Jonathan Crompton... (merged)

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I understand the concept of no blame game...but when its that obvious you just cant help it....take him out before the blame game gets worse...
 
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Joe23649 said:
UT has been on the verge of an offensive collapse for years. The talent just isn't there. Last year we hit rock bottom and this year we still don't have the talent. The most glaring problem of course is at quarterback. If the recruiters can't get a Division I level quarterback into this program, many head coaches may be losing their jobs.

How do we get the talent? Where the hell is it?
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Well, a TeeBow-esq QB is the future QB in the SEC. I want a mobile QB. The QB in the SEC hsd to be able to be rough and tumble like the rest of the league. No pot smokers who are afraid of getting hit.
 
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I so agree with this......Jon has proven again and again his inadequacy to play in the big game or any game for that matter...I can only imagine whats gonna happen to us when he plays in front of gators when he couldnt do anything playing in front of 100,000 vols....
 
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Two things about Crompton:

Make him use his brain and the game is yours (from opponent perspective)

After 5 years here he will have no meaningful wins on his resume. None. Zilch.
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One of those interceptions was due to throwing across his body to the wide side of the field. A long throw begging to be picked off. I know it was the 2nd option on the pass play, but seemed like a poor play call.

One of the other interceptions was an overthrow, about 3 or 4 yds over G Jones's head. That was on Crompton. If he'd get a little air under the ball and give the receivers time to adjust, he wants to throw everything on rope which is great if your accurate, he's not.
 
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volever said:
I so agree with this......Jon has proven again and again his inadequacy to play in the big game or any game for that matter...I can only imagine whats gonna happen to us when he plays in front of gators when he couldnt do anything playing in front of 100,000 vols....
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It will be a massacre.............

For the love of raisins, do not start Crapton. Put anyone else in that has guts. Carpton has no guts. I like our team though. For the love of peaches run the ball at all costs next week. It used to be the fumbles now it is INTs. I think our defense is capable of keeping us in most of our games but for the love of apples dont make it easy for them Crampton.:crazy:
 
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oklavol said:
One of those interceptions was due to throwing across his body to the wide side of the field. A long throw begging to be picked off. I know it was the 2nd option on the pass play, but seemed like a poor play call.

One of the other interceptions was an overthrow, about 3 or 4 yds over G Jones's head. That was on Crompton. If he'd get a little air under the ball and give the receivers time to adjust, he wants to throw everything on rope which is great if your accurate, he's not.
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Yeah, and he patted the receiver on the back on the sideline like it is was okay that the receiver couldn't jump a 10 ft vertical.:good!:
 
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I agree with everyone that Crompton is terrible and we will definitely not win against Florida, but he should still start. The reason he should start is because no matter who plays in the Swamp it will turn out badly for them. So I think you start Crompton and let him stare down his receivers and throw 7 interceptions. Then, Kiffin should start Stephens against Ohio at home. I think it could really mess with Nick Stephens confidence if Kiffin starts him in the swamp... IMO...

Billy Antrim said:
Excellent analysis. :hi:

It's not just one game, as some of you are saying in this thread. JC completely fell apart in the 2nd half, and then Kiffin consistently ran the ball because he didn't trust JC to throw it. What can Kiffin do now except bench JC and start NS?
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VolRock said:
Thanks Billy
Does anybody remember the "tight" competition for the starting spot at qb during the first two weeks of fall camp?
If the competition was as tight as the press led us to believe, how in the world can CLK not give Stephens the benefit of a doubt?
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Who the hell is billy?

two coaching staffs have now come to the same conclusion. We might not be any good at qb, but we are best with crompton
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ryreese said:
I agree with everyone that Crompton is terrible and we will definitely not win against Florida, but he should still start. The reason he should start is because no matter who plays in the Swamp it will turn out badly for them. So I think you start Crompton and let him stare down his receivers and throw 7 interceptions. Then, Kiffin should start Stephens against Ohio at home. I think it could really mess with Nick Stephens confidence if Kiffin starts him in the swamp... IMO...
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That's probably what will happen. He will start and throw 4 or 5 int's and get benched the rest of the year for Stephens.
 
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I just still can't believe so many people are saying Kiffin is a terrible coach after the SECOND DAMN GAME. Sometimes reading these grammatically nightmarish posts make me wonder if I'm living in the twilight zone. What the hell did any of you expect? We knew what we had in Crompton...it's WHY WE HAVE ALL BEEN DYING TO SIGN A QB!

Stop having such unrealistic expectations...find some patience, make sure you are using the terms "your" and "you're" correctly, and just see what happens. We've had one fantastic game (against an obviously lesser team), and one pretty frustrating game (against a fairly even team). Things will pan out. Chill with the faux outrage.
 
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I wish Crompton nothing but good, but not for the cost of our VOLS and our love to WIN...So he needs to stay in sideline and stop throwing, or if we decide to play him make him think like our WRs are opponent's safeties, maybe we will have a better chance then..If not I'd want the coaching staff to run the ball...just run it...
 
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ryreese said:
I agree with everyone that Crompton is terrible and we will definitely not win against Florida, but he should still start. The reason he should start is because no matter who plays in the Swamp it will turn out badly for them. So I think you start Crompton and let him stare down his receivers and throw 7 interceptions. Then, Kiffin should start Stephens against Ohio at home. I think it could really mess with Nick Stephens confidence if Kiffin starts him in the swamp... IMO...
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That's sounds logical. Rebuild with Stephens after we lose to Florida. Let him take his medicine. But I bet he will come out of the Florida game somehow anyway.
 
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the6chambers said:
I just still can't believe so many people are saying Kiffin is a terrible coach after the SECOND DAMN GAME. Sometimes reading these grammatically nightmarish posts make me wonder if I'm living in the twilight zone. What the hell did any of you expect? We knew what we had in Crompton...it's WHY WE HAVE ALL BEEN DYING TO SIGN A QB!

Stop having such unrealistic expectations...find some patience, make sure you are using the terms "your" and "you're" correctly, and just see what happens. We've had one fantastic game (against an obviously lesser team), and one pretty frustrating game (against a fairly even team). Things will pan out. Chill with the faux outrage.
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It is hard to blame a coach for a QB that was given to him. I still like Fulmer and Kiffin. You absolutely must have a play maker @ QB.
 
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Billy is the poster who complimented me on a previous post Cotton.

You may be right about 2 coaching staffs coming to the same conclusions about our best option at QB.

I'd just like to see Stephens prove he is less of a QB than Crompton on the field.
 
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Vanhalo said:
It is hard to blame a coach for a QB that was given to him. I still like Fulmer and Kiffin. You absolutely must have a play maker @ QB.
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The one thing I like about Kiffin is he seems to have balls. I like to see a coach go for it on 4th. No matter where they are on the field. Call me crazy but I like coaches and players with tenacity.
 
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VolRock said:
Billy is the poster who complimented me on a previous post Cotton.

You may be right about 2 coaching staffs coming to the same conclusions about our best option at QB.

I'd just like to see Stephens prove he is less of a QB than Crompton on the field.
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Stephens proved he is no betterlast year, and evidently again in spring and fall practices. Evidently Lamaison isn't the answeer right now either or he would be taking snaps. The offense is limited with Crompton under center, but everyone, me included, keep coming to the conclusion that the other guys aren't better.

We are weak at qb, and there isn't any magic answer at this point. You can't polish a turd.
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I ain't got the time to read all of these so too bad if I mention what others have...
1. Not only did he throw 3 INT's this game, he threw 2 vs. WKU, so 5 INT's in 2 games. And these were BAD interceptions. #2 is the reason
2. He throws with his head and shoulders in perfect alignment with the receiver. It seems like if the play goes to receiver X, then JC focuses on that receiver immediately after the snap. The defense is all over it, and this focus give them the jump they need to intercept.
3. As a Senior you'd think he'd have some ability to check-off, I've yet to see it. This could be CLK's fault, but I'd bet it's simply due to JC's elevator...which only goes to the 2nd floor.
4. To those that blame CLK for the depth chart: That's a reflection of PRACTICE! Don't we remember last year and Phil using that as the reason for starting JC?
FACT: Some players practice well, but play poorly. Some players practice poorly but when given the chance play well.
We all hoped that the high completion % and 5 TD's would give him confidence, but if it did, then he's missing something else.
Last bit...Until there is a viable passing game, the running game will suffer.
 
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only problem i had with coaching was the play call on the two.up the middle when they had their defense stacked.nobody was outside the tightend.and i don't think our line played tha great either.
 
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Crompton also just flat out didn't see a ton of wide open guys, including guys wide open in the endzone, all day. I feel for the guy, but he just wasnt cut out to be a D-1 quarterback.
 
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#223
We've been hearing for months how both QBs are much improved from last year.

Kiffin indicated competition in camp was extremely close.

I think that we can now close the book on Crompton with confidence. Time to see if Nick has or has not improved his mental game. Might as well, he is probably our starter next year. Nothing to lose - what positive play did Crompton make today? I do like the idea of letting Crapton take most of the humiliation next week.
 
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#224
Listen,i will go on record and say that Crompton is one of the worst Div 1 QB's i have ever seen play. Yet his athletic talent is there, he is just a head case, he freaks out in gameplay . He is the football equivilant of Rick Ankiel when he pitched for the Cards. No matter what the offense is going to be the riddle of this years football season, enjoy..
 
#225
#225
So lets see it play out in a game THIS year Cotton.
Everyone I know agrees that Stephens cant play any worse than Crompton did today.
 
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