Jimmie Kimmel Show gone !

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OHvol40 said:
The climate which led to Reagan’s election was very downtrodden, oil crisis, hyperinflation, crack epidemic, terrible violence in cities, etc. Circumstances should not be an excuse for moral ambiguity.
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I get that but I was talking more about the climate towards immigration. We've had a flood of immigrants we can't employ, can't house, can't support without further burdening taxpayers.

Surely you can see the difference, we had low paying jobs available, we had housing available. All those things are absent right now. Yes, the message a president sends is going to sound different then vs now.

And for the record I'm not defending Trump, I think he awful. Talking more about Reagan's comments and how'd they be received by the American people then vs now.
 
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His statements is a direct FCC violation and could cause affiliates to lose their license...that's why he was fired. He is the first domino. I suspect we will see more FCC crackdown on affiliate of CNN and Fox for knowingly spewing lies.
 
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KB5252 said:
I get that but I was taking more about the climate towards immigration. We've had a flood of immigrants we can't employee, can't house, can't support without further burdening taxpayers.

Surely you can see the difference, we had low paying jobs available, we had housing available. All those things are absent right now. Yes, the message a president sends is going to sound different then vs now.

And for the record I'm not defending Trump, I think he awful. Talking more about Reagan's comments and how'd they be received by the American people then vs now.
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Unemployment is not crazy high, and hasn’t been sans COVID shutdowns. There is a lot of current scapegoating of immigrants as well as others. As a matter of fact, now the scapegoating is extending to political opponents. This type of rhetoric is not healthy or productive. Leaders used to know this and be hyper-aware of the harm in this post-WWII. Both sides of the aisle took great care to be vigilant in this regard (with some notable exceptions, like McCarthyism). Now, that caretaking has taken a back seat to win-at-all-cost politics.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Unemployment is not crazy high, and hasn’t been sans COVID shutdowns. There is a lot of current scapegoating of immigrants as well as others. As a matter of fact, now the scapegoating is extending to political opponents. This type of rhetoric is not healthy or productive. Leaders used to know this and be hyper-aware of the harm in this post-WWII. Both sides of the aisle took great care to be vigilant in this regard (with some notable exceptions, like McCarthyism). Now, that caretaking has taken a back seat to win-at-all-cost politics.
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There many who simply aren't looking for jobs anymore. I'm not sure the exact number but since COVID there are jobs that simply went away and haven't come back. Other jobs have been created though. But I've always felt there was something funky with the jobs and unemployment numbers, now and under Biden.

I don't disagree about the rhetoric and scapegoating. But the issue is when things are bad, as they are now and everyone's posting jobs but nobody can figure out who's actually getting interviews. My wife and I both have that problem, we looked back and she's applied for over 300 jobs similar to the one she holds now.......... And not a single interview in 3 years.

It's win at all cost policy because no one can stand on real issues anymore.

The right isn't physically conservative and hasn't been able to steer a prosperous economy without infusion massive amounts of money into the economy to overcome the hemorrhaging.

The left can no longer be everything to everyone and deliver enough. They've abandoned the center.

All either side does is trade barbs and call each other names. This began during the Trump campaign with his barbs, and then presidency with "Deplorables" directed at his supporters......... It has been downhill from there.
 
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KB5252 said:
There many who simply aren't looking for jobs anymore. I'm not sure the exact number but since COVID there are jobs that simply went away and haven't come back. Other jobs have been created though. But I've always felt there was something funky with the jobs and unemployment numbers, now and under Biden.

I don't disagree about the rhetoric and scapegoating. But the issue is when things are bad, as they are now and everyone's posting jobs but nobody can figure out who's actually getting interviews. My wife and I both have that problem, we looked back and she's applied for over 300 jobs similar to the one she holds now.......... And not a single interview in 3 years.

It's win at all cost policy because no one can stand on real issues anymore.

The right isn't physically conservative and hasn't been able to steer a prosperous economy without infusion massive amounts of money into the economy to overcome the hemorrhaging.

The left can no longer be everything to everyone and deliver enough. They've abandoned the center.

All either side does is trade barbs and call each other names. This began during the Trump campaign with his barbs, and then presidency with "Deplorables" directed at his supporters......... It has been downhill from there.
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it began long before Trump. ever since I have paid attention both sides have traded barbs and called each other names. otherwise spot on.

Obama was a foreign communist
W Bush was also a Hitler.
if I was older I am sure there is more.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's what you are taking objection with? The Daily Beast's choice of words?

The President of the United States just successfully cancelled a late night talk show over a joke he didn't like. LOL.

These are strange times we are in. 🤪
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Really?
 
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Conservative here, if this is government driven and not just network driven, it does make me a little weary. I haven't heard his comments, however. I tend to be a fan of free speech in the right place, even if distasteful (a late show should have flexibility; I would understand limiting cussing on a children's show at 7 am for example).
 
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Carson, Leno, and early days of Letterman were the bench,ark of what late night was supposed to be. Letterman lost his way toward and since his retirement and got the infection. The current late night formats are flash pans, and the fire is fading for sometime now.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Conservative here, if this is government driven and not just network driven, it does make me a little weary. I haven't heard his comments, however. I tend to be a fan of free speech in the right place, even if distasteful (a late show should have flexibility; I would understand limiting cussing on a children's show at 7 am for example).
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The FCC chairman was without question out of line in his comments. He should have never said what he did but I don't think that played into the decision to suspend/cancel Kimmel. The FCC would have lost had they tried to revoke individual stations broadcast licenses (the networks don't hold licenses).
 
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KB5252 said:
There many who simply aren't looking for jobs anymore. I'm not sure the exact number but since COVID there are jobs that simply went away and haven't come back. Other jobs have been created though. But I've always felt there was something funky with the jobs and unemployment numbers, now and under Biden.

I don't disagree about the rhetoric and scapegoating. But the issue is when things are bad, as they are now and everyone's posting jobs but nobody can figure out who's actually getting interviews. My wife and I both have that problem, we looked back and she's applied for over 300 jobs similar to the one she holds now.......... And not a single interview in 3 years.

It's win at all cost policy because no one can stand on real issues anymore.

The right isn't physically conservative and hasn't been able to steer a prosperous economy without infusion massive amounts of money into the economy to overcome the hemorrhaging.

The left can no longer be everything to everyone and deliver enough. They've abandoned the center.

All either side does is trade barbs and call each other names. This began during the Trump campaign with his barbs, and then presidency with "Deplorables" directed at his supporters......... It has been downhill from there.
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It really started in W Bush term 2. Trump just raised it further up but the left-r8de divide existed pre-Trump. Republicans were called Fascist and Racists, etc. During Bush era as well.
 
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hog88 said:
The FCC chairman was without question out of line in his comments. He should have never said what he did but I don't think that played into the decision to suspend/cancel Kimmel. The FCC would have lost had they tried to revoke individual stations broadcast licenses (the networks don't hold licenses).
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after the Nexstar merger info came to light I certainly think Nexstar was trying to curry favor with the FCC and Trump so that comes into play.

strangely the merger request is BIG ask in relaxing the ownership consolidation rule from 39% to 80% - I doubt the prior FCC would have gone along with that and this one probably shouldn't either.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I just don't get it. The right jokes about murdering people all the time, as recent as like yesterday talking about blowing up the boats. When Paul Pelosi was nearly murdered the right turned it into a huge joke and made gay jokes about it. The Fox News host said we should just flat out kill all the homeless people last week and STILL HAS A JOB. Why are we treating Kirk like he was some war hero patriot? No one said a word about the school shooting that happened the day Kirk was shot. Don't see any thread about the black kid they found hanging from a tree in Mississippi a few days ago.


The first amendment is crumbling. Free Press is dead. It's turning into bend the knee or get cancelled. Never though I'd say it but Tucker is right.

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I think what's happening at the moment is putting on the brakes and quelling violence inducing rhetoric that has overflowed from the left and its politicans for too long. Countless examples of video footage encouraging or insinuating violence toward opposers. There's only one way to shut it down and change gears. It won't be popular. In some instances borderline unconstitutional. A few changes in key words and phrases in all this anti Kirk rhetoric, and you could only accuse people of being insensitive garbage.

As for the jokes about the boats, they are open season. Those are not American citizens or figures. They're invaders bringing in drugs. They are free game.

Not sure what was in Kilmeads head that morning. That was out of character for him.

Jumping to conclusions on the hanging is irresponsible, and thus a VN thread on it would end up totally irresponsible. He was a black kid, on a black university campus, with no evidence of yet that supports foul play. Autopsy results have yet to be released. Any report linking that to the good ole days is totally irresponsible. "At this current time, we are conducting a thorough death investigation. Based on the preliminary examination, we can confirm that the deceased did not suffer any lacerations, contusions, compound fractures, broken bones, or injuries consistent with an assault. At this time, there is no evidence to suggest the individual was physically attacked before his death," reads a statement from the coroner's office. The other hanging victim in Vicksburg was a homeless white male, so he will be of no interest to any political platform junkie.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I just don't get it. The right jokes about murdering people all the time, as recent as like yesterday talking about blowing up the boats. When Paul Pelosi was nearly murdered the right turned it into a huge joke and made gay jokes about it. The Fox News host said we should just flat out kill all the homeless people last week and STILL HAS A JOB. Why are we treating Kirk like he was some war hero patriot? No one said a word about the school shooting that happened the day Kirk was shot. Don't see any thread about the black kid they found hanging from a tree in Mississippi a few days ago.


The first amendment is crumbling. Free Press is dead. It's turning into bend the knee or get cancelled. Never though I'd say it but Tucker is right.

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I believe I read somewhere else there were different standards for network and cable/streaming. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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KB5252 said:
There many who simply aren't looking for jobs anymore. I'm not sure the exact number but since COVID there are jobs that simply went away and haven't come back. Other jobs have been created though. But I've always felt there was something funky with the jobs and unemployment numbers, now and under Biden.

I don't disagree about the rhetoric and scapegoating. But the issue is when things are bad, as they are now and everyone's posting jobs but nobody can figure out who's actually getting interviews. My wife and I both have that problem, we looked back and she's applied for over 300 jobs similar to the one she holds now.......... And not a single interview in 3 years.

It's win at all cost policy because no one can stand on real issues anymore.

The right isn't physically conservative and hasn't been able to steer a prosperous economy without infusion massive amounts of money into the economy to overcome the hemorrhaging.

The left can no longer be everything to everyone and deliver enough. They've abandoned the center.

All either side does is trade barbs and call each other names. This began during the Trump campaign with his barbs, and then presidency with "Deplorables" directed at his supporters......... It has been downhill from there.
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You are not an outlier case on this topic. I'm convinced these are bot created postings to inflate job availability. I'm gainfully and steadily employed, but have looked to move on for over 5 years now. I've had 1 or 2 interviews, and tons of silence, and a few rejection emails.

I don't recall ever voting for him, and in the years following Clinton, I think we really found out who he was, but he left the only budget surplus we've had in my memory before or since him. 8 years of Little Bush and our modern day Viet Nam wrecked that, so no one can truly argue their party is fiscally conservative more than the other. I think maybe the libs are quite a bit worse, but neither are responsible. I think there are some in the GOP that want us to be but they don't have the clout to push that direction.
 
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volinbham said:
it was cancel culture as are so many other examples - the affiliates saw that the die was cast and their viewers would going to leave; wasn't worse saving a low performing show to lose a chunk of viewers for all their other shows.

it's the same story whether it's lefty or righty viewers leaving.
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Agreed. Tribalism is as strong as ever. Both sides here have misbehavior and are more interested is attacking the other side then fixing their own house.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Conservative here, if this is government driven and not just network driven, it does make me a little weary. I haven't heard his comments, however. I tend to be a fan of free speech in the right place, even if distasteful (a late show should have flexibility; I would understand limiting cussing on a children's show at 7 am for example).
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I totally absolutely agree. The government absolutely should never be allowed to dictate what our free speech is but company or a business owner should have every right to fire an employee for something they say. The last thing we need is to allow this to morph into jail time for a post that is deemed hateful. I will always defend Free Speech even if it's speech that I don't like..... the last thing Charlie would have wanted is for his death to be used to muzzle free speech.
 
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