JH can't evaluate QB talent?

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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

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Me thinks me smells some Troll stink .
 
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I am so glad that the name Ba*!3Y was only mentioned once, and it was when the whole QB room was listed out. Thank you OP and posters for not feeding that particular narrative.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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The problem is that this is complete conjecture on your part. You don't have all the facts and you make some assumptions that you cannot support. I don't think anyone on this Board or any reasonable fan wants our coaching staff to "rewire" how they evaluate quarterbacks to resemble something you would prefer. I doubt you have ever played football, I further doubt that you coached football and I would venture to guess you never did it quite at the level of this coaching staff.

This is what you should write instead...... "Man that Heupel and his coaching staff is far better prepared than any other coaching staff that we have had in recent memory. I trust him because he knows what he is doing and I sure don't"

I bet you actual might got a few likes for that.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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This post is from a rival troll trying to sow dissension amongst the fanbase. Pay no attention.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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Good lord
 
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sjt18 said:
But it wasn't measurables that got him the starting job. He outplayed the others in August.
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I imagine it is those same measurables that got JG the staring job at Washington State - then the 3 interceptions and the pick 6 two weeks ago -
finally trumped his measurables.

Peyton Manning probably didn't have great measurables - and Milton vs Manning as athletes and appearance / arm strength.
 
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What kind of person goes to the trouble of starting an account to make a post like this? How pathetic and sad is your life if this is all you have to do?

Get a job, volunteer at a charity, do some good in the world, obviously you have too much time on your hands if you’re taking time to troll like this.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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Delete your account. Seriously, you should delete your account. Also, mods, we need to go back to x amount of posts before thread starting. I paid my dues, make these young guns do the same!
 
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sjt18 said:
Milton earned it in practice. That was what the coaches discerned... but it was also what those allowed to see practice said. In fact, they not only said Milton won the job but that he won it by a wide margin. He was hitting the throws he's missed in games.

Heupel from the start said he had confidence in all three.

It takes a LOT of coaching courage to make a decision to move on from a guy who has performed in practice. Neither Jones or Pruitt showed that courage or intelligence.

So he took a risk on a freakish physical talent that seemed to be working out in August practice... and that means he doesn't know what a QB looks like?

I seldom make ironclad predictions but will make one here:

NO. Not every QB he recruits will be great or become a starter.... just like any other coach.

Do you understand why he wanted 5 guys in his QB room? At one point he very well could have had Maurer (who still shouldn't have left), Salter, Bailey, Milton, and Hooker. Because unlike the last two incompetents he understands that competition brings out the best in any guy you want as your QB AND that evaluations no matter how good or careful you are... are never 100%.

Apparently he developed. They invested extra time and he looked like a world beater in practice.

It should be concerning to you that you don't get it better than you do. Milton won the job in August. It was live competition that exposed him. By almost every insider account... Hooker had a relatively poor August camp. But he has stepped up when the opportunity came. This isn't a perfect science. Coaches have to evaluate guys as best they can whether as recruits or in practice then make decisions. It is to CJH's GREAT CREDIT that he was willing to change course when it became necessary. UT's last two coaches were fired in large measure because they wouldn't change QB's or much of anything else. Their egos got in the way too much.
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This again. Lol.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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That is an assumption that neither you or I could accurately make. Hooker looked a bit timid when he hit the &Imelda for the first time. I think he is NOW the first choice and JH now fells the same way. However, we will see what happens in the off season and when our QB recruit hits the field in the Spring and Summer/Fall workouts.
 
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ptcarter said:
I know I'll get bashed for this, but I sometimes listen to Ainge. He attended practices during fall camp and his take was that Milton separated himself as front runner. Yep Ainge.. take with a grain of salt, but I don't think he's wrong. Hooker looks like he's settled in. CJH figured it out. I wouldn't worry about it at this stage. CJH was like the constipated mathematician. He worked it out with a pencil!
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As been talked about before, “our previous QB“ was supposedly the best practice QB on the team but not in the game.
Seems to me Milton is the same type player.
So appreciate that JH was not bull headed like “our previous coach“ was to keep playing him.
 
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Carp said:
Literally everyone who had access to fall practice agreed that Milton looked the best out of anyone, and it wasn't particularly close.
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It’s actually very simple. Milton was the better QB in preseason practice. So Heupel started him. As he should have. But when the games started, Milton wasn’t as good as Hooker. So now Heupel is starting Hooker. As he should.

What would the original poster have Heupel do? Start a guy who wasn’t the best player in preseason? That’s a great way to lose a team. But that’s why Heupel is the coach and the OP posting on a message board.
 
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Fullfillmer said:
I imagine it is those same measurables that got JG the staring job at Washington State - then the 3 interceptions and the pick 6 two weeks ago -
finally trumped his measurables.

Peyton Manning probably didn't have great measurables - and Milton vs Manning as athletes and appearance / arm strength.
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I'm not arguing that Milton should still be starting. Just that the choice to start him was based on the best available information at the time. The idea that this proves Heupel doesn't know how to evaluate QB's is stupid.
 
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Poor Volunteer 16, took him almost a month to even post first message, then before even posting a message he posts a thread!
This VolNation shows no mercy…..lol
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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You can never tell until they play in games. Some players are great in practice but can't perform at the same level once in the spotlight.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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Well he did coach 2 heisman winners didn’t he? Drew Lock had his best year under him at Missouri.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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To me it is concerning that with his track record Vols are certain they are better at choosing who should be the qb

Of course we gotta find the gray in any silver lining


Right?
 
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OP Milton was better in practice. JH only had a short time to evaluate what he saw in practice. Milton was not here for Spring ball. Trust me, CJH may not know how to lay bricks, but he knows QBs. You may want to just be quiet and let him coach. JMHO When you say he can't evaluate QBs you remove all doubt about your knowledge of the position.
 
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Volunteer16 said:
He was so in love with Milton and now he has finally admitted HH (who we was lucky to inherit) is better.
Down the road, will future QB recruits prove to be fools gold for him as well?
I am hoping her learns to rewire how he evaluated QB's and really go after the best talent for his system.
Or is it perhaps that JM just didn't have enough time to develop in the system?
Either way, it is concerning that JH chose him to start the season when he clearly wasn't as ready as Hendon.

GO VOLS!
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He very well may have been just as ready as Hooker the first couple of weeks. There were more than a few players that did not play as well the first couple of games as they did last week.

I am glad we have both to choose from.
 
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