Jimmie Kimmel Show gone !

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Sandman 423 said:
Where were all these Volnation free speech warriors during the time when the Biden truth ministry was twisting, YouTube, Twitter, etc.’s arms to demonetize and sensor free speech during Covid?

Trump needs to shut his pie hole, but
Kimmel was told to apologize by his boss and said No. Last I checked insubordination was grounds for termination.
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Actually, it is not Trump who needs to shut his pie hole. Brendan Carr needs to stop directing coercive threats to broadcasters. They are wildly inappropriate in his capacity as FCC Chairman.

As for everything else you have said ..... it's just more deflection in this never-ending cycle of what-about-ism that shapes political discourse these days. "Sure, my guy did wrong, but ...... " is not a defense and should not be presented as one.

And yes, I know that WE are all guilty of it.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Where were all these Volnation free speech warriors during the time when the Biden truth ministry was twisting, YouTube, Twitter, etc.’s arms to demonetize and sensor free speech during Covid?

Trump needs to shut his pie hole, but
Kimmel was told to apologize by his boss and said No. Last I checked insubordination was grounds for termination.
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And by the way, there are some recent cases of litigants winning wrongful termination law suits against former employers, who fired them for insubordination, simply because they refused to comply with a demand for an apology.

If the former employee can prove that they weren't required by company policy to issue an apology for a mistake, then typically, that former employee has a very good chance of winning their case.

Now, having said that .... the employer could have always fired the former employee for the mistake itself without any problem, but when you fire someone for insubordination, things can get dicey.
 
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Weezer said:
Has the FCC even said what broadcasting rules were allegedly broken?
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Carr was not specific about what FCC rule or policy had been violated. He spoke only in generalities when he was being critical of Jimmy Kimmel's conduct .... and threatening ABC.
 
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volfanhill said:
Where is the info saying they met in the morning? Sorry if I missed it
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It's in the link hog posted. It was a report about the ABC affiliates. It was dated 9/17. Sinclair affiliates discussed it 'earlier that day' with ABC.
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Majors said:
You could have jumped and started those threads yourself. Kirk was assassinated in front of a live audience and it was played out for the world to see instantly.

Blowing up drug cartel boats doesn’t move the sympathy needle when the end result for them is killing Americans.
Love the new rage for 1A by the left when they were silent in the 2020 election.
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Nobody could be certain those were drug cartel boats.

Seems Obama ordering a drone attack on a confirmed terrorist moved the sympathy needle ast the recliner for magas.
 
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volfanhill said:
If I'm wrong I apologize. But I'm pretty sure you and I had a back and forth a long time ago where you implied that hate speech, slurs for example, should not be protected
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Hate speech,if it is the truth, shouldn't be a reason for termination.

That said if my employee said my wife is fat and ugly (she's not) I would find a reason to terminate said employees tenure.

Charlie Kirk was not a nice guy. He was indeed a hate speech pro. I in no way condone his murder, but I also don't support idolizing the man.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
No, Disney did that ALL on their own. Which to me makes it even WORSE.
At least with Kimmel they had an excuse. With Carano it was pure hatred and vitriol against her person for DARING to be mildly conservative.
And just wondering, how many of these Hollywood idiots even raised a finger to defend Gina?
How many conservatives did pre Elon Twitter ban at the urging of the Biden administration? Especially over COVID or vaccines?
What did Biden and company claim again? Oh yeah; that people were spreading “misinformation”. Hey wait; isn’t that what Jimmy Kimmel just did? Blatantly lie to a national audience?
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What lie did Jimmy Kimmel tell?
 
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USA Today:

The FCC could potentially revoke broadcast licenses granted to network stations. Trump told reporters the FCC should consider the content of what is broadcast when considering licenses.

"When you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit Trump. It’s all they do," Trump said. "They’re licensed. They’re not allowed to do that.". 😆

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BowlBrother85 said:
Actually, it is not Trump who needs to shut his pie hole. Brendan Carr needs to stop directing coercive threats to broadcasters. They are wildly inappropriate in his capacity as FCC Chairman.

As for everything else you have said ..... it's just more deflection in this never-ending cycle of what-about-ism that shapes political discourse these days. "Sure, my guy did wrong, but ...... " is not a defense and should not be presented as one.

And yes, I know that WE are all guilty of it.
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Yeah, No. Trump needs to shut his pie hole and do presidential stuff. The FCC Chairman needs to go because he isn't working in the be interest of the entire country, and I haven't defended any of what is going on with the FCC, so there is no deflection or whataboutism. Perhaps I could have said "welcome to the party" instead of taking an easy dig, but I'm a little bit of an ass.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He said that Kirk was killed by a MAGA person which was clearly untrue, then his bosses asked him to retract the lie and he said "no I am going to say worse on tonight's show"
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This what he said, verbatim: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” He did not explicitly say Robinson was MAGA. Folks, we are through the looking glass now.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Nobody could be certain those were drug cartel boats.

Seems Obama ordering a drone attack on a confirmed terrorist moved the sympathy needle ast the recliner for magas.
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Again, we don’t see crying families about how Trump blow up a boat of academic schloars.

Trump was right again. Sorry for your loss of drugs on American streets.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
This what he said, verbatim: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” He did not explicitly say Robinson was MAGA. Folks, we are through the looking glass now.
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Except it was clear by then that the killer was NOT "one of them" so he was lying and knew it....then he was going to triple down on the lie when his bosses told him to retract
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
This what he said, verbatim: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” He did not explicitly say Robinson was MAGA. Folks, we are through the looking glass now.
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Jimmy Kimmel didn't articulate it very well, but he was trying to say that Trump supporters were pinning as many left-wing and anti-Trump labels on Tyler Robinson as they possibly could (that is where the "anything other than one of them" remark came from), as a means of exploiting his murder for political gain. It was a tasteless thing to say, and very inappropriate to the moment, but you are right. Jimmy Kimmel did not say that Tyler Robinson was a "MAGA" member.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Except it was clear by then that the killer was NOT "one of them" so he was lying and knew it....then he was going to triple down on the lie when his bosses told him to retract
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Jimmy Kimmel didn't say he was one of them. In not as many words, he said that MAGA members were trying to place Tyler Robinson in every negative affiliation they could .... except their own.

I understand the confusion. He didn't articulate himself well at all. Also, I'm not condoning what he said. It was in poor taste and inappropriate, while the country is so bitterly divided.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Actually, it is not Trump who needs to shut his pie hole. Brendan Carr needs to stop directing coercive threats to broadcasters. They are wildly inappropriate in his capacity as FCC Chairman.

As for everything else you have said ..... it's just more deflection in this never-ending cycle of what-about-ism that shapes political discourse these days. "Sure, my guy did wrong, but ...... " is not a defense and should not be presented as one.

And yes, I know that WE are all guilty of it.
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It's not wildly inappropriate for the POTUS to keep saying, "Maybe we should do _________ to_________. You know, they've been very unfair/critical/mean/etc to me. I guess we'll have to see."?

Here's an idea. Shut up. Allow people to be critical/unfair/etc unless they break the law. Try acting like you're not sawft. Try acting like you understand this isn't N Korea. I mean, I'm sure he realizes that it's not N Korea, but the hyperbolic BS from the POTUS needs to stop. There is a wildly powerful backlash against the liberals right now. Don't abuse it. And stop saying **** that makes you sound like the red-tinted version of those liberals.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Yeah, No. Trump needs to shut his pie hole and do presidential stuff. The FCC Chairman needs to go because he isn't working in the be interest of the entire country, and I haven't defended any of what is going on with the FCC, so there is no deflection or whataboutism. Perhaps I could have said "welcome to the party" instead of taking an easy dig, but I'm a little bit of an ass.
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Don't sell yourself short, my friend. You are a huge ass.😉
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
And by the way, there are some recent cases of litigants winning wrongful termination law suits against former employers, who fired them for insubordination, simply because they refused to comply with a demand for an apology.

If the former employee can prove that they weren't required by company policy to issue an apology for a mistake, then typically, that former employee has a very good chance of winning their case.

Now, having said that .... the employer could have always fired the former employee for the mistake itself without any problem, but when you fire someone for insubordination, things can get dicey.
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From what I've read, they asked for an apology, and he not only refused to apologize, but he also wrote a MORE scathing ("hot") monologue for that night. They fired him.

I'm not sure that's (just) a firing for insubordination. If that's the case, they can claim that they suspended (which seems to be the case) him before he could do something more damaging to the company as part of the act of insubordination.
 
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