Jonathan Kongbo was a big loss last season ... tearing up

[Behr]

My guess is the only like he would get would be from someone who had neglected to read his screen name. I know I very seldom notice the screen name before I reply to anyone.

There are several here that like his opinions, one actually thinks he's one of the best posters on VN.

I don't get it, but I also don't care as much as it seems. Somebody has to give them some crap. Pretty sure it one of the Commandments.

 

[Pepe]

There are several here that like his opinions, one actually thinks he's one of the best posters on VN.

I don't get it, but I also don't care as much as it seems. Somebody has to give them some crap. Pretty sure it one of the Commandments.

That someone is probably someone that I have on ignore

 

[KBVol]

His knee vs auburn really hurt us the rest of the year. Didn’t realize how thin and lack of anyone to replace him til he was gone. I post this to recognize the young man for how under appreciated he may Been last year.

Quite the stretch here. We certainly couldn’t afford to lose the player/body/depth, but, with all due respect to him, losing him didn’t mean a change in the outcome of any game before or after his injury. In the 5+ games he played in last year, he had 5 solo tackles, no tackles for loss and no sacks....as a rush OLB.

 

[KBVol]

There are several here that like his opinions, one actually thinks he's one of the best posters on VN.

I don't get it, but I also don't care as much as it seems. Somebody has to give them some crap. Pretty sure it one of the Commandments.

He absolutely is one of the best posters on VN, makes more sense than 90% of the others on this site.....and the post you guys are referring to proves it yet again. Losing Kongbo only meant we had one fewer subpar SEC player who rarely, if ever, produced anything for our defense, to put on the field. That’s the truth, and it’s sad that it takes a Gator fan to tell on a Vol website.

 

[Behr]

He absolutely is one of the best posters on VN, makes more sense than 90% of the others on this site.....and the post you guys are referring to proves it yet again. Losing Kongbo only meant we had one fewer subpar SEC player who rarely, if ever, produced anything for our defense, to put on the field. That’s the truth, and it’s sad that it takes a Gator fan to tell on a Vol website.

Oh for Pete's sake. What's sad is how you take everything so seriously and bish constantly about everyfockingthing. Good grief.

Who gives a chit if somebody felt like the team you berate on a daily basis might have done better with Kongbo? My God, you act like its the end of the damn world. A couple of VOL fans even disagreed but The Almighty Gator had to teach everybody something.

Its the off season and it just got started. There are going to be more threads like this and I look forward to it.

 

[Vol_Lord_1990]

He didn’t have an impact. I said it. The tape don’t lie.

Wish him a speedy recovery and nothing but the best

Agree

 

[BreatheUT]

We missed his size for sure. He played a level above the backups we had to play afterwards.

 

[KBVol]

Oh for Pete's sake. What's sad is how you take everything so seriously and bish constantly about everyfockingthing. Good grief.

Who gives a chit if somebody felt like the team you berate on a daily basis might have done better with Kongbo? My God, you act like its the end of the damn world. A couple of VOL fans even disagreed but The Almighty Gator had to teach everybody something.

Its the off season and it just got started. There are going to be more threads like this and I look forward to it.

Living in your head 24/7 on here.....from thread to thread to thread. I think you may love me. Lol.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

Why in the heck would a Gator comment in thread like this?

Salmonella poisoning.

 

[Behr]

Living in your head 24/7 on here.....from thread to thread to thread. I think you may love me. Lol.

I do, I love everybody, but I don't love you as much as you love them stank ass gators. Lol.

Haha, you just preached to me in another thread about being honest and calling a space a spade.

 

[pharmDvol11]

Well, he does pass the eye test....but you do remember what our 'Ol Ball Coach--PF--used to say: "LOOKS like Tarzan but PLAYS like JANE". That's KONGBO!

You’re wrong. If Justin Coleman, imo one of the worst cover DBs in UT history, can make an active NFL roster (ending up starting for the Patriots no less) then anybody (I mean ANYBODY) can. If that type of logic can’t twist reality then nothing can.

 

[Vol_Lord_1990]

You’re wrong. If Justin Coleman, imo one of the worst cover DBs in UT history, can make an active NFL roster (ending up starting for the Patriots no less) then anybody (I mean ANYBODY) can. If that type of logic can’t twist reality then nothing can.

Justin Coleman had top results at the combine and is a physically gifted athlete. He played under one of the best defensive coaches in NFL history. That is why he was successful in the NFL. His coaching here was dog ****.

 

[CAVPUT]

Kongbo is one of those guys that despite his production (or rather lack thereof), NFL teams will give him a chance. He’s loaded with athleticism and he passes the eye test. Here’s hoping he can carve out a professional career.

Had to chuckle when I read your post. No offense to you tho. It just reminded me of the hype surrounding the next "beast". Unstoppable. A one man defense. Hell, you'd have thought we'd found the holy grail of defenders....a combination of Doug Atkins, Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor all rolled into one.

Wish him well, but for me, he'll be yet another example of why I don't get too worked up over juco guys....even if they are 5 stars. There's a reason...usually more than one...they're in juco. He's not quite at the Brian Darden level as he did contribute, but I think it's fair to say his career didn't go the way so many anticipated when he was signed.

 

[KBVol]

I do, I love everybody, but I don't love you as much as you love them stank ass gators. Lol.

Haha, you just preached to me in another thread about being honest and calling a space a spade.

I despise Florida....despise em. Why do you think I bitch and complain about losing to those a***oles year after year, decade after decade? It’s frustrating beyond anything I’ve experienced in my 45 year “fan life”.

If 99 and Lawrence Wright were trolls/arrogant guys coming on here talking smack, I’d go in on them harder than 98% of this board does D4H, and rightly so. But, imho, those guys are logical, fair and respectful....and right most of the time. Again, jmho.

 

[Behr]

I despise Florida....despise em. Why do you think I bitch and complain about losing to those a***oles year after year, decade after decade? It’s frustrating beyond anything I’ve experienced in my 45 year “fan life”.

If 99 and Lawrence Wright were trolls/arrogant guys coming on here talking smack, I’d go in on them harder than 98% of this board does D4H, and rightly so. But, imho, those guys are logical, fair and respectful....and right most of the time. Again, jmho.

I guess everybody just has their own way to deal with the Gator hate. Yours is weird.

99 is just good at fooling you with his backhanded compliments. He knows what he's doing. Its funny, just because we suck and he comes over here and tells us we suck, you praise him for being logical and one of our best posters. Lol, Go Gata.


Lawrence is different and it ain't even close.

 

[Volador]

Sorry, but with a name like KONGBO, one would think he isn't allowed to get injured. We need players to live up to their names, darn it!

 

[MikeVol44]

You’re wrong. If Justin Coleman, imo one of the worst cover DBs in UT history, can make an active NFL roster (ending up starting for the Patriots no less) then anybody (I mean ANYBODY) can. If that type of logic can’t twist reality then nothing can.

Well, the PREMISE of your statement is incorrect.

Coleman was a physical player who could support the run more than anything else. He was a Safety instead of a CB. UT just put him on an island too much in man--which was stupid. His worst game was the USCe when he couldn't cover Williams....but Dobbs pulled that game out for us.

Coleman wasn't one of the worst DBs we've ever had. He applied himself in the weight room while here, possessed some great quickness and agility, and did very well at the NFL Combine.
However, he remained UNDRAFTED and signed with the Vikings, but failed to make their team. He ENDED up on the Patriots practice squad where he got a chance to play because of injuries to 2 of New England's starting DBs. He made the most of the time he had, and got to the Super Bowl. But he's NEVER been that great in the NFL.

KONGBO is playing a completely different position and has been OUTMATCHED from the beginning. He's TOO SMALL to play DT in the NFL, and he's TOO SLOW to play DE or OLB in the NFL.
He can't take on and get off of blockers, can't rush the passer, has no quickness, and can't run. He won't be drafted, and I don't think he will make it thru training camp for anyone.
As I said before, he LOOKS like Tarzan, but plays like Jane.

Your comments only serve to show just a total lack of understanding of the differences in the positions, and a total failure in being able to accurately evaluate performance.

Time will tell....

 

[pharmDvol11]

Well, the PREMISE of your statement is incorrect.

Coleman was a physical player who could support the run more than anything else. He was a Safety instead of a CB. UT just put him on an island too much in man--which was stupid. His worst game was the USCe when he couldn't cover Williams....but Dobbs pulled that game out for us.

Coleman wasn't one of the worst DBs we've ever had. He applied himself in the weight room while here, possessed some great quickness and agility, and did very well at the NFL Combine.
However, he remained UNDRAFTED and signed with the Vikings, but failed to make their team. He ENDED up on the Patriots practice squad where he got a chance to play because of injuries to 2 of New England's starting DBs. He made the most of the time he had, and got to the Super Bowl. But he's NEVER been that great in the NFL.

KONGBO is playing a completely different position and has been OUTMATCHED from the beginning. He's TOO SMALL to play DT in the NFL, and he's TOO SLOW to play DE or OLB in the NFL.
He can't take on and get off of blockers, can't rush the passer, has no quickness, and can't run. He won't be drafted, and I don't think he will make it thru training camp for anyone.
As I said before, he LOOKS like Tarzan, but plays like Jane.

Your comments only serve to show just a total lack of understanding of the differences in the positions, and a total failure in being able to accurately evaluate performance.

Time will tell....

Wow there’s so much to unpack... First, your absolutely hatred of ppl disagreeing with you and how angry it made you to try to defend your argument. But we don’t have time to go in to that and, personally, I don’t care at this point.

Secondly, your entire argument completely overlooks many well established facts. First of them being the schemes that Kongbo played in since he’s been here. Are you going to come to the defense of the coaching staffs that he was learning from? Secondly, is he the first undersized tweeter you’ve ever run across? I hate to tell you this but the entire NFL is overrun with players of his size that are these tweeners you talk about. And lastly how can I say this where you’ll understand: Justin Coleman was a CORNERBACK. Covering DBs is an IMPORTANT role. MAYBE if I capitalize EVERY other WORD you’ll BE able TO get IT! And seriously please tell me CB who’s contributed to more highlight films? The rest of your statements concerning him could literally apply to ANYBODY including KONGBO. Perhaps with COACHING a player like KONGBO can FLOURISH.

But at the end of the day I don’t have any stock in his success other than wanting to see him succeed. If it makes you feel better, I hope you are right and he doesn’t get a chance. Maybe then you’ll get you PhD in internet college football analysis.

 

[MustafaRasta]

But but he's a gator...

Jesus you people are terrible.

Colton Jumper had more sacks his Sr year than Kongbo did in his 23 games. (10.5 to 3.5 AND Jumper finished with 15 total) He also had more TFL in one season than Kongbo did total(doubling him up in that category)

Kongbo had one more INT(2 to 1) but Jumper had one more Forced fumble(1 to 0)

Colton Jumper a 6'2 220 pound LB 2* walk on.

Kongbo 4* #1 Juco 6'5 254 pound beast.

Everyone on here killed Jumper every week for being a stiff bum yet he doubled the production of the guy everyone is cryin over..

 

[05_never_again]

Kongbo was a largely anonymous player until right before he got hurt - he was making some things happen and being disruptive in that Auburn game.

Given how highly he was recruited, Kongbo appears to be a huge underachiever.

 

[MikeVol44]

Wow there’s so much to unpack... First, your absolutely hatred of ppl disagreeing with you and how angry it made you to try to defend your argument. But we don’t have time to go in to that and, personally, I don’t care at this point.

Secondly, your entire argument completely overlooks many well established facts. First of them being the schemes that Kongbo played in since he’s been here. Are you going to come to the defense of the coaching staffs that he was learning from? Secondly, is he the first undersized tweeter you’ve ever run across? I hate to tell you this but the entire NFL is overrun with players of his size that are these tweeners you talk about. And lastly how can I say this where you’ll understand: Justin Coleman was a CORNERBACK. Covering DBs is an IMPORTANT role. MAYBE if I capitalize EVERY other WORD you’ll BE able TO get IT! And seriously please tell me CB who’s contributed to more highlight films? The rest of your statements concerning him could literally apply to ANYBODY including KONGBO. Perhaps with COACHING a player like KONGBO can FLOURISH.

But at the end of the day I don’t have any stock in his success other than wanting to see him succeed. If it makes you feel better, I hope you are right and he doesn’t get a chance. Maybe then you’ll get you PhD in internet college football analysis.

Evidently, my comments about Kongbo playing like Jane struck a nerve in your defective synapses and you obviously felt the need to tell me that I was wrong. Remember, I didn't ask for your opinion. I certainly can take it when people tell me that I'm wrong when they present LOGICAL and FACTUAL information. You did neither...and I called you on our BS. And now you can't take it--typical snowflake. And Coleman played most of his career as the Nickel DB.....for your information, the Nickel is basically a 3rd SAFETY....

Most on this board AGREE that Kongbo has EXTREMELY under-performed ever since he has been a Vol. Why can't you just acknowledge those facts? The film of his performances just doesn't lie. Go back and actually watch some of it-- "the big eye just don't lie!"

Furthermore--your acknowledgement of Coleman's success in the NFL should've been enough evidence to make you reconsider your prior opinion of him and to admit that you were WRONG in your assessment about his ability to play DB--but that's something you snowflake millennials just cannot do!

None of you are EVER wrong about anything....and you want to discuss everything ad nauseam in order to find a way to camouflage the fact that you're wrong. One big group discussion where everybody can share their own opinion and NO ONE is ever exposed for being wrong in their thinking. That's YOUR problem, NOT MINE!

Your assessment of Kongbo is the same--WRONG. You don't have a damned clue about how to evaluate his play in order to understand exactly WHY he doesn't have the talent to make it in the NFL. And then you do what all educated snowflake millennials do and BLAME someone else--his coaches. That's just weak!

Kongbo is weak with his hands, he is slow to recognize how the OL is attacking him, he gets himself "caved inside" too much in the run game, he doesn't demonstrate any ability to play with leverage, he cannot shed blocks, etc...etc...etc... It's all there on the films if you actually knew what you were looking at! And he's been tried now at several position on the DL----DT, DE, and OLB in a 3-4. He just couldn't get it done at any position in any scheme.

And for the record, I was extremely wrong in my assessment of KMac. I thought he'd be a beast in the SEC at DT based on watching his 1 on 1s in all of those all-star camps before he got to UT. And the reason why was his LOWER BODY and how he used his hands.

Please just put me on ignore. It will be a good thing to preserve your mental health just in case you've run out of "mental health" recovery days at work.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Did anyone else think the OP was confessing to getting choked up about losing Kongbo at first? Based on the thread title?

 

[Jaws]

What a lot of folks failed to realize is that he could set the edge on run defense and after he went down we didn't have anyone physical enough to do that job. That role is not something pay attention to until it can't be done.

I thought he was awful when healthy. Slow, lumbering and unathletic. Always thought he’d be a better player on the interior D-Line, couldn’t understand the move to LB.

 

[Jaws]

I guess everybody just has their own way to deal with the Gator hate. Yours is weird.

99 is just good at fooling you with his backhanded compliments. He knows what he's doing. Its funny, just because we suck and he comes over here and tells us we suck, you praise him for being logical and one of our best posters. Lol, Go Gata.


Lawrence is different and it ain't even close.

Behr, you can be honest and tell everyone I’m your favorite Gator poster. I don’t mind.

 

[Behr]

Behr, you can be honest and tell everyone I’m your favorite Gator poster. I don’t mind.

Well Gums, you are my 2nd favorite closet Vol fan.