Jonathan Crompton... (merged)

#252
#252
It's hard for me to understand why the coaching staff insists that JC gives us the best chance to win.
Apparently JC plays well during the weekly practice sessions but obviously can't carry it to the field on Saturdays. The kid reminds me a lot of AJ Suggs from years ago. Lots of physical talent but just unable to perform on game day. Bray can't get here fast enough for me. However, I'm still hoping for a 6-6 or 7-5 season and a bowl game ... Go Vols !
 
#253
#253
70% of the people on this thread could have completed the post pass to G. Jones that turned into 8s first int. So awful.
 
#254
#254
Lord Vader said:
I wonder if Jones ran the wrong route when he came deep across the middle deep wide open and Crompton chucked the friggin thing 15 yards over his head for an INT?
Click to expand...

I have no doubt in my mind Crompton thinks something of the sort.

Crompton: "Oh, you can't jump 7 feet in the air to catch the ball, Gerald? Well I wish I had known! Why didn't you tell me!?"
Click to expand...

He's never slow to lay the blame elsewhere. Not only is he bad, but he thinks he's the best player on the field.
 
#255
#255
That has to be it Lord Vadar!
We just cant have a ginger as our QB. Thats about as reasonable of an argument anyone has had tonite.
One poster said the CLK wants to avoid a QB merry go round...Well of course he does!!!..but sticking with Crompton at the expense of the rest of the team?
 
#256
#256
VolsPreacher said:
How can you blame Kiffin for 3 interceptions. The only mistake Kiffin made is not benching Crompton on his 2nd pick. He is a joke. The worst QB the Vols have ever have.
Click to expand...

Correction: The mistake Kiffin made was giving this headcase the starting QB job! The UF game is gonna look like the Alamo - and we ain't gonna be the Mexicans!
 
#257
#257
Gen.Neyland said:
Correction: The mistake Kiffin made was giving this headcase the starting QB job! The UF game is gonna look like the Alamo - and we ain't gonna be the Mexicans!
Click to expand...

But do you remember what happened after the Alamo?

Revenge my friend, REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

V,B
 
#258
#258
Three years ago everybody wanted Crompton instead of Ainge. He had different receivers and looked like the star of the future. Last year he had basically the same recievers as today(Jones and Moore)and looked like anything but a QB with a clue. So Clawson had a scheme was the excuse and no one could understand and we played musical chair qb for a season.
Clawson goes to Bowling Green and has started off with some success. (So maybe wasn't him after all.)
We open up with WK, not a good team but still look good dismantling them with Crompton, and a group of freshman recievers. Timing was excellent, good hands, crisp passes and everybody was excited.
Week two, we get the same two reciecers back from last year and its dejavu. Sorry guys, I think the receivers don't have a clue. No, Crompton wasn't at his best but there are 11 players on the field and they all have to do their job and be on the same page and I don't think Moore and Jones are even in the same book.
 
#259
#259
78vol said:
Three years ago everybody wanted Crompton instead of Ainge. He had different receivers and looked like the star of the future. Last year he had basically the same recievers as today(Jones and Moore)and looked like anything but a QB with a clue. So Clawson had a scheme was the excuse and no one could understand and we played musical chair qb for a season.
Clawson goes to Bowling Green and has started off with some success. (So maybe wasn't him after all.)
We open up with WK, not a good team but still look good dismantling them with Crompton, and a group of freshman recievers. Timing was excellent, good hands, crisp passes and everybody was excited.
Week two, we get the same two reciecers back from last year and its dejavu. Sorry guys, I think the receivers don't have a clue. No, Crompton wasn't at his best but there are 11 players on the field and they all have to do their job and be on the same page and I don't think Moore and Jones are even in the same book.
Click to expand...

Moore and Jones can't help that Crompton threw more to the other team.
 
#260
#260
I am new to the forum, but I agree with most of you. Lets bench Crompton. Nobody cares about his play time.All we care about is a winning season. GO VOLS!!
 
#261
#261
I pin this loss solely on Crompton. Four turnovers is simply inexcusable! Truthfully, InCrompetent should have had 5 INTS (the dropped one in the endzone and the other called back for the offsides penalty), amounting to a whopping 6 turnover potential. We could have started a dancing circus monkey and won this game--anyone but Crompton.

The Defense played spectacular most of the day save for the opening drive. It's difficult to keep the other team out of field goal range when they start their drives at midfield or better due to turnovers.

I felt the playcalling by Kiffin wasn't bad. Execution, however, was beyond poor. My only questionable call was the 4th down on the goal line, where I felt maybe a change-up play would have worked better than another straight ahead run.

Hardesty and Brown worked their tales off without much help from the passing game or the O-line.

To have even a prayer against Florida we need to bench Crompton immediately. His play alone cost us this game.
 
#263
#263
Dear Jon, Why don't you try a Greg Paulus in reverse and transfer to Syracuse and see if you can make the BB team there?:good!:
 
#264
#264
I really gave JC the benefit of the doubt that he could succeed in this offense, but I really have to believe that he is a liability any time he drops back to pass at this point. A team cannot succeed if its leader is its greatest liability.

The fumbled snap was not his fault, but the interceptions were. Any QB will throw interceptions and 1 a game should be somewhat expected, but he just has an uncanny ability to throw to the other team. Has he been checked for color-blindness?

It will be interesting to see what comes down from this hill this week...........
 
#265
#265
Newbie here so don't crucify me, but here's the way I see it. Having watched Crompton last year, I was for sure that Stephen's would get the start this year. I know the coaches like to say the job is up for grabs until they name a starter, but logic has got to come into play somewhere. Stephens would have been in my opinion the logical pick in order to get some experience under his belt. Not that I would expect a magical season from the kid, but it was obvious to me after last season the Crompton didn't have what it takes to lead this team to an SEC Championship, much less National title. It really would have been valuble in the sense that perhaps Stephens could grow throughout the season and perhaps compete for the SEC next year. I really didn't expect us to compete this season, new coach, young kids and all, but I feel this falls on Kilffin. Crompton made the reads, but was slow to react. He was to conservative in his decisions to make the pass ultimately resulting in the INT's. He tried to be a leader late in the third and I commend him for that, but to be a leader on the field you have to be decisive and react. You can't delay and second guess. Basically, you can be a straight "A" smart a**, but what good are you if you don't speak up until the last minute. The chance to change destiny has passed you by and if this was NASA god forbid, APOLLO 13 wouldn't have made it home. It might not be Stephens, it might not be Coleman, but we won't know until we see them on the field, put into the position to make that split second decision. I expect a loss next week against Florida, yet I think to lose to S.Carolina and S. Spurrier would be more humiliating. Lets just hope L. Kilffin learns a lesson from this. Jason Garrett (Offensive Coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys) was never the impressive QB he was expected to be, but he turned out to be a hell of an "Offensive Coordinator". If Crompton came so prepared and so smart, then maybe that's his roll on this team. He can still contribute to the team, I just don't think it will be on the field.
 
#266
#266
knoxvillan said:
all im saying is everyone acts like we were gonna go undefeated because we beat wku and it makes me sick to see people throwing the team under the bus because we lost a game that is whats pathetic my friend
Click to expand...


See that is where you are off the mark ...off the mark Like a crompton pass over the middle .

This team is very good , the defense appears to be exceptional . You have talented running backs , good young players , good coaching ...and NO qb .

I think somebody on here said that if Central Michigan had loaned us their QB for this game we would have won by 21 points.

I agree with that 100% . The D held the whole game , despite being on the field forever and in some really bad field positions. The runnings backs and offensive line did a reasonable job ..considering they were up against a talented D front and were facing 8 in the box because nobody respected Cromptons ability ( or inability) .

They find a QB that can manage the game and complete passes , with the defense they have ...you should expect them to compete for championships .

I was one of those that felt like he could be salvaged ...but I am done now . He should hold a clipboard from here on out . Stephens may make some mistakes , but we could at least hope for weekly improvement . Crompton is what he is and will be till the finish .
 
#267
#267
knoxvillan said:
Whats pathetic is people throwing the team under the bus after one game, cmon everyone acts like were supposed to go undefeated.
Click to expand...

I don't think anyone expected us to go undefeated. I myself didn't see us winning more than 8 games at best. I do, however expect our quarterback to play like he belongs here. And I do expect to beat a team with a freshmen offensive line and a freshman quarterback playing his first road game. Anybody on here criticizing the team is not "throwing the team under the bus," they're merely voicing their displeasure about the teams performance. Just because you don't like the way the game went and explain why (some more eloquently then others) that is not throwing the team under the bus. We all want the team to win. Does that mean we expect the team to win every single game, No. Clearly we have a lot of work to do and I will support the team every step of the way. But when they play like they did today, I'm not going to sit here and say "oh well I guess we just didn't have it today" and be happy about it.
 
#268
#268
I think Kiffin let Crompton dig his own grave. Now, after watching film there will be no questions when he passes the starting job to Nick Stephens next week. Instead of pulling him he let him get his shot at redemption and he failed. My Dad went to the same high school as Crompton and my family is from Waynesville, NC. They all feel the same way that we do!
 
#269
#269
With a mediocre QB, we would have won this game with ease. Crompton is a great athlete and can be a great QB. But mentally, he's not fit to compete in the SEC. He is just not effective at handling stressful situations... and all the talent in the world wouldn't help him because of this.

We've all seen enough. Sit him down.
 
#270
#270
SWIL said:
With a mediocre QB, we would have won this game with ease. Crompton is a great athlete and can be a great QB. But mentally, he's not fit to compete in the SEC. He is just not effective at handling stressful situations... and all the talent in the world wouldn't help him because of this.

We've all seen enough. Sit him down.
Click to expand...

So true. I don't doubt that Jon has the ability, but in the end some dogs just won't hunt.
 
#271
#271
What can you say? I am disappointed in our qb and our young coach. Crompton simply can't play qb in the SEC. Kiffin should have benched him early because he lost the game. Our defense was exceptional but we kept putting them in precarious situations. The play calling on the last drive was not very good. UCLA stacked the line of scrimmage all day, especially the middle, because they knew Crompton couldn't beat them. I don't understand why UT ran up the middle. Kiffin will learn from this and hopefully he will bench Crompton after the Florida game. There is no point in destroying Stephens confidence in Gainsville. Let Crompton play his last game and say goodbye. Give Stephens a shot at Ohio and move on. Florida will be ugly because they will take away the run and JC will crumble again. He sucks plain and simple. UT should have picked a fan in the stadium to play qb and they would have been better.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#272
#272
this is my first post and im probably over 200 posts late, but i saw a post that said dont blame jc blame kiffin. kiffin didnt throw those passes. players were open, crompton just couldnt hit them. also you all can say put stephens in, but hes no better than crompton. they both sucked ass last year so stephens isnt going to take us to some promised land. we are just dealing with average players that were recruited by the previous staff. our defense can only do so much. i wanted to see some heart out of the offense today but we were just out played. we just have to deal with the fact that until kiffin gets a full recruiting class through here we are average at best
 
#273
#273
Not necessarily! I agree with not letting Stephens getting devistated against Florida next week, but I don't think we are just "average" Do you really think NC could beat us, and hell, there ranked! Probably not after today, but they are right now. Establish the run and open up the short passing game. Keep the balance, screw the deep ball and we can keep this season on track. We still have a salvagable season. The SEC is out but a bowl is still obtainable. How the hell else are we going to attract recruits. Like you said, we have an awesome backfield and the defense is superb. If we can average 24 pts. a game, the defense will win games for us. Johnny Majors didn't recruit Monte Kilffin for nothing. He is an excellent Defensive Cooridinator and defense will win games for you. Look at the Chicago Bears from a few years back, what about the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. Were talking about "Trent Dilfer" and who ever the hell Denvers QB is now. Not the greatest in the world, but they still made it to the Super Bowl and Dilfer won his for christ sakes!!!!
 
#274
#274
I agree with the Stephens assessment as well, and it's not because I think we will be so much better off with him than with Crompton. I just believe that why should the team spend most of the year developing a senior's game? The only reason I would put Stephens is, is to hopefully have a fairly solid option to build on for next year. And honestly, if Stephens isn't up to snuff by mid season, than the coaches need to start knocking on some JUCOs to get a band aid in to fix the problem.

I'm very familiar with Chaney's offense, watched him for almost 7 years in West Lafayette, and honestly his offense does not need a Manning or an Elway (He did have a Breese tho). They did very well with a senior who did not end up with an illustrious Sunday career in their first season up there, and honestly I thought I saw that last week in Crompton. However, that is not the case, and I think they need to cut their losses and start trying to build for the future now. I'm not saying this year is already finished, but it is very clear that at best Crompton is going to need some games to develop. That's just not a wise option for someone who is done after this year, in my opinion.
 
#275
#275
also doesn't change these words from UCLA defensive back Rahim Moore, who picked off two of Crompton's passes: "On film, (Crompton) would look guys off. He didn't look anybody off today. Where he was looking was where he was throwing."................We cant win a game with him at QB.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top