JJJ nears top 10 career rebounding...

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Josiah Jordan James is now only 2 rebounds away from tying Vol great Isiah Victor for 10th all time.
All Time Rebounding Leaders:
1.) Gene Tormohlen - 1113
2.) Bernard King - 1004
3.) Dyron Nix - 944
4.) Carl Widseth - 937
5.) Wayne Chism - 930
6.) Reggie Johnson - 920
7.) Vincent Yarbrough - 862
8.) Jarnell Stokes - 836
9.) Rob Jones - 804
10.) Isiah Victor - 799
*Josiah Jordan James - 797
 
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pimo1 said:
JJJ is a definite VFL but, not to be a hater there will be an asterisk involved. All of those guys did this in 3-4 played seasons. JJJ has played 5 seasons. J/S
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He's like the above average mlb guy that played into his 40's and broke a bunch of records the guy that retired at 35 and was an All Star held. Good but not great player that stayed in the rotation for 5 years. Want see that again unless the rules change. His experience is very valuable to this team when he plays with confidence. It's never been the physical part of the game that's held him back.
 
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macrovol said:
Josiah Jordan James is now only 2 rebounds away from tying Vol great Isiah Victor for 10th all time.
All Time Rebounding Leaders:
1.) Gene Tormohlen - 1113
2.) Bernard King - 1004
3.) Dyron Nix - 944
4.) Carl Widseth - 937
5.) Wayne Chism - 930
6.) Reggie Johnson - 920
7.) Vincent Yarbrough - 862
8.) Jarnell Stokes - 836
9.) Rob Jones - 804
10.) Isiah Victor - 799
*Josiah Jordan James - 797
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I was in school when Torohlen was playing. He and Dalen Showalter were really good players back then. Dale was All Conference in his Jr. and Sr. years and lead the SEC in scoring his Senior year.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I was in school when Torohlen was playing. He and Dalen Showalter were really good players back then. Dale was All Conference in his Jr. and Sr. years and lead the SEC in scoring his Senior year.
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Tormohlen was a beast in the late 50s. Howard Bayne was his rebounding clone.
 
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macrovol said:
Josiah Jordan James is now only 2 rebounds away from tying Vol great Isiah Victor for 10th all time.
All Time Rebounding Leaders:
1.) Gene Tormohlen - 1113
2.) Bernard King - 1004
3.) Dyron Nix - 944
4.) Carl Widseth - 937
5.) Wayne Chism - 930
6.) Reggie Johnson - 920
7.) Vincent Yarbrough - 862
8.) Jarnell Stokes - 836
9.) Rob Jones - 804
10.) Isiah Victor - 799
*Josiah Jordan James - 797
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Really good stuff, Macro.
 
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macrovol said:
For those pointing out that JJJ had 5 years, he and Yarbrough are the only ones listed that were not post players.
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Five years is five years. If you think records are sacred then it's worth pointing this out or throwing in the "asterick". He has probably played twice as many games as most of the post players on this list. I would like to see a list that only includes guards/wings on a per game basis. I think JJJ fares very well on that. Probably top 10 and that would be a feather in his cap.
 
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macrovol said:
For those pointing out that JJJ had 5 years, he and Yarbrough are the only ones listed that were not post players.
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JJJ also missed alot of time due to injury before this season. He was criticized a lot for it on here, so I’m surprised people forgot. I’d be curious to see how many rebounds per game for each player. I think JJJ is around 6 per game for his career which is impressive for his position and with nagging injuries. Chism, for example, played more games than JJJ has played(Chism played 142 and JJJ played 137 so far) averaged almost the same amount of rebounds per game than JJJ, and was a post player with about 3 inches on JJJ, so I think the “took him 5 years” dig is dumb.

Also, Yarbrough played 127 games here, 9 fewer than JJJ so far. Pretty impressive.
 
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macrovol said:
Josiah Jordan James is now only 2 rebounds away from tying Vol great Isiah Victor for 10th all time.
All Time Rebounding Leaders:
1.) Gene Tormohlen - 1113
2.) Bernard King - 1004
3.) Dyron Nix - 944
4.) Carl Widseth - 937
5.) Wayne Chism - 930
6.) Reggie Johnson - 920
7.) Vincent Yarbrough - 862
8.) Jarnell Stokes - 836
9.) Rob Jones - 804
10.) Isiah Victor - 799
*Josiah Jordan James - 797
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I remember listening to Tormohlen games on KOX as a kid. Dad had the pleasure of watching Widseth in what is now the Alumni Memorial Building
 
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ColinS said:
He's like the above average mlb guy that played into his 40's and broke a bunch of records the guy that retired at 35 and was an All Star held. Good but not great player that stayed in the rotation for 5 years. Want see that again unless the rules change. His experience is very valuable to this team when he plays with confidence. It's never been the physical part of the game that's held him back.
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I think JJJ plays a role most can't appreciate. He is a glue guy. Crucial on the floor but his impact is often not obvious in the box score. If this team goes far in the tourney he deserves as much credit as anyone because he is the core of the culture and honestly the defense.
 
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ColinS said:
Five years is five years. If you think records are sacred then it's worth pointing this out or throwing in the "asterick". He has probably played twice as many games as most of the post players on this list. I would like to see a list that only includes guards/wings on a per game basis. I think JJJ fares very well on that. Probably top 10 and that would be a feather in his cap.
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Is asterick an asterisk about a man from Nantucket?
 
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pimo1 said:
I think JJJ plays a role most can't appreciate. He is a glue guy. Crucial on the floor but his impact is often not obvious in the box score. If this team goes far in the tourney he deserves as much credit as anyone because he is the core of the culture and honestly the defense.
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Exactly. I challenge people to think about it this way.

How often do you notice JJJ getting beat on defense?
 
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ColinS said:
Five years is five years. If you think records are sacred then it's worth pointing this out or throwing in the "asterick". He has probably played twice as many games as most of the post players on this list. I would like to see a list that only includes guards/wings on a per game basis. I think JJJ fares very well on that. Probably top 10 and that would be a feather in his cap.
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JJJ played over 60 fewer games than Chism. Has played 11 more than Victor. How does getting one more year give him the chance to play twice as many games as 3-4 year guys? Stokes played only 84 games so that’s the most impressive one on the list imo, in terms of a short career here. JJJ being a 5 year guy hasn’t even played twice as many games as a 2.5 year guy. People forget how injuries affected him much if his career before this year. I’ve been looking at minutes per game, games played, rebounds per game for people on the list, and JJJ fares well especially for his position. No “but he’s a 5th year guy” qualifiers are necessary and it’s just a dumb narrative, if you’re into facts and actual data.
 
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