John Chavis, Call your Office.

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#176
you cant allow a team to get a 4th and 8 russell had all day to pass. I think the vols still have tough games ahead of them you cant count out Vandy and Kentucky. I gotto admit if this team takes lets say two more losses is Fulmers job on the line?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
What part of replacing the entire front 7 from last year dont you understand bud? these guys we have now are the backups to those guys. Chavis has done alot considering the pool he had to draw from but can the guy i think not.
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chavis is nowhere near being the in the top10 DC"S in the nation. with the talent he has and for our team to look bad in almost every big game we play in come on you have to be serious. when is the last time we finished the year ranked in the top 10 in D. that being said he is going nowhere so it really doesn't matter.
 
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champyvol said:
chavis is nowhere near being the in the top10 DC"S in the nation. with the talent he has and for our team to look bad in almost every big game we play in come on you have to be serious. when is the last time we finished the year ranked in the top 10 in D. that being said he is going nowhere so it really doesn't matter.
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uh didnt we finish in the top 10 in d last year???:rtfm:
 
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#180
lack of depth on defense? John Tenuda does more with less than any coach in the country. BTW, try looking at what the NFL has to say about Tenuda - they would give their eye teeth to have Coach Tenuda. Chavis is good but he is not as good as Tenuda at Tech.
 
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chavis is great, but bottom line, he didn't have the team prepared for lsu's offensive scheme. it's one thing to call for his head, another thing to say he failed one game. i know we've had injuries to a team that already had depth issues, but the team wasn't prepared. They needed to make stops and quit trying to make the "big" play.
 
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SMVTT said:
lack of depth on defense? John Tenuda does more with less than any coach in the country. BTW, try looking at what the NFL has to say about Tenuda - they would give their eye teeth to have Coach Tenuda. Chavis is good but he is not as good as Tenuda at Tech.
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Does more with less? I guess giving up over 20 in 6 of their 9 games is doing something...

We do not have the personnel on the defense to keep teams from scoring this season. That is the bottom line. If you want to fire Chavis for his role in recruiting, then argue that. However, to argue that we have the talent on this year's defense to shut everyone down is ludicrous.
 
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champyvol said:
nope just speaking the unbiased truth, chavis is good not great.
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You should probably research the truth first, before making these ridiculous statements.

GT Tech has held the following teams below their season average for points scored: ND, UVA, Clemson (do notice that GT lost to ND and Clemson...) Not quite a resounding achievement.

UT has held the following teams below their season averages: Cal, Florida, Marshall, Memphis, Alabama, and LSU.
 
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volfanbill said:
chavis is great, but bottom line, he didn't have the team prepared for lsu's offensive scheme. it's one thing to call for his head, another thing to say he failed one game. i know we've had injuries to a team that already had depth issues, but the team wasn't prepared. They needed to make stops and quit trying to make the "big" play.
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i agree with that all except that it's not just one game. it is every big game at home against a top 10 sec opponet. it has been that way for along time.
 
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therealUT said:
You should probably research the truth first, before making these ridiculous statements.

GT Tech has held the following teams below their season average for points scored: ND, UVA, Clemson (do notice that GT lost to ND and Clemson...) Not quite a resounding achievement.

UT has held the following teams below their season averages: Cal, Florida, Marshall, Memphis, Alabama, and LSU.
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good point, but which D has the better players. i haven't seen GT in the top 10 in recruiting in some time. 435 yards were under there average, imagine what auburn's D must be like. it must be the best in the nation. florida's to for that matter.
 
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Was it not Chavis that said this years defense could be just as good, if not better, than last years? Yes it was, so he needs to be held accountable just like Fulmer was for last year proclaiming we had a shot at winning X, Y, & Z. As far as last nights game goes, some of the blame has to go to Cutcliffe, too. You can't keep a defense on the field for 48 minutes and not expect them to get tired. We were 1 play away from winning a game we had no business even being in. So, calling for Chavis' head is silly, but he must be held accountable just like Randy Sanders was. And Pat Washington. And Jimmy Ray Stevens. Our offensive line couldn't run block against Girl Scout Troop 37. Fulmer needs to get proactive in their run blocking and get his hands dirty.

BTW, has anybody seen or heard from Rob Smith? I think he is driving an 18 wheeler now. We could have used him this year.
 
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champyvol said:
good point, but which D has the better players. i haven't seen GT in the top 10 in recruiting in some time. 435 yards were under there average, imagine what auburn's D must be like. it must be the best in the nation. florida's to for that matter.
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I would say that Georgia Tech has more experienced talent on their defense this season.
 
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champyvol said:
that probably true, but just talent wise tennessee has them beat. GT just gets alot more out of there talent.
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No, you are still not getting it. Game experience counts for a lot. Tennessee might have more talent, GT definitely has more experienced talent.

Also, GT is not holding many teams (1/3) to less points and yards than their season averages. UT has held 6 of their opponents to less than what they average (2/3). So, GT's defense may look better to the average bystander, however, after subjecting their stats to educated scrutiny you will find that they are really nothing special.
 
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therealUT said:
No, you are still not getting it. Game experience counts for a lot. Tennessee might have more talent, GT definitely has more experienced talent.

Also, GT is not holding many teams (1/3) to less points and yards than their season averages. UT has held 6 of their opponents to less than what they average (2/3). So, GT's defense may look better to the average bystander, however, after subjecting their stats to educated scrutiny you will find that they are really nothing special.
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yes that also is alittle misleading though. check out some of the teams tennessee's opponets have played and that will give you a better idea on how good there offense is. also check out what they have done when they played tennessee and played other ranked teams. i'll still say GT gets more out of there talent. either by the scheme's they run or whatever. when you think of great defensive teams, i'm sorry tennessee doesn't come to mind. i think if you ask any true football fan around the country they would say the same thing.
 
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champyvol said:
yes that also is alittle misleading though. check out some of the teams tennessee's opponets have played and that will give you a better idea on how good there offense is. also check out what they have done when they played tennessee and played other ranked teams. i'll still say GT gets more out of there talent. either by the scheme's they run or whatever. when you think of great defensive teams, i'm sorry tennessee doesn't come to mind. i think if you ask any true football fan around the country they would say the same thing.
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How about you check out some of the teams that Tennessee's opponents have played?

Here are a few places to start:
www.secsports.com
NCAA - National Collegiate Athletic Association
 
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yep and that proves my point there are alot of cupcakes on those schedules to rack up 600 or 700 yards of offense. except florida and tennessee's. very impressive schedules there. top 10. the rest not very impressive. besides arkansas and vandy the rest of the teams non conference is a joke. almost like high school teams.
 
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champyvol said:
yep and that proves my point there are alot of cupcakes on those schedules to rack up 600 or 700 yards of offense. except florida and tennessee's. very impressive schedules there. top 10. the rest not very impressive. besides arkansas and vandy the rest of the teams non conference is a joke. almost like high school teams.
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Again, do your own research. When you have finished it, come to me with your findings. Also, keep in mind that ACC OOC schedules are not all that difficult.

Clemson-FAU and Temple
UVA-Wyoming, Western Michigan, and East Carolina
Va. Tech-Northeastern, Cincy, Kent State
UMD-William & Mary, MTSU, FIU
Miami-FAMU and FIU
NCSU-Appalachian State...enough said
UNC-Furman

And on top of all that, each of these teams also has their stats padded by Duke, and GT still could not keep most of them under their season averages. Needless to say, I am less than impressed with Coach Tenudo...
 
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therealUT said:
Again, do your own research. When you have finished it, come to me with your findings. Also, keep in mind that ACC OOC schedules are not all that difficult.

Clemson-FAU and Temple
UVA-Wyoming, Western Michigan, and East Carolina
Va. Tech-Northeastern, Cincy, Kent State
UMD-William & Mary, MTSU, FIU
Miami-FAMU and FIU
NCSU-Appalachian State...enough said
UNC-Furman

And on top of all that, each of these teams also has their stats padded by Duke, and GT still could not keep most of them under their season averages. Needless to say, I am less than impressed with Coach Tenudo...
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GT also played ND and plays Georgia at the end of the season. in my mind that makes up for some of the cream puffs. like tennessee played Cal, that makes up for memphis and marshall. i would say airforce but the D didn't show up for that game either.
 
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champyvol said:
GT also played ND and plays Georgia at the end of the season. in my mind that makes up for some of the cream puffs. like tennessee played Cal, that makes up for memphis and marshall. i would say airforce but the D didn't show up for that game either.
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Interesting reply which was in no way relevant to the topic being debated...
 
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therealUT said:
Interesting reply which was in no way relevant to the topic being debated...
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yes it was, which is chavis is not a great defensive coodinator. in my opinion, i would take GT defensive coordinator, or texas, ohio state, penn.st, wisconsin, floida, LSU, clemson, rutgers, auburn, VT and i'm sure i missed some. there are alot better defensive coordinators out there and if you watch alot of football it is easy to see. they might not have the talent, but some of there play calling is excellent. your opinion is chavis is great. my opinion there are alot better defensive coordinators in college football. we just don't agree and leave it at that.
 
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#200
I would love to have gotten Woddy Widenhoffer (sp?) from Vandy. That guy is a defensive genius, no questions, debates, or anything about it. Hands down over Chavis.
 
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