Ainge and Dobbs were much better st both, no matter how many times Cockrell checked from fullback dive right to fullback dive left.

Perhaps you're too old to still be able to recognize what you see and evaluate quarterbacks properly? Sure looks that way based on your posts.
 
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KBVol said:
Stop with the whippersnapper routine, it's getting old.

I saw Cockrell play many times, I was 15-16 when he was our starter. He was good, solid, nothing special. Certainly not worthy of being ranked higher than two of our winningest, most productive QBs in Ainge and Dobbs. Not close.

Perhaps you're too old to still be able to recognize what you see and evaluate quarterbacks properly? Sure looks that way based on your posts.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. No worries. I'm not so old that I can't evaluate properly. Don't care what my posts look like to you. I have credibility where I need it
 
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KBVol said:
I did. TRob was arguably the most talented qb to ever play at Tennessee, just didn't have the full body of work due to injury and off the field issues. He's easily top 10, well ahead of Tee Martin, that's for damn sure....just like Josh Dobbs.
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Robinson was in a different stratosphere of QB than Dobbs
 
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114VOL said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. No worries. I'm not so old that I can't evaluate properly. Don't care what my posts look like to you. I have credibility where I need it
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Then you have somewhere to be. :wavey:
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114VOL said:
Robinson was in a different stratosphere of QB than Dobbs
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Throwing the ball yes. But if he was in a different stratosphere than Dobbs, he was in a different galaxy than Martin, who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
 
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