Jimmy cheek email concerning UT internal affairs

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Team stream listed 6 football players but didn't name one who that that be. Williams aj Riyadh marlin and lane
 
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alexmanu said:
The college rules on consent and their adjudication of alleged sexual offences are balanced against the accused to the point that colleges - such as UCSD - are now being found guilty of a lack of due process.

Ultimately, I don't think it's the job of any college to adjudicate on such alleged offences, it's the job of the real authorities. After a trial in a real court, and a verdict, a college can make a determination on the future of a student on campus. They shouldn't be deciding anything on their own before then...
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I agree.... Now if the authorities are telling the University facts they have learned and those facts are enough for the University to respond , that is one thing.
 
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vol445 said:
No it listed 6 football player
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They were giving examples of 6 players thay were investigated in the past. The federal investigation isn't about those players necessarily. There were 135 other cases of alledged sexual assault.
 
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volnpowell said:
I agree.... Now if the authorities are telling the University facts they have learned and those facts are enough for the University to respond , that is one thing.
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The University has no business acting as judge and jury on sexual assault cases.
 
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Feds launch sexual violence investigation at UT

SIAP tried searching the link nothing came up so I assume nobody has yet...

I'm trying to figure out if this article has anything important we should keep an eye out for or if it is just another Tennessean "let's see how we can make Tennessee look bad" article


Edit - Already posted sorry guys lol. At least it brought me here. So we are thinking no big deal?
 
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G8R8U2 said:
According to the article, there are 135 cases at 121 schools; but the 6 mentioned at UT are all football players.
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Not a conspiracy theorist at all...but something just seems absolutely strange about what's been going on lately. Just too many...
 
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Posted about this earlier and was deemed irrelevant I guess, the email sent to students says nothing about the athletics department however.
 
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GAVol said:
Have the rules of consent really changed or is the crime just more likely to be reported than it was in the past?
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I believe it is that victims are much more likely to report attacks than in the past. I don't think rape happens more frequently than it used to happen. I feel like victims more fully understand what it means when things happened to them that were out of their control. Victims who, in the past, blamed themselves have been replaced across college campuses with a younger generation that has been better informed of what constitutes assault and rape. On top of that, victims feel like their case is more likely to be believed and treated as the serious crime that it is, unlike in the past.

The culture surrounding the treatment of rape victims and what constitutes rape has grown, therefore it seems like it has become a bigger problem. I think the problem has been there all along. Now, though, students are more aware of the difference between bad choices and rape. In a weird way, the more assaults and rapes that are being reported could actually be a good sign that the atrocious issue of sexual assaults and rapes on college campuses is coming into focus. The first thing you have to do to make a change is to identify that a problem really is as large as it is.
 
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I would have been shocked to have read the link and not seen Anita Wadhwani's name either quoted or in some way out in front of it. We do have two former players that are about to stand trial for rape and while that's very bad, there is no evidence to suggest that rape is going unpunished among our athletes or that there is a permissive culture of sexual assault on our campus. Anita Wadhwani will do her muckraking but it's entirely possible that the other players that have been accused but never charged (most notably Pearson) did not actually commit an assault. The first time I read a report that doesn't involve her or include her name is when I will actually worry about this. She has an agenda against our school and is pushing it - very hard.
 
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Well, to be honest when I got that generic email from the chancellor I thought it was just standard practice. We've been getting a lot of those emails lately.
 
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Is she/whoever is behind this implying that because of a few possible bad choices (not even proven yet) by a handful of players, that our whole team and athletic institution is involved or at least ok with rape/sexual assault? If so, that's downright idiotic. It's a terrible thing, and anyone found guilty of it should be kicked off immediately, but to generalize an entire program because of 2 or 3 incidents is unspeakably ignorant.
 
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What bothers me is the idea that rape exists within a football program. It has not been tolerated and discipline has been swift. That said, it is even more troubling that a slime slinging report is based on 6 recent "cases" which have led to exactly zero convictions and exactly zero trials.

From what I read, there are some issues that must be addressed. One of those issues is understanding that hurt feelings do not equal rape. Rape is a horrible crime and is not sexual. It is a crime of violence that uses sex as a weapon. Being disappointed that he doesn't actually love you is a consequence of poor choice, not the result of rape.
 
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Where has the connection been made to the athletic program? While those are the ones that have made the headlines I'm sure they are not the only ones that have occurred at UT.
 
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utvols88 said:
Lol k. Nothing will come of this. UT hasn't impeded or played an individual that had an active investigation. Garbage complaint.
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How do you know that this has anything to do with a student athlete, or even a student for that matter? This situation applies to all students faculty and staff. For all you know this was a complaint by a male student against a female that the university did not handle to his satisfaction. It may or may not have something to do with sports, but don't be so quick as to dismiss it as a garbage complaint.
 
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zqvol said:
How do you know that this has anything to do with a student athlete, or even a student for that matter? This situation applies to all students faculty and staff. For all you know this was a complaint by a male student against a female that the university did not handle to his satisfaction. It may or may not have something to do with sports, but don't be so quick as to dismiss it as a garbage complaint.
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Because the examples in the report are 6 cases about football players. There are zero mention of outside cases. It's garbage
 
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When is the AJ case going to happen.. That sure is taking a long time, how do you have a court date when your not arrested?
 
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