Jordy Mac on Jim Rome--anyone catch it?

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^everyone knows that petitions only work at 30K signatures and over...come on!
 
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Spartacavolus said:
How many people that signed it really thought it would bring Pearl back?
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not me when i signed...i thought it was fairly humorous when it made local and national news. i especially laughed when i heard the guy that created it on sportstalk.

i would not have signed it if i had known it would bring on all these ridiculous apology threads and other petition threads.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Here's the funny thing about those saying the petition worked...

Attention:

The Bruce Pearl Petition started on February 12, 2014, on February 22, 2014 the petition already has 20k signatures. You know what also happened that day, the Texas A&M loss.

So if this petition is what caused the turnaround, why did it magically happen AFTER the A&M loss?
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well it was first reported by a local station on the 18th.....then the most of the rest of the media(local and national) started reporting on it after the texas A&M game. either way who cares, we are winning and thats all that matters.
 
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tnvols72 said:
People can say what they want but the petition got Martins attention. the Martin we have seen since the A&M loss isn't the same coach we have in the last 3 years. He has fire and shows emotion. If anybody says all the talk about him getting fired and the petition did not have anything to do with it is in denial.
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ranradVOL said:
The people in denial are those who thought the petition would ever work.
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It seems that generally the people who signed the petition wanted a team that was playing with fire, passion, and to their abilities. Perhaps the vitriol was misplaced on Martin, and admittedly it is questionable if the petition had a direct impact on the team's performance, but ultimately those who signed the petition (myself included), got exactly what they wanted (though not what the petition specifically asked for).

And, while I regret signing the thing, the petition itself has added some majesty to the narrative of this Tennessee team as they perform in the tournament. Every announcer gleefully points out that this is the same coach who fans wanted replaced a few months ago. Without that petition, the media story line loses some shine. In a way, the petition has become some of the fuel for the large media narrative surrounding the team currently. Even if you believe the petition had zero effect on the team's performance, it has undoubtedly had some effect on the team's coverage.

tl;dr The media loves the Cinderella or under-dog story, and the Vol fan's discontent via the petition has made Tennessee's story more compelling, fueling even more coverage. Media coverage of this team is warranted and is good for the overall program. Ultimately it could be argued that the petition was good for the program, even if it feels a bit embarrassing for those who signed it (me).

Yes, I have publicly renounced my sins:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...ake-up-disappointing-season.html#post10013008
 
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daj2576 said:
It seems that generally the people who signed the petition wanted a team that was playing with fire, passion, and to their abilities. Perhaps the vitriol was misplaced on Martin, and admittedly it is questionable if the petition had a direct impact on the team's performance, but ultimately those who signed the petition (myself included), got exactly what they wanted (though not what the petition specifically asked for).

And, while I regret signing the thing, the petition itself has added some majesty to the narrative of this Tennessee team as they perform in the tournament. Every announcer gleefully points out that this is the same coach who fans wanted replaced a few months ago. Without that petition, the media story line loses some shine. In a way, the petition has become some of the fuel for the large media narrative surrounding the team currently. Even if you believe the petition had zero effect on the team's performance, it has undoubtedly had some effect on the team's coverage.

tl;dr The media loves the Cinderella or under-dog story, and the Vol fan's discontent via the petition has made Tennessee's story more compelling, fueling even more coverage. Media coverage of this team is warranted and is good for the overall program. Ultimately it could be argued that the petition was good for the program, even if it feels a bit embarrassing for those who signed it (me).

Yes, I have publicly renounced my sins:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...ake-up-disappointing-season.html#post10013008
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Believe me, it's become embarrassing for those of us who didn't sign it as well.
 
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All you need to know about Jim Rome.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57W05-oopNA[/youtube]

It wasn't staged btw
 
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Insert argument for either side based on reading into a comment from Jordy that may or may not have any relation to the petition
 
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volbeast33 said:
well it was first reported by a local station on the 18th.....then the most of the rest of the media(local and national) started reporting on it after the texas A&M game. either way who cares, we are winning and thats all that matters.
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This ^^^

I dont think the petition was the only reason. However Ido believe it was a major reason along with the A & M loss. I think Martin took an us against the world approach and challenged the players to prove the world wrong.
 
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volbeast33 said:
well it was first reported by a local station on the 18th.....then the most of the rest of the media(local and national) started reporting on it after the texas A&M game. either way who cares, we are winning and thats all that matters.
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This. The petition is what started most of the national media heat on CCM. But like you said who cares we are winning now and Idc what caused it. But if it makes you sleep better BTO the petition had 0% to do with the team waking up.
 
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Jordan did an interview for Ferrall on the Bench last night. Another CBS Sports Radio national show.
 
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tnvols72 said:
I wouldn't worry too much about somebody calling anybody an idiot. After all probably 90% of them signed the petition. The same ones calling people an idiot will be signing their 3rd petition next year if Tn goes 15-15. That's how it works in VN land.
Im still not sold on Martin but that is my opinion.
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Sad isn't it...Vol fans can't enjoy a team's Success.

Must have drama. Must predict next years downfall without finishing this years success.

Geez we are still in the moment, between now and the start of next years season many things can change for the best or for the worse. No way of knowing at this juncture.

To be honest, the Texas A&M game was the worse game I have ever seen coached. Maybe all of the players and coaches learned from it through self evaluations and an open meeting. Whatever, it happened, should have happened and was going to happen regardless of the petition.

Think about it. A recruit can come in, Martin could leave, players lights come on.... Look at Josh Richardson and his development, give CCM some credit.

Fans may not like CCMs style of play, but it maybe a winning one that we can't see. I have given my share of criticism, but I had to adjust and it would be better for all of us to table this discussion for next year and enjoy the ride this year...

Right now support this team and coaches, it surely will be more pleasurable.

To argue over a petition as to whether it had results or now is stupid, not saying it did and not saying it didn't. At this point it makes no difference does it.

FWIW, It's gone. ZERO AFFECT AT THIS TIME except Negativity. To think about any petition next year is just dumb.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
This. The petition is what started most of the national media heat on CCM. But like you said who cares we are winning now and Idc what caused it. But if it makes you sleep better BTO the petition had 0% to do with the team waking up.
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If the petition is why we are winning then why did we lose to A&M when the petition had 20k signatures?

Seems contradictory.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If the petition is why we are winning then why did we lose to A&M when the petition had 20k signatures?

Seems contradictory.
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Perhaps the petition was a distraction leading up to the aTm game, which led to poor play in that stretch, and after that game, they had the meeting to decide that things like that petition could no longer affect their on court performance, their focus, and their goal. Maybe they decided to band together in that meeting to make that petition as worthless as the bandwidth it was coded on, and figgt for their coach and their season. That's what senior leaders do.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Perhaps the petition was a distraction leading up to the aTm game, which led to poor play in that stretch, and after that game, they had the meeting to decide that things like that petition could no longer affect their on court performance, their focus, and their goal. Maybe they decided to band together in that meeting to make that petition as worthless as the bandwidth it was coded on, and figgt for their coach and their season. That's what senior leaders do.
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Or maybe the petition was never mentioned, and players bought in as they've all said. They cleared the air with coaches in a team meeting, and play has improved?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Or maybe the petition was never mentioned, and players bought in as they've all said. They cleared the air with coaches in a team meeting, and play has improved?
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I'm open to that interpretation too, but you seem to believe it as gospel truth with no evidence that it is in fact true.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I'm open to that interpretation too, but you seem to believe it as gospel truth with no evidence that it is in fact true.
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No not at all.

Could it be part of the negativity players have referenced? Absolutely.

What I have an issue with is those acting as if it's 100% fact that the petition is what they're referring to, or that it played a part. The biggest issue I've had is seeing comments like "if not for this petition we wouldn't even have made the NCAAT", that's where my issue is.
 
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