Joe Lunardi put Kansas ahead of us

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Vols till I fall said:
How in the world does this clown have Kansas over us with their big win tonight?

We beat Kansas head to head, just beat Texas and have one less loss. Also, Kansas went on like a 3 game losing streak
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I dislike Lunardi's smug self as much as anyone, but I don't think this is a completely indefensible position as things stand right now. The fact that the SEC is such dog water this year means we have very little wiggle room, and we lessened it losing to a team like Colorado in Nashville.
 
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Vols till I fall said:
How in the world does this clown have Kansas over us with their big win tonight?

We beat Kansas head to head, just beat Texas and have one less loss. Also, Kansas went on like a 3 game losing streak
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We lost to a bad Colorado team in Nashville and a bad KY team at home. Those are 2 bad losses, particularly considering how down the SEC is this year. Be realistic.
 
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It has a lot less to do with our losses and a lot more to do with Kansas having 8 Q1 wins. A bunch of our Q1 opponents are at the end of the season, so I think we overtake them once we have "enough" Q1 wins.
 
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Can we not do this every day/night for the next 6 weeks?

-Lunardi isn’t very good, if you’re gonna live and die on each bracket update at least follow someone better at their job.

-Kansas is 13-4 in Q1&Q2 combined. Tennessee is 7-3, the loss yo Colorado isn’t what’s hurting us, it’s the lack of Q1&Q2 wins.

-If my math is correct 9/10 of our remaining games are currently Q1 or Q2, starting tonight against Florida. In other words, we have the opportunity to build our resume in the coming weeks, do that and this won’t be an issue.
 
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Maybe he realizes that the selection committee always gives an edge to the blue bloods. He's right about that.
 
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Buzzbait said:
We lost to a bad Colorado team in Nashville and a bad KY team at home. Those are 2 bad losses, particularly considering how down the SEC is this year. Be realistic.
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A loss is a loss. There’s no such thing as a good loss. Plus we beat them head to head & are ranked ahead of them. You be realistic
 
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I don't have an issue with it. Our conference schedule is back loaded, so plenty of chances to up our profile.
 
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Every game in the B12 is almost a Q1 win. Plus they beat Ky at Lex while Ky beat Tenn at Knox. Games in Nov don’t have much weight as the season goes along.
 
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Buzzbait said:
We lost to a bad Colorado team in Nashville and a bad KY team at home. Those are 2 bad losses, particularly considering how down the SEC is this year. Be realistic.
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KY isn’t “bad” by the metrics. They’re on the cusp of being a Q1 team and I’d imagine if they win the next 2 vs UF and Arkansas they jump into that quadrant. We should’ve won but when the season shakes out I think we’ll be looking at a frustrating loss but not a back breaking one.
 
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There are ~150 "bracketologists" that are considered veterans on bracket matrix. In the last 5 years, Lunardi has finished in the top 50 1 time. He was #113 last year, and I don't have any evidence to back this up, but I'm pretty sure he was leaked some info prior to the show (i.e. remember how smug and adamant he was that we were getting a 3 seed even though most had us as a 2? Just seemed a little too sure on that one)

Anyway, if you want a few to follow that are actually good at this...

Bracketometry - only been doing it for 3 years but has finished no worse than #26 and was #4 last year. Has us as a 1 seed in the East, though it doesn't look like he's adjusting yet for conference opponents as he has Missouri as a 9 in our region

Bauertology - similar to above, only 3 years in but consistently near the top. Has us as a 1 seed in the West

D Ratings - 2 top 10 finishes in last 5 years. worst was #41. Has us as a 1 seed, but hasn't updated in a week or so

131 Sports - generally pretty high in the rankings including finishing #1 a few years ago. Has us as a 1 seed as of yesterday
 
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ESPN's Lunardi Projects Tennessee As No. 1 Seed

Joe Lunardi has Tennessee as a 1 seed. Are we being just a little bit sensitive here? Does it really matter if Kansas is a higher #1? Also, Lunardi argued that Tennessee should have been a 2 seed last year, although he wasn't surprised that we received a 3 seed. I don't think he is biased against Tennessee.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Can we not do this every day/night for the next 6 weeks?

-Lunardi isn’t very good, if you’re gonna live and die on each bracket update at least follow someone better at their job.

-Kansas is 13-4 in Q1&Q2 combined. Tennessee is 7-3, the loss yo Colorado isn’t what’s hurting us, it’s the lack of Q1&Q2 wins.

-If my math is correct 9/10 of our remaining games are currently Q1 or Q2, starting tonight against Florida. In other words, we have the opportunity to build our resume in the coming weeks, do that and this won’t be an issue.
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I think this is a false dichotomy. I think the lack of Q1 wins makes it more vital not to lose winnable games, since we already have a black mark with fewer quality wins so we cant also be racking up poor loses. That's what I'm saying by the Colorado loss takes away wiggle room that was already small due to the lack of resume building games available in our SEC schedule so far. Definitely dont think its accurate to say the Colorado lose isn't hurting us, in fact in hurts us more because there hasn't been an overabundance of opportunities to make up for it. I agree though that those opportunities are coming up
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Didn't he pretty much admit this last year when we didn't get a 1 seed?
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Hell .... We didn't even get a 2.

I hope Barnes just rests the starters in the SEC Tournament this time around. The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee does not factor in conference tournament results at all.
 
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Buzzbait said:
We lost to a bad Colorado team in Nashville and a bad KY team at home. Those are 2 bad losses, particularly considering how down the SEC is this year. Be realistic.
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Eye of the beholder, I guess. Presently, those aren't considered bad losses by the metrics, even if they "feel" bad because of public perception.

Kentucky is also not a bad team. They just aren't what people have come to expect of a typical Kentucky team and they've underperformed relative to expectations. They started poorly, but they have made some adjustments and are winning, currently.
 
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Vol49er said:
I think this is a false dichotomy. I think the lack of Q1 wins makes it more vital not to lose winnable games, since we already have a black mark with fewer quality wins so we cant also be racking up poor loses. That's what I'm saying by the Colorado loss takes away wiggle room that was already small due to the lack of resume building games available in our SEC schedule so far. Definitely dont think its accurate to say the Colorado lose isn't hurting us, in fact in hurts us more because there hasn't been an overabundance of opportunities to make up for it. I agree though that those opportunities are coming up
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If you said you could turn a L into a W I’d choose Arizona, another Q1 win would look better than just taking away a Q2 loss imo
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If you said you could turn a L into a W I’d choose Arizona, another Q1 win would look better than just taking away a Q2 loss imo
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I agree with that definitely. But Colorado is pointed out more because thats a game we win going away if we come locked in. Let it get away, where as losing to Arizona on the road might've happened even if we'd played our best game. So if we end up not on the 1 line, and its close, I'm gonna feel frustrated about the loss to the Buffs rather than to Arizona
 
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