Jones biggest mistake was

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led0321 said:
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X100..

N for not pulling him after TO num 2.. No way u allow him another chance n that game.

Plus that game showed me butch isn't anything special n then candy happened n bad taste about coach n staff....

So n my mind rec is the only thing they r doing at a high level at this point..

N no way he gets more than 3 years to get us to 10 or 11 wins.. If he is at 8 wins in yr 3 then he is john majors 2.0
 
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Other_Guy said:
Not trying to retain Chaney. I know I know, Jake is his guy in his system. That's fine. However, I think in this situation you stick with what's working and keep the good coaches unless you have an amazing one already on your staff. I believe Worley would have played amazingly better and actually let this team to a 7-5 record.

You may think "It won't work in the long run its not his style". Ok, what happens if Butch had to fire Jake and get a new guy? I may be completely wrong about this but I think keeping Chaney pays off more.

Just like Kiffin. Monte is great and all, but there is NO freaking way you get rid of Chavis. Dools might still be the coach and winning a SEC champ game this year if he would have kept him too... (not sure if I'm being serious or not)

Am I completey wrong here?
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Yes
 
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1972 Grad said:
3) Program with unrealistic, impatient fan base....Check!
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Umm, can you name me another team with 3 straight losing seasons who get ~90K to show up for their games each week? Can you name me another major college program where 76% of fans polled would declare a 5-7 season a job well done, as fans did here? Can you name me another major program who would give Derek Dooley more than 3 straight losing seasons to prove he can't coach? Who would give him a contract extension with a huge buyout after his first losing season?

Don't give me this "unrealistic, impatient" nonsense. This place is heaven for bad coaches.
 
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92volalum said:
X100..

N for not pulling him after TO num 2.. No way u allow him another chance n that game.

Plus that game showed me butch isn't anything special n then candy happened n bad taste about coach n staff....

So n my mind rec is the only thing they r doing at a high level at this point..

N no way he gets more than 3 years to get us to 10 or 11 wins.. If he is at 8 wins in yr 3 then he is john majors 2.0
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Confused about the Johnny Majors part...didn't it take Majors 10 years to start winning in double digits?
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92volalum said:
X100..

N for not pulling him after TO num 2.. No way u allow him another chance n that game.

Plus that game showed me butch isn't anything special n then candy happened n bad taste about coach n staff....

So n my mind rec is the only thing they r doing at a high level at this point..

N no way he gets more than 3 years to get us to 10 or 11 wins.. If he is at 8 wins in yr 3 then he is john majors 2.0
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Articulation isn't your strong suit, is it? History either apparently.
 
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OrangeBlood4life said:
Well. Id be willing to bet if you asked 100 people which loss is more embarrassing. Tenn losing to florida. Or florida losing to georgia southern. 90 of them would say georgia southern. The ones that didnt would be gator fans
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That's okay, in all honesty I'd be willing to bet both UGA and Florida fans had wished they hadn't played UT this last season. I mean they may have won the games but considering the amount of key injuries it really hurt their seasons.

If I am a Florida fan I'd be more worried about Miami and FSU's recruiting in state and their neanderthal head coach.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
The question is if our fans will even allow him enough time to get things turned around.
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Some of our "fans" have already said because CBJ did not do what Malzahan did the he is not a good coach. More than likely if CBJ does not win a bowl game this season, people will be calling for his head. Some "fans" doesn't know what rebuilding means.
 
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Other_Guy said:
Not trying to retain Chaney. I know I know, Jake is his guy in his system. That's fine. However, I think in this situation you stick with what's working and keep the good coaches unless you have an amazing one already on your staff. I believe Worley would have played amazingly better and actually let this team to a 7-5 record.

You may think "It won't work in the long run its not his style". Ok, what happens if Butch had to fire Jake and get a new guy? I may be completely wrong about this but I think keeping Chaney pays off more.

Just like Kiffin. Monte is great and all, but there is NO freaking way you get rid of Chavis. Dools might still be the coach and winning a SEC champ game this year if he would have kept him too... (not sure if I'm being serious or not)

Am I completey wrong here?
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What was working? How was what Chaney doing working?
 
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92volalum said:
X100..

N for not pulling him after TO num 2.. No way u allow him another chance n that game.

Plus that game showed me butch isn't anything special n then candy happened n bad taste about coach n staff....

So n my mind rec is the only thing they r doing at a high level at this point..

N no way he gets more than 3 years to get us to 10 or 11 wins.. If he is at 8 wins in yr 3 then he is john majors 2.0
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This gave me a migraine.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
As many posters on here were crying for due to Worley's sky high and turf killer passes.
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So, Butch kept him in until he completely melted down to the point that the game was lost as well as any chance of this fanbase supporting the kid?

Yep, that will teach us.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Who is calling for his head at this time?
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http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/209959-who-wants-fire-butch.html

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99gator said:
The only, and I mean literally only, fun part of going 4-8 is knowing that you all can only go with it so far before having to deal with the fact that Tennessee is one of the four.
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And then we can ask u how many times UT has ever had a record that bad.. And uf was the luckiest team we played this yr because it just so happened to be Petermans first start.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Some of our "fans" have already said because CBJ did not do what Malzahan did the he is not a good coach. More than likely if CBJ does not win a bowl game this season, people will be calling for his head. Some "fans" doesn't know what rebuilding means.
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Exactly!
Fans forget or don't know that Auburn was stacked with talent ripe for the coaching when we didn't have the talent or coaches.
Plus, fans don't realize the talent Auburn has....was brought to Auburn by Thig.....which CBJ hired.
CBJ is a home run hire for us....
even though some in game decisions didn't make sense to me.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Some of our "fans" have already said because CBJ did not do what Malzahan did the he is not a good coach. More than likely if CBJ does not win a bowl game this season, people will be calling for his head. Some "fans" doesn't know what rebuilding means.
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So, when rebuilding, how many years should we allow before we set goals that are related to the bottom line? Five years? Seven years? If you think it is unfair to set a goal for wins in the first year of a rebuild then you completely disagree with the coaching staff which you defend. Was Butch irrational setting a goal of six wins and bowl in year one? If you call those of us that expected that goal to be met stupid, then you may as well call Butch stupid. I am sure that all of this will be conveniently ignored and swept under the rug. That's the great thing about not having goals, without them you cannot fail.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
So, Butch kept him in until he completely melted down to the point that the game was lost as well as any chance of this fanbase supporting the kid?

Yep, that will teach us.
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Keeping him in to long...yeah he did...but what message does it send to the team. He wants to believe in the kid. He wants to try to give the kid a chance. He wants recruits to know I'll put you in and I will give you your moment and try to earn it. That is what I believe he was trying to do....and the QB position is one that takes more than a couple possessions to do so.

Secondly....I was stating that folks on here are quick to say he shouldn't start Worley and start Peterman after the lack of production from the 1st few games. I read it on here and heard on talk radio all up to the Florida game.

And I honestly think he kept him in the game as long as he did just to piss Doyle Hargraves off....just to simply make you more miserable than you already are.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/209959-who-wants-fire-butch.html

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So, that small percentage will be enough to run Butch out on a rail?
Must be some pretty powerful folks there to overturn the vast majority willing to give him 3-5.
By the way, where did this accused negavol cast his vote?
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Keeping him in to long...yeah he did...but what message does it send to the team. He wants to believe in the kid. He wants to try to give the kid a chance. He wants recruits to know I'll put you in and I will give you your moment and try to earn it. That is what I believe he was trying to do....and the QB position is one that takes more than a couple possessions to do so.

Secondly....I was stating that folks on here are quick to say he shouldn't start Worley and start Peterman after the lack of production from the 1st few games. I read it on here and heard on talk radio all up to the Florida game.

And I honestly think he kept him in the game as long as he did just to piss Doyle Hargraves off....just to simply make you more miserable than you already are.
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I am not at all miserable. I thoroughly enjoy these debates. You have your viewpoint and I have mine. It's fun to debate these differences, but some seem to take it personally.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Who is calling for his head at this time?

So, that small percentage will be enough to run Butch out on a rail?
Must be some pretty powerful folks there to overturn the vast majority willing to give him 3-5.
By the way, where did this accused negavol cast his vote?
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It was your poll you started....and you asked who is calling for his head at this time. Those were the ones.

BTW...aren't you simply a self proclaimed CBJ negaVol...or do you just act like one?
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
So, when rebuilding, how many years should we allow before we set goals that are related to the bottom line? Five years? Seven years? If you think it is unfair to set a goal for wins in the first year of a rebuild then you completely disagree with the coaching staff which you defend. Was Butch irrational setting a goal of six wins and bowl in year one? If you call those of us that expected that goal to be met stupid, then you may as well call Butch stupid. I am sure that all of this will be conveniently ignored and swept under the rug. That's the great thing about not having goals, without them you cannot fail.
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Did you even happen to stumble across what our schedule was like last season? what about next season?
How would you have coached? What plays would you have called when and in which game? Which play would have made our WR's catch passes? Which plays CBJ could have called that made our players FASTER?
 
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