Josh Dobbs just has IT

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Doctrippin said:
I think the coaches might have been worried about him running too much and getting hurt, and you have to think about that. If he goes down, there goes half our our rushing offense.
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Think about this...He doesn't become half our rushing offense by asking him not to run the ball.
 
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Broke tackles to score twice. Stiff armed a would-be-tackler to pickup first down. He is a great runner.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He can run. He can make a busted play productive in that respect.

But he is inaccurate with his throws and even an average defense can contain him because he stares down his target 90 % of the time.
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I'd say Florida is a pretty solid defense and he ran all over you guys.
 
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led0321 said:
I agree with you but I would argue he had far better pass blocking last night with Hall and Jones on the right side.
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I think all of us don't discount what the two young guys were doing over there on the right side. There were times that entire side of the UGA defense was being crushed. Just watch that last TD that Dobbs took into the end zone, those kids were crushing the Dawg defenders. DBs came up just reaching for Dobbs which he ran through, but interior defenders were just not there.
 
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Love Josh and thought he was a great playmaker yesterday. But if we're honest, he didn't have "IT" vs Oklahoma and Arky....kinda had "IT" vs Florida, just not enough.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He can run. He can make a busted play productive in that respect.

But he is inaccurate with his throws and even an average defense can contain him because he stares down his target 90 % of the time.
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Yeah, I wasn't talking to you. Thanks.

KBVol said:
Love Josh and thought he was a great playmaker yesterday. But if we're honest, he didn't have "IT" vs Oklahoma and Arky....kinda had "IT" vs Florida, just not enough.
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He was being coached to be something he's not in the OK, FL, and AK game. And he tried to make himself into what the coaches wanted him to be.

The Butch Jones failure was not trusting him to be What He Is. They ordered him not to throw to the middle because they feared turnovers. They wanted him to be a pocket passer who could make a couple of plays per game with his legs. They didn't trust the team or Josh Dobbs.

I hope it wasn't just desperation that they let him ball; throw down the middle of the field. Yeah, he had a really bad pass when we rolled left. Josh Smith made a great adjustment. He's not going to be an NFL QB - I don't care. He Made Plays.

If they understood what they have at QB and worked with that rather than trying to force him to make endless throws to the sidelines from the pocket, Tennessee is undefeated and Top 5 with one hell of a resume.

Alabama struggles with mobile QBs. Let Josh Play.
 
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I actually think his success had more to do with the game situation then anything. When we play from behind Donbs plays with a loosness and determination. When we have the lead he's afraid to make a mistake. Also o-line protection got better as the game went on. Dobbs is not a traditional QB, his legs make him special. Not his arm.

I'd like to see some more passes on early downs because we become very predictable at times. Also thank you to who ever is responsible for deciding to run some pass routes down the middle of the field. We finally started running routes that everyone else runs, routes that are run for a reason, because they work on a consistent basis.
 
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UTK said:
Dormady will be QB in 2017. Wanna bet??
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Everyone seems to be forgetting about Sheriron Jones. Word is that he has the best release of all the QBs and pretty pinpoint accuracy.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I have been critical of Dobbs accuracy. However, he has a better completion % than Tee Martin.
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In Tee's defense, he was working with a seperated shoulder most of his senior year while having to rely on bobby Graham and Leonard Scott (Cedrick was a good possession WR, but was hurt most of the year). We also weren't calling high percentage throws to the extent that we do now. Tee threw it down field A LOT.
 
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I posted this in another thread and thought it was relevant here.

Read my previous posts, I am not anti-Dobbs and want him to do well. But, let's be real and talk about facts when it comes to Dobbs' shortcomings as a passer.

I was bored so I watched every GA pass of his again and charted if it was on target or not. On target means the receiver did not have to adjust to the ball. And I was somewhat generous on that and was not overly critical.

On passes of 10 yards and under (QB to receiver - not inclusive of YAC), 19 of 21 of his passes were on target with one of the 2 misses being under pressure. Excellent stats - with 17 of 21 completed for 80%. Of course, with most of those being in the flat and screens, we would expect that.

On passes more than 10 yards, 9 of 19 were on target and he wasn't under any significant pressure on the misses. Not so good with 8 of the 19 completed for 42%. Those of you are astute will notice I'm 2 passes off from the stats - that is because I didn't count the 2 of them because one was tipped at the LOS and he threw one away.

I think we can all agree this was his best game this year and his down field passes were still off target for the most part. I'll say that his decision making was really good this game and he did make some excellent throws. I believe his best throw was the pass in the end zone to Wolf that he dropped. His placement was perfect and that was an awesome pass. Wolf just couldn't control it.

I saw improvement last night and I firmly believe he can continue to get better and more accurate on his throws. When his passing catches up to the rest of his game (running, leadership, etc.), it is going to be awesome.

He has earned the right to keep his job and gives us the best chance to win. I think he proved that last night. But there is still plenty of room for improvement.
 
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jps2194 said:
I posted this in another thread and thought it was relevant here.

Read my previous posts, I am not anti-Dobbs and want him to do well. But, let's be real and talk about facts when it comes to Dobbs' shortcomings as a passer.

I was bored so I watched every GA pass of his again and charted if it was on target or not. On target means the receiver did not have to adjust to the ball. And I was somewhat generous on that and was not overly critical.

On passes of 10 yards and under (QB to receiver - not inclusive of YAC), 19 of 21 of his passes were on target with one of the 2 misses being under pressure. Excellent stats - with 17 of 21 completed for 80%. Of course, with most of those being in the flat and screens, we would expect that.

On passes more than 10 yards, 9 of 19 were on target and he wasn't under any significant pressure on the misses. Not so good with 8 of the 19 completed for 42%. Those of you are astute will notice I'm 2 passes off from the stats - that is because I didn't count the 2 of them because one was tipped at the LOS and he threw one away.

I think we can all agree this was his best game this year and his down field passes were still off target for the most part. I'll say that his decision making was really good this game and he did make some excellent throws. I believe his best throw was the pass in the end zone to Wolf that he dropped. His placement was perfect and that was an awesome pass. Wolf just couldn't control it.

I saw improvement last night and I firmly believe he can continue to get better and more accurate on his throws. When his passing catches up to the rest of his game (running, leadership, etc.), it is going to be awesome.

He has earned the right to keep his job and gives us the best chance to win. I think he proved that last night. But there is still plenty of room for improvement.
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If his feet are perfectly set and the first read is there, he is great (as most QB's should be). Other than that, the ball does not come out very well. There is a mechanical flaw in his motion, and I hope over this next off-season it gets fixed. If he cleans up his accuracy, WOW....we will be on to something.

Hopefully his performance in the last 32 minutes on Saturday springboards the confidence of not only him, but the entire team. Confidence is a funny thing with 18-22 year olds. We have all seen and suffered through teams that didn't have confidence they could close games.
 
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jps2194 said:
I posted this in another thread and thought it was relevant here.

Read my previous posts, I am not anti-Dobbs and want him to do well. But, let's be real and talk about facts when it comes to Dobbs' shortcomings as a passer.

I was bored so I watched every GA pass of his again and charted if it was on target or not. On target means the receiver did not have to adjust to the ball. And I was somewhat generous on that and was not overly critical.

On passes of 10 yards and under (QB to receiver - not inclusive of YAC), 19 of 21 of his passes were on target with one of the 2 misses being under pressure. Excellent stats - with 17 of 21 completed for 80%. Of course, with most of those being in the flat and screens, we would expect that.

On passes more than 10 yards, 9 of 19 were on target and he wasn't under any significant pressure on the misses. Not so good with 8 of the 19 completed for 42%. Those of you are astute will notice I'm 2 passes off from the stats - that is because I didn't count the 2 of them because one was tipped at the LOS and he threw one away.

I think we can all agree this was his best game this year and his down field passes were still off target for the most part. I'll say that his decision making was really good this game and he did make some excellent throws. I believe his best throw was the pass in the end zone to Wolf that he dropped. His placement was perfect and that was an awesome pass. Wolf just couldn't control it.

I saw improvement last night and I firmly believe he can continue to get better and more accurate on his throws. When his passing catches up to the rest of his game (running, leadership, etc.), it is going to be awesome.

He has earned the right to keep his job and gives us the best chance to win. I think he proved that last night. But there is still plenty of room for improvement.
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Would like to know your take on Dobbs mechanics when he's accurate and when he's not. I haven't broken it down like you have but just in casual observation, in game replays, it seems to me if he gets his feet under him and throws off his front foot he's pretty accurate. Another thing to consider is we don't know if the receivers are where they are supposed to be. I think it was Pearson that failed to "sit down" in the open space in the zone going South on the Eastside and the ball was thrown behind him or where the receiver should have slowed or stopped. If Dobbs had lead him the balls going to the safety help coming. Nice write up. Great to see some thoughts other than he's great no he sucks.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Yeah, I wasn't talking to you. Thanks.



He was being coached to be something he's not in the OK, FL, and AK game. And he tried to make himself into what the coaches wanted him to be.

The Butch Jones failure was not trusting him to be What He Is. They ordered him not to throw to the middle because they feared turnovers. They wanted him to be a pocket passer who could make a couple of plays per game with his legs. They didn't trust the team or Josh Dobbs.

I hope it wasn't just desperation that they let him ball; throw down the middle of the field. Yeah, he had a really bad pass when we rolled left. Josh Smith made a great adjustment. He's not going to be an NFL QB - I don't care. He Made Plays.

If they understood what they have at QB and worked with that rather than trying to force him to make endless throws to the sidelines from the pocket, Tennessee is undefeated and Top 5 with one hell of a resume.

Alabama struggles with mobile QBs. Let Josh Play.
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Agreed. Josh has a certain, somewhat limited skillset in terms of throwing the ball. It's obvious to anyone who's watched him play which throws he can make/feels comfortable with....crossing routes and seam routes in the middle of the field. He's also developed a decent 10-15 yd back shoulder throw. Let throw those along with the 300 or so WR bubble screens every game. Additionally, he has to be allowed to run the ball 10-15 times a game, some off the read option, some on designed runs. If they try to make him a pocket passer throwing consistently to the boundaries or on go routes and couple that with not letting him run the ball, we're gonna get a lot more "Arky game Dobbs" and a lot less "Georgia game Dobbs"...and that's no good.
 
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What if we have Dormandy as our QB next year and make Dobbs an RB?

Before you hate, think about it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He can run. He can make a busted play productive in that respect.

But he is inaccurate with his throws and even an average defense can contain him because he stares down his target 90 % of the time.
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Most college QBs do stare down their first target.
 
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1974Vol said:
Would like to know your take on Dobbs mechanics when he's accurate and when he's not. I haven't broken it down like you have but just in casual observation, in game replays, it seems to me if he gets his feet under him and throws off his front foot he's pretty accurate. Another thing to consider is we don't know if the receivers are where they are supposed to be. I think it was Pearson that failed to "sit down" in the open space in the zone going South on the Eastside and the ball was thrown behind him or where the receiver should have slowed or stopped. If Dobbs had lead him the balls going to the safety help coming. Nice write up. Great to see some thoughts other than he's great no he sucks.
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The funny thing is I was looking for that and nothing jumped out on his mechanics. I noticed some of his biggest misses were throwing to his left and he struggled throwing on the run.

I honestly think we aren't developing him as a passer. He needs to spend some time with Cutcliffe !
 
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