Jones recruiting history.

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I certainly don't want this to turn into a naming of names but I am very curious about past classes that Jones has put together. With so many early commitments I think this question is very relevant.


Does Jones have a history of asking early commitments to look elsewhere later on in the recruiting process as numbers get tight????
 
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BruinVol said:
I certainly don't want this to turn into a naming of names but I am very curious about past classes that Jones has put together. With so many early commitments I think this question is very relevant.


Does Jones have a history of asking early commitments to look elsewhere later on in the recruiting process as numbers get tight????
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Go back and look at these numbers and you will clearly see what CBJ is doing is unlike what hes done at other schools. Hes adapting to this new culture and embracing it and bringing new life to UT!

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2010 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2013 Cincinnati Commitments
 
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You can't compare UT recruiting to Cincy or CMU. Elite level or even average 2/3 stars don't commit early to Cincy or CMU and begin recruiting hardcore using twitter. UT is a different animal with much more to sell.

Butch has been preparing for a big boy job like this for awhile now and seems to have been extremely prepared and hit the ground running. It's like he knew exactly what needed to be done from day 1 and he's been doing it.

I don't think any of our current commitments are guys he'll ask to look around. No diamond in the rough Dooley types.
 
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JacketVol said:
Bruin,

Don't make me have to send Carrie Underwood back over there.
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Lol.


I think with the current pace of recruiting dictating earlier and earlier commitments that coaches better be ready to cut kids loose late in the process for the better of the program. I hope jones will do that
 
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Not sure if he's one to ask people to decommit. I doubt he had that "problem" before at Cincinnati and Central Michigan.

Someone had a post a while back where they showed Cincinnati's Rivals class rankings over the last 15 years or so, which included the Brian Kelly years. I seem to recall it being clear that Butch Jones on average recruited better at Cincinnati than any previous coach. So there may have been evidence in the past that he was a top notch recruiter. All he needed was something to sell...
 
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Ron Swanson said:
You can't compare UT recruiting to Cincy or CMU. Elite level or even average 2/3 stars don't commit early to Cincy or CMU and begin recruiting hardcore using twitter. UT is a different animal with much more to sell.

Butch has been preparing for a big boy job like this for awhile now and seems to have been extremely prepared and hit the ground running. It's like he knew exactly what needed to be done from day 1 and he's been doing it.
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Ron

Do you expect him to make hard decisions like this late in the timeline??
 
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BruinVol said:
Ron

Do you expect him to make hard decisions like this late in the timeline??
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I don't think Butch has taken a commitment from a kid he might not have room for. Otherwise, Caleb Kinlaw would be a Vol right now. Now having said that, he certainly didn't have trouble getting rid of a few Dooley commitments after he was hired. So, yes, if he had to make room, I'm sure he would.
 
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kentuckianavol said:
Go back and look at these numbers and you will clearly see what CBJ is doing is unlike what hes done at other schools. Hes adapting to this new culture and embracing it and bringing new life to UT!

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2010 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2013 Cincinnati Commitments
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Disagree, those stats do show that that he has a tendency to get and take early commitments relative to his competition. In 2011 for example he had double digit commits by the end of the summer while most of the rest of the conference got most of their commitments from December on.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
I don't think Butch has taken a commitment from a kid he might not have room for. Otherwise, Caleb Kinlaw would be a Vol right now. Now having said that, he certainly didn't have trouble getting rid of a few Dooley commitments after he was hired. So, yes, if he had to make room, I'm sure he would.
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I agree I think he will. I was just curious if he had done the same at Cincy
 
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vol2002 said:
Not sure if he's one to ask people to decommit. I doubt he had that "problem" before at Cincinnati and Central Michigan.

Someone had a post a while back where they showed Cincinnati's Rivals class rankings over the last 15 years or so, which included the Brian Kelly years. I seem to recall it being clear that Butch Jones on average recruited better at Cincinnati than any previous coach. So there may have been evidence in the past that he was a top notch recruiter. All he needed was something to sell...
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Average recruiting class by coach since 2002

Rick Minter: 96
Mark Dantonio: 119.5
Brian Kelly: 88
Butch Jones: 54.5

Granted the actual meaning of those stats is up for debate as Cincinnati made 3 good coaching hires in a row, and obviously recruiting improves with the the state of your program assuming you follow the previous guy up with another good coach. For example unlike Kelly and Dantonio, CBJ came into a program that had just appeared in a BCS bowl game.
 
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Let me put it this way,

Butch has always had talent but the music always sounds better on a bigger stage and Tennessee is one of the biggest.
 
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CBJ recruiting at previous schools is like Chuck Norris using medieval weapons.

CBJ recruiting at UT is like Chuck Norris using the latest military weaponry.

At least that's what it seems like so far...
 
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The situation is different. Have faith in "the process"
 
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BruinVol said:
I certainly don't want this to turn into a naming of names but I am very curious about past classes that Jones has put together. With so many early commitments I think this question is very relevant.


Does Jones have a history of asking early commitments to look elsewhere later on in the recruiting process as numbers get tight????
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I don't think he has a history of doing it. Hasn't needed to at his other stops.

At UT, he could have to do it. Probably not this year with the ability to sign 31.

He also isn't afraid to get guys to grayshirt.

But I am sure he will evaluate the class in Q4 and if he had to start making some tough decisions he would.

Just my opinion. (Gruden didn't tell me to say anything).
 
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vol2013 said:
Disagree, those stats do show that that he has a tendency to get and take early commitments relative to his competition. In 2011 for example he had double digit commits by the end of the summer while most of the rest of the conference got most of their commitments from December on.
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This is what I am looking for. Jones has always been an aggressive recruiter taking commitments early. Does he stick with all those or make changes?

Sure it's different level recruits but the philosophy will stay close to the same IMO.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
I don't think he has a history of doing it. Hasn't needed to at his other stops.

At UT, he could have to do it. Probably not this year with the ability to sign 31.

He also isn't afraid to get guys to grayshirt.

But I am sure he will evaluate the class in Q4 and if he had to start making some tough decisions he would.

Just my opinion. (Gruden didn't tell me to say anything).
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This post says what OP needs to hear. thread is complete
 
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vol2013 said:
Disagree, those stats do show that that he has a tendency to get and take early commitments relative to his competition. In 2011 for example he had double digit commits by the end of the summer while most of the rest of the conference got most of their commitments from December on.
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Referring to now is what i am speaking of from may 3rd back the highest he ever had was 6 commits
 
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BruinVol said:
This is what I am looking for. Jones has always been an aggressive recruiter taking commitments early. Does he stick with all those or make changes?

Sure it's different level recruits but the philosophy will stay close to the same IMO.
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From the best I can tell from using way back machine it appears he cuts about 2 loose per year around December
 
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SpringBokVol said:
I don't think he has a history of doing it. Hasn't needed to at his other stops.

At UT, he could have to do it. Probably not this year with the ability to sign 31.

He also isn't afraid to get guys to grayshirt.

But I am sure he will evaluate the class in Q4 and if he had to start making some tough decisions he would.

Just my opinion. (Gruden didn't tell me to say anything).
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how many times a day does someone take a shot at you for the Gruden mishap?
 
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